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A Buttery Pastry
Sep 4, 2011

Delicious and Informative!
:3:

One More Fat Nerd posted:

Even assuming a good Dem (Bernie) wins, i dont know what we do after this. The masks are off. 20-40% of the country are within 2 steps of full fash. How do we move forward? You cant put 60 million people in a gulag. Abolishing capitalism wont fix people who willingly, happily, sacrifice their own goverment benefits in the name of white supremacy.
1/3 of the South was enslaved until the Civil War, so you could reasonably put 100 million in a gulag. Unless you think the modern US is less capable than the Antebellum South.

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Doc Hawkins
Jun 15, 2010

Dashing? But I'm not even moving!


Agean90 posted:

the invisibility washed off during a light shower

as seen in the documentary Predator

Ayatollah Hermione
Apr 3, 2007

by Cyrano4747

A Buttery Pastry posted:

1/3 of the South was enslaved until the Civil War, so you could reasonably put 100 million in a gulag. Unless you think the modern US is less capable than the Antebellum South.

Build the Wall. All the Way Around.

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

Epic High Five posted:

1 step plan to preventing chuds from organizing rallies or demonstrations:

1) ban all lawn chairs

You must be under 200 pounds to attend this event

got any sevens
Feb 9, 2013

by Cyrano4747

BraveUlysses posted:

feeling like another chud safari is about due

nytimes just did one today, about poor southerners still thinking they can escape poverty

Militant Lesbian
Oct 3, 2002

A Buttery Pastry posted:

1/3 of the South was enslaved until the Civil War, so you could reasonably put 100 million in a gulag. Unless you think the modern US is less capable than the Antebellum South.

https://twitter.com/seanrmoorhead/status/1138501458830249987?s=21

BBJoey
Oct 31, 2012

Interesting that twitter users think they know better about fighting reactionaries than Lenin, Stalin and Mao 🤔

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004




20 hours a week in the secret police, rest of the time dedicated to my superweed garden

Victory Position
Mar 16, 2004

Epic High Five posted:

1 step plan to preventing chuds from organizing rallies or demonstrations:

1) ban all lawn chairs

whipping a chair at you as I immediately plant a chair down in order ensure I have a parking spot

Militant Lesbian
Oct 3, 2002

BBJoey posted:

Interesting that twitter users think they know better about fighting reactionaries than Lenin, Stalin and Mao 🤔

process this:

thinking anyone who doesn't like your precious founding fathers of MLMism is the enemy is reactionary behaviour itself
You're reacting to someone disrespecting your idol by reacting with hostility because grrr change bad just like a boomer chud getting mad about people disrespecting are troops

maybe learn to stop idolizing big daddy as the be-all end-all of socialism and then you can learn how to be a proper leftist

ContinuityNewTimes
Dec 30, 2010

Я выдуман напрочь

BBJoey posted:

Interesting that twitter users think they know better about fighting reactionaries than Lenin, Stalin and Mao 🤔

they might have known a lot about killing people but they didn't know poo poo about liberating the working class lol

maybe one day we'll get over this infantile obsession with big men leading big, powerful states

CharlestheHammer
Jun 26, 2011

YOU SAY MY POSTS ARE THE RAVINGS OF THE DUMBEST PERSON ON GOD'S GREEN EARTH BUT YOU YOURSELF ARE READING THEM. CURIOUS!
I mean big states is how it’s gonna work so I pray people don’t get over it as that means they have effectively given up

ContinuityNewTimes
Dec 30, 2010

Я выдуман напрочь

Militant Lesbian
Oct 3, 2002

Marxist-Jezzinist posted:

they might have known a lot about killing people but they didn't know poo poo about liberating the working class lol

maybe one day we'll get over this infantile obsession with big men leading big, powerful states

one day after capitalism has been destroyed and we are well on the way towards classless, stateless society these guys will be holding rallies where everyone will have red hats with “Make Communism Great Again” on them, holding signs saying “Build The Gulag”

CharlestheHammer
Jun 26, 2011

YOU SAY MY POSTS ARE THE RAVINGS OF THE DUMBEST PERSON ON GOD'S GREEN EARTH BUT YOU YOURSELF ARE READING THEM. CURIOUS!
what’s funny about that Bakunin meme is even though he was fiercely anti state when trying to propose a counter it ultimately was just a state that was formed slightly differently

ContinuityNewTimes
Dec 30, 2010

Я выдуман напрочь
millions of victims of bakunin's invention, the anarchist state

CharlestheHammer
Jun 26, 2011

YOU SAY MY POSTS ARE THE RAVINGS OF THE DUMBEST PERSON ON GOD'S GREEN EARTH BUT YOU YOURSELF ARE READING THEM. CURIOUS!
I don’t think he ever managed to ever accomplish anything so that’s unfair.

though to his credit not for lack of trying

Chokes McGee
Aug 7, 2008

This is Urotsuki.

Civilized Fishbot
Apr 3, 2011

A Buttery Pastry posted:

1/3 of the South was enslaved until the Civil War, so you could reasonably put 100 million in a gulag. Unless you think the modern US is less capable than the Antebellum South.

"These shitheads are only 2 steps away from going full fash. Therefore I'm only 1 step away from placing 100 million people into one of human history's most brutal systems of forced labor, mass rape, and genocide"

You know Marx was opposed to the mass enslavement of black people in America, right? He thought it was bad

Civilized Fishbot has issued a correction as of 16:07 on Jul 5, 2019

Agean90
Jun 28, 2008


Civilized Fishbot posted:

"These shitheads are only 2 steps away from going full fash. Therefore I'm only 1 step away from placing 100 million people into one of human history's most brutal systems of forced labor, mass rape, and genocide"

Hell yeah gently caress the south Sherman did nothing wrong

Civilized Fishbot
Apr 3, 2011

Agean90 posted:

Hell yeah gently caress the south Sherman did nothing wrong

Sherman was ending the mass enslavement of people in the South which is a little different from resurrecting it

Agean90
Jun 28, 2008


Civilized Fishbot posted:

Sherman was ending the mass enslavement of people in the South which is a little different from resurrecting it

agreed, just start mass firing squads target people at the top of the system and start spending ammo while working your way down until the chuds shut the gently caress up

ContinuityNewTimes
Dec 30, 2010

Я выдуман напрочь
for some people liberation is secondary to punishment

Civilized Fishbot
Apr 3, 2011

Agean90 posted:

agreed, just start mass firing squads target people at the top of the system and start spending ammo while working your way down until the chuds shut the gently caress up

(seeing a 76-year-old man with gout post on facebook to ask why there's no white entertainment television) we can only purge our nation of this corruption by the blade or the bullet

Agean90
Jun 28, 2008


Civilized Fishbot posted:

(seeing a 76-year-old man with gout ask why there's no white entertainment television) we can only purge our nation of this corruption by the blade or bullet

This, but unironocally

Civilized Fishbot
Apr 3, 2011
after we get trump out of office, we'll be able to (stanford prison) experiment with new forms of government

ContinuityNewTimes
Dec 30, 2010

Я выдуман напрочь
the only form of government is a proletarian dictatorship but run by middle class failsons on the behalf of the dumb masses

Agean90
Jun 28, 2008


Now now, I don't care for prletoleitian dicktaters or what ever.

I'm advocating for doing what reconstruction should have done, and what reconstruction should have done is shoot the plantation owners

ContinuityNewTimes
Dec 30, 2010

Я выдуман напрочь
they're already dead

Civilized Fishbot
Apr 3, 2011

Agean90 posted:

Now now, I don't care for prletoleitian dicktaters or what ever.

I'm advocating for doing what reconstruction should have done, and what reconstruction should have done is shoot the plantation owners

shooting the plantation owners is absolutely morally justified but a guy on this page was talking about enslaving 100 million people based on the model of southern chattel slavery, which is bad for the same reason shooting plantation owners is good

Agean90
Jun 28, 2008


Marxist-Jezzinist posted:

they're already dead

they set up a system to make sure their position in society remained the same used violence to enforce it and those same systems are still in effect being used by people with the precise same motivations to this very day

CharlestheHammer
Jun 26, 2011

YOU SAY MY POSTS ARE THE RAVINGS OF THE DUMBEST PERSON ON GOD'S GREEN EARTH BUT YOU YOURSELF ARE READING THEM. CURIOUS!
I have some bad news for you on that front.

they are still running those plantations now just as a tourist trap and a place to spread confederacy propaganda.

you can get married there even.

Agean90
Jun 28, 2008


Civilized Fishbot posted:

shooting the plantation owners is absolutely morally justified but a guy on this page was talking about enslaving 100 million people based on the model of southern chattel slavery, which is bad for the same reason shooting plantation owners is good

Yeah early morning posting aside that would just be a waste of effort. the south is hosed in a lot of ways and your gonna have to put the boot down for a bit to unfuck it but there is such a thing as too much

Victory Position
Mar 16, 2004

CharlestheHammer posted:

I have some bad news for you on that front.

they are still running those plantations now just as a tourist trap and a place to spread confederacy propaganda.

you can get married there even.

do they have lovely county fair rides there

CharlestheHammer
Jun 26, 2011

YOU SAY MY POSTS ARE THE RAVINGS OF THE DUMBEST PERSON ON GOD'S GREEN EARTH BUT YOU YOURSELF ARE READING THEM. CURIOUS!

Victory Position posted:

do they have lovely county fair rides there

nah they run more like a lovely museum

Agean90
Jun 28, 2008


CharlestheHammer posted:

nah they run more like a lovely museum

to be fair quite a few have made a lot of effort in recent years to actually show the bad conditions the slaves lived in and state in no uncertain terms that the owners were responsible for it, and it's done work in refuting a few more common myths for a lot of people.

unfortunately there are also a lot of people who are there to plug their ears, not mention the ones that just don't care so many sides many sides

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

The Owens-Thomas House in Savannah is a good place to tour. They talk about how the longest owner of the house was a member of the House of Representatives and also a plantation baron who supported the Indian Removal Act purely because it would open up more land for slaves. They have signage in their public visitor center explaining the use of terminology like "enslaved people" and emphasizing that the plantations were forced labor camps.

They also cover some of the more nuanced aspects of it, like the cognitive dissonance of treating indoor slaves as trusted and loved members of the family while still enslaving them against their will.

H.P. Hovercraft
Jan 12, 2004

one thing a computer can do that most humans can't is be sealed up in a cardboard box and sit in a warehouse
Slippery Tilde
i once attended a wedding at houmas house, which at one time was the largest plantation on the mississippi

since i was p close to the bride's family we got to do the tour and hang out in the gentlemen's entertainment room, which included playing pool on a table whose legs were carved to look like slaves were holding it up

A Buttery Pastry
Sep 4, 2011

Delicious and Informative!
:3:

Civilized Fishbot posted:

"These shitheads are only 2 steps away from going full fash. Therefore I'm only 1 step away from placing 100 million people into one of human history's most brutal systems of forced labor, mass rape, and genocide"

You know Marx was opposed to the mass enslavement of black people in America, right? He thought it was bad
Just because you can doesn't mean you should...

CharlestheHammer posted:

I have some bad news for you on that front.

they are still running those plantations now just as a tourist trap and a place to spread confederacy propaganda.

you can get married there even.
Are place like Angola post-Civil War plantations? Because if not, some of them just stayed in business.

A Buttery Pastry has issued a correction as of 17:52 on Jul 5, 2019

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Shaffness
Jan 15, 2001

H.P. Hovercraft posted:

i once attended a wedding at houmas house, which at one time was the largest plantation on the mississippi

since i was p close to the bride's family we got to do the tour and hang out in the gentlemen's entertainment room, which included playing pool on a table whose legs were carved to look like slaves were holding it up

I've been watching Ken Burns Civil War on Netflix and that last sentence just made me say oof. The South really is well and truly hosed and they've done a bang up job spreading the "redneck pride"infection to the rest of the country.

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