i got banned posted:I like feeling so balanced that I can't feel any emotions, truly the halcyon days of psychology. Actually wonder drugs do exist I was going to be a high-power corporate lawyer and everybody would look at me and go 'gosh what a high-power corporate lawyer' but then I took acid and decided not to waste my life on being a piece of poo poo. They say my heart grew three sizes that day
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I thank Buddha every day for blessing me with the opportunity to eat that tab. Your point is valid as gently caress. i got banned fucked around with this message at 14:13 on Apr 2, 2014 |
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Apr 2, 2014 14:11
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Has your mate considered eating bio-active yoghurt? Sometimes natural remedies are the best medicine. If you don't want to be a hippie you could do the patriotic thing and ignore it, steadfast refuse to believe in mental illnesses, drink about fifteen tinnies of VB each day and beat your wife and kids and people on the street on the way to vote LNP because we need to keep those violent Sudanese out of are country e: I'm holding the latest results from Australia's investment into mental health research and there's just a coupon for 20% off a slab of VB at Dan Murphy's and a post-it note that says "kill yourself". Progress? Sulla Faex fucked around with this message at 14:20 on Apr 2, 2014 |
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Apr 2, 2014 14:18
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Yep, Rosemary Kennedy for me too. 
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Apr 2, 2014 14:20
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Is this the threas where we all talk about how acid made us raise our oneness and interconnectedness with the universe and made us more compassionate people? Because it's not like that for everybody. It was for me, and you guys too, apparently; but I have meet plenty of acid eating fuckstains who were racist, wife beating sacks of poo poo with no redeeming features or capacity for self-reflection and personal growth. Acid party: pooped. e: I'm willing to wager cartoon can grow some of The Deadly Shrumes on the grid. Party at cartoon's house, everybody. BlitzkriegOfColour fucked around with this message at 14:24 on Apr 2, 2014 |
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Apr 2, 2014 14:21
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Mods, rename this thread Aussie acid advocates April and move to TCC please. tia
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Apr 2, 2014 14:23
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It's probably one of those Garbage In Garbage Out things.
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Apr 2, 2014 14:26
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i got banned posted:Electric zombie Liberal voters sounds like the best case kind of dystopian misery future scenario at this rate. Also the catchiest.  IMO we shouldn't let anyone but psychiatrists prescribe psychoactive meds, but that would require psychiatrists to bulk bill and like none of them do. Seeing a counselor and then taking a recommendation to a GP or, worse, just having a GP prescribe on their own is tantamount to negligence.I'm so lucky because my primary shrink is a psychoanalyst who generally will not medicate. He did eventually put me on a very low dose of lexapro for anxiety but he told me to go to the Black Dog Institute when we started to think I was bipolar. My medicating shrink is the BDI doctor who diagnosed me and I've given them both permission to bitch about me behind my back.I'm probably one of the best cared for loonies in Sydney TBH, between my shrinks and my mum, I'm so lucky compared to most other people. And that loving sucks because every single one of my clients and everyone else should be getting the standard of care I'm getting. Medicating shrink put me on lamictal, and it's working for me imo. I still rapid cycle but I always will, the fluctuations are just far less wild so I'm able to function. Also lucky that both drugs worked for me and we haven't had to tinker except with raising the lamictal dosage, which is some kind of weird kismet.
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BlitzkriegOfColour posted:Is this the threas where we all talk about how acid made us raise our oneness and interconnectedness with the universe and made us more compassionate people? That's because today's acid is adulterated trash and the only real answer is to take so many shrooms that you undergo ego death and then post about it incessantly and forever after change your facebook display picture to landscape shots
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Apr 2, 2014 14:30
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I just self medicate with illegal drugs and alcohol woot
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Apr 2, 2014 14:30
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Sulla-Marius 88 posted:Has your mate considered eating bio-active yoghurt? Sometimes natural remedies are the best medicine. Depends. Is the post-it neon or a soothing blue?
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Fruity Gordo posted:Depends. Is the post-it neon or a soothing blue? It's the cool calming colour of Brandis' neck flesh
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i got banned posted:I just self medicate with illegal drugs and alcohol woot Me too which is why I'm seeing my third shrink for CBT.  I'm Jewisher than Woody Allen. But the psychoanalyst bills me on a sliding scale and CBT lady is free so 
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Sulla-Marius 88 posted:It's the cool calming colour of Brandis' neck flesh Excellent.
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My partner struggled through five years of swapping meds and doses(the last 2 of which I was there for) before CBT(and probably time as well, she had been present at and felt guilt for a close friends suicide which started the worst of it)finally started to break through and thank gently caress for that because the doctors were starting to seriously get behind the idea of ect.
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I've yet to be recommended a shrink that doesn't loving solve poo poo by chucking pills down my throat, I'm seeing you to stop using drugs you gently caress. I've had a friend recommend me CBT though. How are you finding it Fruity Gordo? i got banned fucked around with this message at 14:36 on Apr 2, 2014 |
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Apr 2, 2014 14:33
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i got banned posted:I've yet to be recommended a shrink that doesn't loving solve poo poo by chucking pills down my throat, I'm seeing you to stop using drugs you gently caress. Which city are you in? I MIGHT have some connections through my colleagues and shrinks, a lot of people I know are legit non-scumbags and work in mental health.
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I'm in Melbourne and I also just relapsed recently so now would be a good time to probably see someone. edit: mods move to TCC cheers i got banned fucked around with this message at 14:40 on Apr 2, 2014 |
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Apr 2, 2014 14:37
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Yeah, the turning point for my partner imo was when she got a fulltime job so was able to (barely) afford seeing an ologist to focus completely on non pharma solutions as well as an iatrist (which she needed even if she decided to stop drugs because of managing the cessation of a bunch of different interacting antipsychotics antidepressants and anti anxiety stuff) I also saw a cbt person to help with poo poo I'd been carrying since high school and was lucky enough to not need a pharma based solution to help me out
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poo poo, society still just cannot grasp the role or nature of grief, something everybody is going to meet by their early 20s at latest, how is it supposed to deal with mental illness? Every time a mentally ill person dies society goes 'oh okay we know how to deal with this now, we'll give their relatives 0-3 days off work and then stare at them in awkward confusion if they ever bring that person up again' e: As soon as I meet someone with mental health issues I go "oh man this is perfect, I know the perfect flowers I can buy for your funeral to make everything better again" Sulla Faex fucked around with this message at 14:41 on Apr 2, 2014 |
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Sulla-Marius 88 posted:poo poo, society still just cannot grasp the role or nature of grief, something everybody is going to meet by their early 20s at latest, how is it supposed to deal with mental illness? Every time a mentally ill person dies society goes 'oh okay we know how to deal with this now, we'll give their relatives 0-3 days off work and then stare at them in awkward confusion if they ever bring that person up again' this times a million, even more so if that person isn't dead but just left their life completely as a parent so they were essentially dead but living. Which has no resolution, so much fun during a persons formative years.
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Gough Suppressant posted:My partner struggled through five years of swapping meds and doses(the last 2 of which I was there for) before CBT(and probably time as well, she had been present at and felt guilt for a close friends suicide which started the worst of it)finally started to break through and thank gently caress for that because the doctors were starting to seriously get behind the idea of ect. Argh that sucks and rules, I'm so glad she landed on something that helped her. Theoretically I don't see a huge difference between a lot of the disciplines which combine behaviourism and psychotherapy (DBT, CBT, Seligman's positive psychology, etc), ultimately it doesn't matter which brand (deliberate term) of therapy you get as long as the practitioner works for you. I'm really happy for your partner.
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i got banned posted:this times a million, even more so if that person isn't dead but just left their life completely as a parent so they were essentially dead but living. Which has no resolution, so much fun during a persons formative years. but it happened so long ago :puzzled blank smile:
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Sulla-Marius 88 posted:but it happened so long ago :puzzled blank smile: "she'll be right mate" Fruity Gordo posted:Argh that sucks and rules, I'm so glad she landed on something that helped her. Theoretically I don't see a huge difference between a lot of the disciplines which combine behaviourism and psychotherapy (DBT, CBT, Seligman's positive psychology, etc), ultimately it doesn't matter which brand (deliberate term) of therapy you get as long as the practitioner works for you. I'm really happy for your partner. I completely agree, I feel if you can get to the root of the problems and change how you instinctively deal with those deep stemmed issues without relying on drugs (in some cases psychoactive drugs are beneficial as gently caress, yes) then that is the route to go. The way you get there is purely semantics. i got banned fucked around with this message at 14:51 on Apr 2, 2014 |
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i got banned posted:I'm in Melbourne and I also just relapsed recently so now would be a good time to probably see someone. Cool. I'll be able to talk to CBT on Friday, I'll call psychoanalyst tomorrow and hopefully he'll have a list by the time I see him on Tuesday, and call my friends tomorrow as well to see if they have any hot tips and PM you by Sunday with preliminary results. I may as well call medicator's office for reccs as well, since he's a mood disorder specialist and does have a pretty even hand for a medicator. I'm not seeing him again until May tho so I'd just be asking the receptionist.
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That is amazing as gently caress. I appreciate it immensely 
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i got banned posted:this times a million, even more so if that person isn't dead but just left their life completely as a parent so they were essentially dead but living. Which has no resolution, so much fun during a persons formative years. Peep this noob who can't find he bootstraps. 
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i got banned posted:That is amazing as gently caress. I appreciate it immensely The perks of being a a social worker loonie, my friend. You're most welcome.
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In other "wait, it's not an April Fools joke? Aw gently caress" news, Labor want the government to guarantee that asylum seekers on Manus Island will never make it to Australia. http://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/2014/04/02/opposition-pushes-report-asylum-seeker-death-be-made-public Tell me more about how Labor are the real progressive choice in this country, guys.
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Tony Jowns posted:In other "wait, it's not an April Fools joke? Aw gently caress" news, Labor want the government to guarantee that asylum seekers on Manus Island will never make it to Australia. Tell you more? Who said it at all
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Apr 2, 2014 15:13
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yeah not even bcr says that any more
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I'll save you a free article read in The Monthly, Judith Brett says what we're all thinking:quote:THE TRIUMPHALISM OF TONY ABBOTT Royal Commissions as political weapons seem a particularly blunt and expensive PR strategy. It's just as likely to further erode the electorate's relationship with all politicians, and be their chief picture of this government. Because roads take a long time to build, and if the only other thing they've got going are political witch-hunts, that's not a lot to sell at the next election.
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The vast majority of Australians do not understand, or even care to understand what the government has been and is doing to asylum seekers and refugees. Each year it becomes a case of one-upmanship on who can be the shittest of all in Australia's game of Who Wants To Be An Evil Fuckwit. 50/50 and you get Labor or Libs, Phone a Friend? PNG, Ask the audience? Get out of my country you loving foreigners. If Australia has any chance in the future of redeeming themselves I hope to loving god that they retroactively imprison every single fucker that has had anything to do with our horrific asylum seeker and refugee policies.
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Phone posting so I'll be brief, but Cognitive BT is great and something I recommend to anyone with a disposition toward depression and/or anxiety. Did it over a decade ago in my late teens and it's incredibly helpful. Thanks for being candid about your own struggles, I made an appointment for long overdue counselling last week - had a major relapse a few years back under a sociopathic boss and was thrown back on meds but never got around to actually dealing with the underlying poo poo that caused the relapse. (PS. Never say "I love CBT" or "CBT is great" to anyone even tangentially involved in BDSM / fetish scenes. It's a very different acronym. :p)
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A combo of CBT and Lexapro (which I'm close to being weened off after several years, yesss) is pretty much the only reason my life isn't a lovely nightmare (also why I never killed my am self, luckily). I got pretty lucky with doctors though, and fortunately I can afford it all (and it ain't cheap). It's worth noting that while our understanding of human psychology has greatly advanced over the past several decades, brain drugs haven't at all really (they're just a bit more effective and have less side effects), and that trend isn't likely to change. I hate seeing people write off SSRIs and such, because without drugs therapy wasn't doing poo poo for me, but in general they're far from ideal, and won't be for a long time.
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I'm the same. Without the fluoxetine I get incredibly bad depressive episodes. I mean even with it they are kind of lovely but when I was off-meds it was hard to even get out of bed and would go without eating for days at a time (while trying to study Psychology  ). Combo of therapy and meds is the way to go IMO. Have any of you tried Acceptence and Commitment Therapy? I've been finding it really helpful. E: I shouldn't be so surprised at the prevalence of mental health issues in Auspol.
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Mental health chat is really positive for me, it makes me feel less alone. I hate having to explain why I'm sick to teachers and supervisors because it's so rare that they understand. Mental illness doesn't count as a chronic illness because loonies are ~spooky~. Because basically our existence is a threat to people who aren't chronically ill that it could happen to them. Lol. Matt, good on you, get back into it. Are you going to the same therapist or a new one? Because always remember that if you get a very bad vibe with a new therapist there are other, better-suited ones out there and finding someone you gel with can be a process. Also I loving love saying CBT for exactly that reason. Nick, I broadly agree. When I got up to about 100mg of lamictal I absolutely noticed that I became more open and vulnerable in psychoanalysis because it wasn't as painful to talk about trauma as it was before. My depressions weren't as deep and I didn't get as high, so being more level made it easier to cry and talk about things that make me cry. I'm on 200mg now which is pretty standard for rapid cyclers but the amount of booze I drink during dips complicates things, hence me going to the CBT lady to figure out strategies to create a healthy relationship with hooch. Goongrats on weening, that owns!! My process was: psychoanalysis for about 5 years as a teenager and early 20s and resolution of a serious eating disorder, then came the self-awareness and desperation to go to the Black Dog for a bipolar diagnosis, then about a year of freaking out about how I wanted to proceed about being bipolar with my analyst constantly trying to nudge me towards getting a medicating shrink, then a year and a half of medication and increased opening up about trauma as I was more able to talk, and now having a month or so of vocational counselling to arrest my self-medication with alcohol. Nothing has been solved yet, I'm still not fully functional, but I'm on a definite path to wellness and management of my disease. And that's cool. My process is mine, though, so no one should look at me and think it will work for them. Even with amazing shrinks I've been doing this poo poo for 8 years, because that's how long it's taken for me. It'll probably be a shorter process for most others because they're not as stubborn as me, or it might be longer, and none of that is bad. The whole point is finding a management strategy that works for the person who's sick.
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In case anybody is interested CBT also stands for Cock and Ball Torture but you only live once so after you've had as many kids as you want I say go for it (unless the person you mention it to has on their thigh a tattoo of the names of all the people they've accidentally killed)Chrodyn posted:E: I shouldn't be so surprised at the prevalence of mental health issues in Auspol. Does political masochism count?
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Serious question, is there any one Federal Labor member that is not a poo poo head and would be better suited as an IND or GRN?
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Ler posted:Serious question, is there any one Federal Labor member that is not a poo poo head and would be better suited as an IND or GRN? If they were not a shithead they would not be in a party that supports torture.
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