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Finished the last 50 Year Mission book. I'm happy with how much effort they put into it, although the 2nd book was very much weighted towards TNG in how many pages were devoted to it. It broke down like this: 50% TNG/TNG films 20% DS9 10-15% VOY 5-10% ENT 5% JJVerse films 5% pop culture/legacy of Trek I would have liked a little more from the DS9 actors. Most of it was talking to Behr, Piller, and Moore which is fine, but not a lot of the actual cast were interviewed. Alexander Siddig seemed to say the most. I don't recall any comments at all from Colm Meaney. Obviously I think the only Avery Brooks stuff was from older interviews since I know he is kind of an odd dude and a recluse. I think overall the best stuff came from Robert Beltran (Chakotay), and Rick Berman. Berman, like it or not, didn't hold back. Although you could tell he has a sexist streak at times. Beltran was very honest about kind of checking out of the series mentally since he felt like he had nothing to do which is telling.
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Beltran walked into Voyager not being a science fiction fan, much less a Star Trek fan. Pile on top of that the horrible characterization of "you're the token native american dude" that was "advised" by goddamn Jamake Highwater and he did a goddamn good job holding it together in there. Also what the hell is Avery Brooks even up to these days?
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Kazinsal posted:Also what the hell is Avery Brooks even up to these days? Complaining about a lack of flying cars.
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The_Doctor posted:Trying to fly a ship with individual buttons like that seems like it'd be incredibly hard. Individual buttons that aren't actually there and that you get no feedback on besides the position of your virtual hand, no less.
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Railing Kill posted:I can see why writers are constantly tempted to reheat TNG and TOS classics, but in reality they never work. When have we ever said, "that newer version of that old classic episode was better"? "Trials and Tribble-ations" 
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MrMojok posted:I love the ship-to-ship combat in a couple of the films, and episodes like "Balance of Terror". I guess that makes me kind of not a true Trek fan because that's not what Trek is really about, but I do love it so. Just, how in the hell.
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Hello Trek Goons I am just about to watch What You Leave behind and complete my watch of DS9 after following the Max Temkin guide to TNG and DS9 and now I have a problem. Should I watch Voyager? If so, is there a guide to skipping the poo poo episodes like the ones I've been following? Please help me.
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Coq au Nandos posted:Should I watch Voyager? NO!
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jng2058 posted:"Trials and Tribble-ations" That's not quite the same. "Trials and Tribble-ations" is a direct reference to a past episode, and even splices itself into the old episode. I was talking about more indirect references and rehashes of past episodes. But, yes, "Trials and Tribble-ations" is fantastic. Coq au Nandos posted:Hello Trek Goons I am just about to watch What You Leave behind and complete my watch of DS9 after following the Max Temkin guide to TNG and DS9 and now I have a problem. http://www.nooooooooooooooo.com/
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You have to watch Voyager. Only then can you truly appreciate Deep Space Nine.
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In the absence of a Temkin or Goon-certified list of Good and Cool Episodes I will watch these 15 http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/lists/star-trek-voyager-episodes-best-930900/item/caretaker-star-trek-100-925104 And also the one where the Doctor meets Andy Dick because that's the only episode of Voyager I've ever watched and it seemed cool at the time.
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Blade_of_tyshalle posted:You have to watch Voyager. Only then can you truly appreciate Deep Space Nine. You have to slam your dick in a screen door. Only then can you appreciate not slamming your dick in a screen door.
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DS9 combat is nothing like the ship to ship combat in "Balance of Terror" or The Wrath of Khan. DS9 has a lot of great things but the actual combat is not among them.
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King Hong Kong posted:DS9 combat is nothing like the ship to ship combat in "Balance of Terror" or The Wrath of Khan. DS9 has a lot of great things but the actual combat is not among them. I know it's not exactly the same but I always got that kind of vibe from "For the Uniform" with the cascade virus on the Defiant. "Engine room, bridge: warp speed!"
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I have finally found time to binge the first season of Star Trek TNG and I have to say, I hate Wesley less than I used to.
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The Bloop posted:You have to slam your dick in a screen door. Only then can you appreciate not slamming your dick in a screen door. Look, fellow goon, we are already dead. We watch Voyager to win back our lives.
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King Hong Kong posted:DS9 combat is nothing like the ship to ship combat in "Balance of Terror" or The Wrath of Khan. DS9 has a lot of great things but the actual combat is not among them. "Sacrifice of Angels", for all its other faults, still had an excellent space battle in it. It was so good that they reused a lot of the shots in the series finale! 
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If you want more Balance of Terror combat, your best bet is old submarine movies.
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Specifically "The Enemy Below," of which "Balance of Terror" is a complete ripoff.
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So why did they make Deanna Troi pregnant with her radioactive demiclone child while the Enterprise was shipping a dangerous disease which only became contained when the child of Virgin birth kills himself and flies away
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Nazgul posted:So why did they make Deanna Troi pregnant with her radioactive demiclone child while the Enterprise was shipping a dangerous disease which only became contained when the child of Virgin birth kills himself and flies away Writers' strike
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Tsaedje posted:Writers' strike That explains it but who read it and didn't at least think "This is some weird poo poo"
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Probably one of Gene's fetishes Insert the "waves and waves of cum" quote here
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Have you ever sexed with a human before?
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Drink-Mix Man posted:Have you ever sexed with a human before? I have once, but she had just been transported so I'm not sure if she was real or an obscene undead caricature of a human being.
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You were warned.
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So, how do they square Klingon weddings with taking "The Oath." It seems like the initial idea was for Klingons to be very austere in their rituals, but later they decided to go very intricate.
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SimonCat posted:So, how do they square Klingon weddings with taking "The Oath." Eh, how do you square civil ceremonies with religious ones here? A single culture can have both simple and elaborate versions of a ceremony that serve the same function.
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macnbc posted:Eh, how do you square civil ceremonies with religious ones here? A single culture can have both simple and elaborate versions of a ceremony that serve the same function. I suppose. Maybe the Oath is the engagement? It seemed like Worf and K'ehlar(sp) were just going to be mated by the Oath and later Worf is all about the full Klingon wedding. He must have gotten more sentimental as he aged.
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Worf is also a weirdo uptight prude who believes you have to marry the first person you sleep with, whereas every other Klingon woman we see in every series is at least as sexually aggressive as the men and their huntin', fuckin', and fightin' warrior culture.
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Well, that's Worf's whole deal, really. He's a weeaboo for what he thinks proper Klingon culture is and you can just see K'ehlar roll her eyes like in a "oh my god, you were saving yourself for marriage? I can't even" way when he says that they now must take the Oath.
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Worf's spirit animal is Brendan Fraser in Blast From The Past.
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McSpanky posted:Worf's spirit animal is Brendan Fraser in Blast From The Past. Worf has expensive baseball cards in a shoebox and knows the capital of Alaska.
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CBS not committing to that Fall release date for Discovery Welp.
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lol Just watched Flashback. A series based on the Excelsior would have been a way better basis for a show than Voyager, particularly if they could have cast Takei in a recurring role.
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I'm going to guess it airs a year after the original date.
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They're really just tooling up to capitalize on that 52nd anniversary of the series and all the good will from the movie Star Trek: Kirk and Thor's Excellent Adventures.
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So I guess The Good Fight is CBS All Access flagship show now? Just die already and stream online for free like the other big networks you dorks. Oh and I guess I should say that Star Trek fans are dorks too.
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