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I met MAF a bunch of times both in Pittsburgh and Wilkes-Barre and he could not have been nicer to fans. He was undeservedly poo poo on for years and I hope he understands what a key part he played in these two cups, and wish him the best of luck in his future endeavors.
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# ? Jun 12, 2017 05:48 |
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# ? Jun 10, 2024 05:26 |
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graph posted:godspeed MAF. thanks for everything, pittsburgh will always love you unless fleury somehow ends up in philadelphia or something whatever team he goes to is automatically my second team. hopefully a new fanbase can learn to love his funny antics and occasionally heart attack inducing style of play
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# ? Jun 12, 2017 05:50 |
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I think a lot of vets in MAF's position could have and would have made a HUGE shitstorm about being benched for a rookie, especially with a NMC to back it up. MAF being outwardly super cool and supportive of the team while sitting on the bench for literally the first time in his entire life, even though inwardly he must have been loving seething about it, was a big contributing factor to the Penguins winning back-to-back Cups imo. I think he still has a couple more good years left and I hope he gets to go somewhere that he can start more playoff games.
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# ? Jun 12, 2017 05:51 |
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ElwoodCuse posted:I met MAF a bunch of times both in Pittsburgh and Wilkes-Barre and he could not have been nicer to fans. He was undeservedly poo poo on for years and I hope he understands what a key part he played in these two cups, and wish him the best of luck in his future endeavors. I don't know about undeserved. He's a genuinely super nice guy and that's great and all but he was also *the* reason for like four seasons in a row that they blew up spectacularly in the playoffs. But he got them two cups in the end and played a much smaller part in last year's so you know I'm totally okay with all the Maf gifs at this point and hope he goes and does well for Vegas or whoever.
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# ? Jun 12, 2017 05:52 |
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If they fired Bylsma after 2012 like they should have this is their 6th (at least) cup
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Ginette Reno posted:I don't know about undeserved. He's a genuinely super nice guy and that's great and all but he was also *the* reason for like four seasons in a row that they blew up spectacularly in the playoffs. This is true but also kinda unfair to MAF because those Bylsma teams were REALLY bad in their own end, especially when engaged in the "gently caress playing hockey let's punch everyone and scream at the refs instead" meltdown rode that was the Bylsma era's specialty. They didn't make life easy for a goalie and imo it would gently caress with any goalie's consistency after a while. e: If you look over MAF's career year-by-year statlines he is actually one of the most consistent goalies ever which is hilarious. You never knew what the hell you were getting from game to game, but you always knew exactly what you were getting from year to year. The MAF ExperienceŽ
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# ? Jun 12, 2017 05:54 |
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Ginette Reno posted:I don't know about undeserved. He's a genuinely super nice guy and that's great and all but he was also *the* reason for like four seasons in a row that they blew up spectacularly in the playoffs. He was poo poo in 2012 against the Flyers. So was the entire goddamn team except maybe Jordan Staal. The rest, nope, can't blame him
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ElwoodCuse posted:If they fired Bylsma after 2012 like they should have this is their 6th (at least) cup That and if they'd gotten Maf a goalie coach earlier. Bales turned Maf around in a big way. He's been good and basically demon free ever since Bales took over as goalie coach. Apparently Meloche never told Maf to do basic poo poo like hold his post and not flop on every scramble.
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# ? Jun 12, 2017 05:55 |
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I don't know how you blame that Bruins ECF where they scored 2 goddamn goals on anyone by Byslma
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# ? Jun 12, 2017 05:56 |
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ElwoodCuse posted:If they fired Bylsma after 2012 like they should have this is their 6th (at least) cup Dramatically depends on who they'd have hired to replace him back then. When they finally did fire Bylsma they managed somehow to replace him with the literal worst coach in NHL history. I really love Mike Sullivan and am probably going to write a long rambling post extolling his virtues sometime tomorrow, but tbh I'm still not 100% sure he's A Good Coach and not just A Competent Coach after years and years of very bad Penguins coaches.
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# ? Jun 12, 2017 05:58 |
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I'm a baseball guy and my wife's the hockey fan, but I'll take this.
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# ? Jun 12, 2017 05:58 |
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ElwoodCuse posted:I don't know how you blame that Bruins ECF where they scored 2 goddamn goals on anyone by Byslma From 09-10 to 12-13 Maf had a sub 900 save % every single year and I mean there were certainly other reasons the Pens failed but he was a big one. But who the gently caress cares at this point he was instrumental in two Cup wins and had a good regular season at least for the other one.
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# ? Jun 12, 2017 05:59 |
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ElwoodCuse posted:If they fired Bylsma after 2012 like they should have this is their 6th (at least) cup But if they fired Bylsma back then there's a good chance they don't do the things they did (like pick up Kessel, pick up Sullivan, etc.), thus they may still have only 3 Cups.
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# ? Jun 12, 2017 05:59 |
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Eric the Mauve posted:Dramatically depends on who they'd have hired to replace him back then. When they finally did fire Bylsma they managed somehow to replace him with the literal worst coach in NHL history. There are very few back to back Cup winning coaches in the expansion era. Very few.
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# ? Jun 12, 2017 05:59 |
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You know what really hosed them in 2012, no offside review for that loving Briere goal. Never mind the "was his skate off the ice" poo poo, he was loving 3 feet offside.
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# ? Jun 12, 2017 06:00 |
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https://twitter.com/BeauWTAE/status/874116595479699457 I see that you are not wearing khakis this time Tayne
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Eric the Mauve posted:I think a lot of vets in MAF's position could have and would have made a HUGE shitstorm about being benched for a rookie, especially with a NMC to back it up. It's pretty amazing, same thing happened ages ago when he had the high ankle sprain and played some games in the AHL. Guy is one of the most humble dudes.
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# ? Jun 12, 2017 06:01 |
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Firing Shero may have been a bigger turning point than firing Bylsma really. Shero had/has a good knack for drafting young guys but was honestly a catastrophe at assembling an NHL team and thinks highly of the exact wrong kinds of skills and traits So good luck with that Devils fans, I guess
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# ? Jun 12, 2017 06:01 |
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The goalie in the ECF against Boston was Vokoun anyway, not Fleury.
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Aphrodite posted:The goalie in the ECF against Boston was Vokoun anyway, not Fleury. I thought I remember Maf playing the first game or two. Maybe he just came in for relief. Anyways that wasn't the season I pin on him but the 3 before that he was putrid. But like I said right now I don't much care
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achillesforever6 posted:https://twitter.com/BeauWTAE/status/874116595479699457 It's me. I'm the guy in this post.
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Ginette Reno posted:I thought I remember Maf playing the first game or two. Maybe he just came in for relief. Vokoun got pulled in game 2 but they went back to him in 3.
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Eric the Mauve posted:Firing Shero may have been a bigger turning point than firing Bylsma really. Shero had/has a good knack for drafting young guys but was honestly a catastrophe at assembling an NHL team and thinks highly of the exact wrong kinds of skills and traits yeah there's no way these runs happen without trading scuderi and sutter, and dupuis' blood clots (which is really lovely for him as a person but probably really good for the penguins' cap situation) also i'll bet shero would have extended orpik
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# ? Jun 12, 2017 06:06 |
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2013 was the first time MaF was absolutely definitely done in Pittsburgh and they were going with a young goalie for their future.
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Eric the Mauve posted:Firing Shero may have been a bigger turning point than firing Bylsma yep.
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Pornographic Memory posted:yeah there's no way these runs happen without trading scuderi and sutter, and dupuis' blood clots (which is really lovely for him as a person but probably really good for the penguins' cap situation) Shero got us Guentzel and Murray so in the end I forgive him too.
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Aphrodite posted:2013 was the first time MaF was absolutely definitely done in Pittsburgh and they were going with a young goalie for their future. Except 2013 didn't have a rookie goalie with two Cups.
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achillesforever6 posted:https://twitter.com/BeauWTAE/status/874116595479699457
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# ? Jun 12, 2017 06:11 |
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Ginette Reno posted:Shero got us Guentzel and Murray so in the end I forgive him too. mm, true.
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# ? Jun 12, 2017 06:11 |
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How the gently caress do I live in a world though where Mike Sullivan - a Torts assistance coach - morphs into an awesome head coach and Jim motherfuckin Rutherford is handed the keys and not only makes like 95% astute moves but ends up with back to back Cups. e: nm I forgot Trump is president so I guess it all makes sense.
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# ? Jun 12, 2017 06:11 |
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Ginette Reno posted:Shero got us Guentzel and Murray so in the end I forgive him too. It's funny, Shero's legacy has done the Pens more good than harm but they absolutely cut him loose at the right time anyway.
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Ginette Reno posted:How the gently caress do I live in a world though where Mike Sullivan - a Torts assistance coach - morphs into an awesome head coach and Jim motherfuckin Rutherford is handed the keys and not only makes like 95% astute moves but ends up with back to back Cups. Pittsburgh Power, my man. Hop on and enjoy the ride. See you at the West End Circle.
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# ? Jun 12, 2017 06:12 |
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Citizen Tayne posted:It's funny, Shero's legacy has done the Pens more good than harm but they absolutely cut him loose at the right time anyway. It kinda went the same way for Craig Patrick. Citizen Tayne posted:Pittsburgh Power, my man. I wish I was at Meat and Potatoes right now getting hammered on 10 dollar cocktails . Game 5 was so much fun.
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# ? Jun 12, 2017 06:12 |
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Ginette Reno posted:It kinda went the same way for Craig Patrick. speaking of him, it's pretty wild to think that the same guy who built the lemieux-era championship teams drafted the fleury/crosby/malkin/letang core too
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# ? Jun 12, 2017 06:17 |
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Sid and Geno need to replicate this now
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# ? Jun 12, 2017 06:31 |
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Ginette Reno posted:Sid and Geno need to replicate this now But neither of them have mullets.
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Pornographic Memory posted:speaking of him, it's pretty wild to think that the same guy who built the lemieux-era championship teams drafted the fleury/crosby/malkin/letang core too But also responsible for melichar and fata.
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# ? Jun 12, 2017 06:36 |
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Any of you guys watch Pittsburgh Is Home? Jagr goes to the Ross Park Mall in like 1992 and holy gently caress the time warp
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# ? Jun 12, 2017 06:37 |
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Captain Internet posted:But also responsible for melichar and fata. which Fata, there were two of them
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iospace posted:But neither of them have mullets. They're not perfect, but they're the best we have left
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