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Rageaholic Monkey posted:Well what's there to believe when the only footage of a movie you see before it comes out is painfully unfunny? Sorry, but the movie, like the trailers, is really funny.
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Man, that opening car crash action sequence -- for all its obvious CG -- was loving bananas. Tim Miller constructed that thing for maximum impact and he landed it with style. I think that's the key to this movie; take away the winking humor, you get a basic origin movie, but they hit the expected beats well enough that, at worst, it's a solid-if-forgettable entry into the superhero canon. Add the humor back in, though, and it works with the story (as opposed to lazily sitting on top of it) to create something just a few dozen degrees off normal. Basically this crew fully embraced what they were doing and were talented enough to make it count despite itself, but were self aware enough to riff off it and have fun. It may not have had the panache of the Jump Street movies, but that's a little like saying Kelly's Heroes didn't have the panache of The Dirty Dozen. It doesn't need to be that good, it's wonderful on its own terms. (Of course, I say all that reeeeally hoping that I'm not the only schmuck who loves Kelly's Heroes.)
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Feb 12, 2016 07:30
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I hope Ryan Reynolds just really takes this further and makes appearances as Deadpool at award shows and poo poo like that. I'm glad that this seems to be a success and hope he just goes with it.
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Feb 12, 2016 07:31
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Saw an early showing tonight. It was very good! Only a couple bad/flat jokes and the CGI is obviously budget, but the action is good, the dialogue and delivery really shined. The audience liked it so much, they clapped several times during the film. The americlap meme is real. Also, Stan Lee is a dj for a strip club. 
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Feb 12, 2016 07:41
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I had the same story blank spot with Movie Deadpool as I have Comic Deadpool: why is he all scarred up and ugly as poo poo? I get that Weapon X gave him Wolverine's healing power so it cured his cancer and he's functionally immortal because of it, but I've missed the point where it corresponds to "oh, and he's just totally ugly to boot".
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Feb 12, 2016 07:43
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MisterBibs posted:I had the same story blank spot with Movie Deadpool as I have Comic Deadpool: why is he all scarred up and ugly as poo poo? I get that Weapon X gave him Wolverine's healing power so it cured his cancer and he's functionally immortal because of it, but I've missed the point where it corresponds to "oh, and he's just totally ugly to boot". It didn't cure his cancer, it just keeps it from killing him. His entire body is cancer cells, pretty much.
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Feb 12, 2016 07:49
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LORD OF BUTT posted:I CALLED IT. I loving CALLED IT. Nobody believed me either, and I saw it multiple times and worked on the trailers so I wouldn't feel bad. Also my opinion is suspect, but that's neither here nor there.
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Feb 12, 2016 07:52
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kiimo posted:Nobody believed me either, and I saw it multiple times and worked on the trailers so I wouldn't feel bad. people still give you poo poo for Pixels, huh. well, you were right about this movie, for sure. It's pretty goddamn great.
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Feb 12, 2016 07:53
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MisterBibs posted:I had the same story blank spot with Movie Deadpool as I have Comic Deadpool: why is he all scarred up and ugly as poo poo? I get that Weapon X gave him Wolverine's healing power so it cured his cancer and he's functionally immortal because of it, but I've missed the point where it corresponds to "oh, and he's just totally ugly to boot". His entire body is cancerous, but his body is also constantly healing the cancer. So it's pretty much he gets cancer, his body eliminates it and makes him healthy again, and then the cancer immediately comes back, his body heals it, repeat for infinity. It's why he can heal from anything, because his body is in a constant state of regeneration or healing to fight off his cancer.
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Feb 12, 2016 07:54
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LORD OF BUTT posted:It didn't cure his cancer, it just keeps it from killing him. His entire body is cancer cells, pretty much. Codependent Poster posted:His entire body is cancerous, but his body is also constantly healing the cancer. So it's pretty much he gets cancer, his body eliminates it and makes him healthy again, and then the cancer immediately comes back, his body heals it, repeat for infinity.  drat, I'm not sure why I didn't realize that, given how long I read his comics. That's legitimately horrifying.e: vvv Eh, I've always found the lowest points for him was when they did pathos. I made zero effort to read the next writer's stuff after it ended with Deadpool wanting to die and stuff. I liked the joining-the-Xmen-made-a-bunch-of-pancakes-had-a-copy-of-himself-from-discarded-bits-Deadpool-Corps stuff. MisterBibs fucked around with this message at 08:07 on Feb 12, 2016 |
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Feb 12, 2016 07:57
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MisterBibs posted:
Yeah, there's a lot of legit pathos with Deadpool. The best stuff with the character makes use of it; the worst stuff with the character actively ignores it in the name of jokes.
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Feb 12, 2016 08:03
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Rageaholic Monkey posted:Well what's there to believe when the only footage of a movie you see before it comes out is painfully unfunny? The script leaked years ago and was pretty much universally lauded, though.
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Feb 12, 2016 08:17
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So I saw it with some friends tonight, and like many people the trailers had me ready to hate this movie. But god drat, that was funny as poo poo. Most of my favorite scenes have already been hit on, but we loving lost it during the post credit scene because we were trying to guess what it was going to be during the credits and got it right.
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Feb 12, 2016 08:27
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Movie was dope as hell, and Ryan Reynolds was charming as fuuuuuuuuuuck. I hope it does well.
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Feb 12, 2016 08:48
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Ryan reynolds should ONLY play Deadpool from now on till perpetuity
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Feb 12, 2016 09:09
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For anyone interested, I did an article about all the different Easter eggs and references in the movie. It's a work in progress.
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Feb 12, 2016 09:16
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This movie is so loving good. It's the script but so much loving better. I'm so happy. So loving happy.
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Feb 12, 2016 09:16
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MisterBibs posted:
It's also why he's considered insane. His brain cells are also in a constant state of flux. The X-Men used him as a mental conference room when they held a telepathic conversation to avoid being psychically overheard. He also uses it to cover his own actions. Wolverine calls him on it, too. He's not nearly as crazy as he pretends to be. It lets him get away with a lot of bullshit, but remember he IS a highly trained mercenary and quite competent.
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Feb 12, 2016 10:03
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Worth it for the Stan Lee cameo alone. I wont give it 10 for being perfect because it's not. It gets 10 for loving nailing Deadpool as a character and absolutly exceeding expectations on a clearly limited budget. Any problems Deadpool has really come down to Fox didnt give em enough cash - but the movie is self aware of that and turns it into a great running gag. That self awareness and willingness to even draw attention to it's own flaws was perfectly done. It earns the R-Rating big time and it looks like they cut a few things that were too harsh even for that. Again, referenced and turned into a gag. It's got about as much fat on it as Ryan Reynold's abs - very fast paced and to be honest could have done with another 10 minutes. Credits are hysterical, stick around to the end of them. And holy poo poo, it's hilarious. Absolute machine gun it just never lets up hysterical. The plot is really generic origin movie, it's threadbare to say the least. Altho I was not expecting Wade to get the girl in the end. Internation Womens Day was so goddamn funny, but the whole days of the calendar thing was brilliant too. There is poo poo you are gonnna miss, there's a lot of background gags.
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Feb 12, 2016 12:56
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So far this is the feel good Christmas movie of the year! There are little hints about it being Christmas time. Wade and Veronica were wearing Xmas sweaters two years earlier. There was an advent calendar on the wall of Deadpool's house. Deadpool talks about visiting someone on his naughty list. I'm sure there's more.
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Feb 12, 2016 13:24
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I saw Hail, Caesar last night and when I left the theater there was a guy sitting on a bench cosplaying Deadpool. He was totally in character with snarky lines and everything. I should have taken a picture. That's my Deadpool story.
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Feb 12, 2016 14:28
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Ehud posted:I saw Hail, Caesar last night and when I left the theater there was a guy sitting on a bench cosplaying Deadpool. He was totally in character with snarky lines and everything. I should have taken a picture. I didn't see any full-blown cosplayers, but there were tons of Deadpool hoodies being worn. Hey Gavok - minor trivia bit for your article: Deadpool states he is from Regina at one point in the movie. Ryan Reynolds filmed Just Friends in Regina.
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Feb 12, 2016 15:17
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Probably a dozen or so full blown cosplayers in my theater last night. And god were they loud before and after. But man movie was hilarious, would go again.
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Feb 12, 2016 15:23
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RandomPauI posted:So far this is the feel good Christmas movie of the year! During the scene where he is talking to the taxi driver at the beginning, the driver says something about it being April.
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Feb 12, 2016 15:49
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Canned Panda posted:During the scene where he is talking to the taxi driver at the beginning, the driver says something about it being April. Drats, I must have missed that part.
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Feb 12, 2016 16:08
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Thoroughly and happily surprised. Trailers looked like utter garbage, but went against my better judgment and it paid off. Pros: -Colossus was awesome -Humor was more Kelly/Remender and less Daniel Way, even though there were references to Way's run -NTW was a pretty cool character and the outfit was amazing. Comic bookesque and looks better than anything the X-movies have put forward; the entire costume department was on point. -Cameos done correctly - everyone advanced the plot in some way and it wasn't just "HEY LOOK, NAMELESS MUTANT WHO MAY OR MAY NOT BE IN THE COMICS" just for the sake of it. -4th wall breaking was used more for narrative structure than the tongue-in-cheek stuff -BOB!!! -Fluidity of the action was fun to watch; it's cool to actually see the people fighting and makes for a more memorable movie Cons: - Given his size and lack of a decent actor, I'm not sure we'll see a powered down Colossus that matches this one -Fake weapon-x cheapened the movie a bit, even if they did use actual X-men for the rest of the movie. -So what exactly is Ajax's power? -If a rated R X-Force with a Hugh Jackman Wolverine doesn't happen because he's done, I'll cry.
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Feb 12, 2016 16:38
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Donde Esta posted:-So what exactly is Ajax's power? He's basically an even more evil Darkman with cyborg enhancements to make him even stronger and faster while having no pain perceptions in the comics, not sure what they did for him in the movie as I haven't seen it yet.
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Feb 12, 2016 17:12
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I really enjoyed it, they seemed determined to have more Easter eggs per second than any other film in history, but it was very entertaining.
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Feb 12, 2016 17:14
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Saw the movie last night, it was fantastic. As someone who saw only that test reel from a few years ago and the red band trailer from last year, I was pleasantly surprised how well this movie turned out. The international women's day joke and the bits with the cabbie were loving hilarious to boot On the subject of Deadpool, has anyone played the game? It's on sale all over the place today and I'm curious if it's any good for ~20 bucks?
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Feb 12, 2016 17:16
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Handsome Ralph posted:On the subject of Deadpool, has anyone played the game? It's on sale all over the place today and I'm curious if it's any good for ~20 bucks? The game is NOWHERE near the level of the movie,but you could do worse.
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Feb 12, 2016 17:18
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Handsome Ralph posted:Saw the movie last night, it was fantastic. As someone who saw only that test reel from a few years ago and the red band trailer from last year, I was pleasantly surprised how well this movie turned out. The international women's day joke and the bits with the cabbie were loving hilarious to boot I got a few laughs out of the dialog/jokes/gags, but the actual game itself was a bit lackluster on the combat engine. Just watch all of the cutscenes on Youtube and save $20.
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Feb 12, 2016 17:22
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VolticSurge posted:The game is NOWHERE near the level of the movie,but you could do worse. If anyone can say it's as enjoyable/good as that Wolverine Origins game was that came out awhile ago, I'll grab it.
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Feb 12, 2016 17:29
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Handsome Ralph posted:If anyone can say it's as enjoyable/good as that Wolverine Origins game was that came out awhile ago, I'll grab it. It's nowhere near that game. Man, that game kicked loving rear end.
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Donde Esta posted:Thoroughly and happily surprised. Trailers looked like utter garbage, but went against my better judgment and it paid off. drat Id be sad if this doesn't happen now.
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Feb 12, 2016 18:04
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LORD OF BUTT posted:It's nowhere near that game. Man, that game kicked loving rear end. Yeah,except for the Trask Labs or whatever level it was,that poo poo dragged on FOREVER.
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Feb 12, 2016 18:05
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I loved the game except the final boss fight. I can handle doing the bosses again and remembering their patterns, doing all three at the same loving time was bullshit and I'm not ashamed to admit that I used CheatEngine to lock my health to full after my umpteenth time losing the bulk of my health seconds into the fight.
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Feb 12, 2016 19:21
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Wade Wilson posted:He's basically an even more evil Darkman with cyborg enhancements to make him even stronger and faster while having no pain perceptions in the comics, not sure what they did for him in the movie as I haven't seen it yet. Wow it's been nearly 10 years since I read most of the Kelly run and completely missed that this wasn't an original character.
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Feb 12, 2016 19:38
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Saw this last night and came away impressed. I don't know why, but Marvel movies - even those to come out of Fox - seem to have better actor:character pairings than their DC counterparts. I'm not sure how much of that is happy coincidence and how much is confirmation bias. Ryan Reynolds's movie persona is already basically Deadpool's; Robert Downey Jr. fits Tony Stark like a glove. It really helps to sell the movie, because the movie is entirely reliant on Deadpool as a character. A lot of cape-and-cowl movies can get by if the actor isn't a spectacular match (I, for one, did not like Bale as Batman at all) by compensating with incredible set pieces or compelling deuteragonists or whatever, but Deadpool was going to live or die based on how well Reynolds could sell us Wade Wilson and he fuckin' nailed it. Action comedies that rely on black humor and absurdity tend to function better if the sociopath at the center (Archer comes to mind immediately) is competent, or even excellent, at whatever his purported job may be; this movie made generally good decisions by allowing the audience to laugh at Deadpool's expense ("... riiight up Main Street..." and the International Women's Day joke) but also depicting Deadpool as a genuinely terrifying combatant and murderer. It makes sense that Colossus would want to recruit him into the X-Men. A lesser movie would have had season-1-of-Archer syndrome. The pacing was perfect when you consider this movie is basically just an origin story punched up with better jokes and a more charming central actor. Reynolds has always been a likable lead, and he's managed to make otherwise-intolerable movies less bad for me (The Proposal sweet Jesus), but he really is in his element as Deadpool. One of his strengths has always been the manner in which he portrays a facade - he oscillates between zany, high-tempo comedy and machinegun punchlines and moments wherein you can see the mask for its brittleness, and he knows you can see it, he's basically just a very articulate faker, but then zoom we're back to the jokes so the pathos simmers again. His character in Adventureland seems like the best parallel for Wade Wilson, to me, incidentally; just, you know, with guns and murder and stuff. Colossus was a good straight man, but I'm looking forward to Cable's inclusion in the sequel, perhaps. Cable works so effectively with Deadpool in the trade paperbacks I've read because he starts at a similarly deadpan focal point as Colossus does in this movie, and it's always a funny surprise when he shows genuine affection for Wade or actually endorses or assists with one of his insane schemes. I loved Cable and Deadpool the most when Deadpool was allowed to be badass, like Cable, and Cable was allowed to be madcap, like Deadpool. Negasonic Teenage Warhead was about as good as you're ever going to get for a character that probably began as "millennials, am I right!?" Morena Baccarin is excellent. TJ Miller is excellent. Ajax/Francis is boring because I think he's supposed to be; he is the least compelling element of the movie, and like most comic book adaptations of villainy he is less of an actual character than he is a narrative signal that the story is going to get dark(er, or dark again). His "what's my name?" gimmick was okay; I didn't find it grating, I guess. The movie spends an appropriate amount of time establishing his motivations, which is to say basically none. This is Deadpool's movie, and they wisely chose to let Reynolds just carry the loving thing. If I had to ascribe an arbitrary score to this film, I'd give it four out of five stars. It's that good. The CGI is cheap but unobtrusive. The jokes are funny. The characters we're supposed to care about, we do. It's as close to flawless an execution of this concept could be, given the players and budget involved. Unironically recommended. Quick hits:
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Better than I expected, and while some of the jokes fell flat, it was funny enough and had a lot of nice little touches, it's actually quite dense in how much it is throwing out at you despite the story being incredibly simple. The opening credit gag is so simple and yet works incredibly effectively to get you into the tone of the movie, very well done.
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guts and bolts posted:[*] Apparently Morena Baccarin's character is a cape in the comic books, which I either forgot about or she features in Cable and Deadpool (my chief exposure to the character) very little In the comics she's Copycat. She's basically Mystique (blue skin shapeshifter mutant) with the added ability to copy powers like Rogue. Her backstory was mostly the same as the movie. She was a prostitute (hiding her true form) and Wade was a merc and they had a thing going on. Wade got cancer and made sure to leave her in order to spare her. She also went on to become a mercenary, but was more of a good guy in the beginning. Deadpool was a pure villain in the early days, so they played it like he was this stalker, abusive ex-boyfriend for a while. She faded into obscurity for a bit and he was revitalized as an interesting antihero with his own book. Since Deadpool was a good guy, they reintroduced Copycat as an obsessed and psychotic ex-girlfriend bent on messing with him and I guess getting him back. Eventually, they reconciled and became a couple again... until the writer was leaving the book and decided to "put the toys back in the box" and have Copycat leave him. The next writer did a story where Sabretooth killed Copycat and she's been mostly forgotten about since then. That was before Cable/Deadpool happened, which is why she's news to you. Coincidentally, the currently storyline in Deadpool's series could very well retcon her death away. Which could be a bit awkward, since Deadpool's currently married.
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