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get that OUT of my face posted:It took all that time to say "oh by the way Sora's been chilling in that suspended animation pod since CoM" (I think). What a payoff. Marvelous storytelling. DiZ and Ansem talked about Sora still being out of commission before Axel even showed up. They talked about Namine's progress with Sora's memories pretty much every time they appeared on screen before this.
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"This character you're playing as? Well he's actually the main character."
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If Roxas has been locked in the Matrix this whole time, how does Axel get in again? get that OUT of my face posted:It took all that time to say "oh by the way Sora's been chilling in that suspended animation pod since CoM" (I think). What a payoff. Marvelous storytelling. The pod shows up at the end of CoM and it's acknowledged that he's going to have to be in there for a while. Hope you played CoM!
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May 28, 2019 19:49
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I just realized something: Namine's superpower is gaslighting people.C-Euro posted:If Roxas has been locked in the Matrix this whole time, how does Axel get in again?
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May 28, 2019 19:56
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Look, it's not Axel's fault you guys don't got it memorized.
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May 28, 2019 20:35
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C-Euro posted:If Roxas has been locked in the Matrix this whole time, how does Axel get in again? It's more Holodeck than Matrix. The whole laboratory complex is right underneath the mansion and town, and the only thing that stopped Roxas from going into the mansion was that he forgot how to use the keyblade.
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May 28, 2019 21:26
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Schubalts posted:It's more Holodeck than Matrix. The whole laboratory complex is right underneath the mansion and town, and the only thing that stopped Roxas from going into the mansion was that he forgot how to use the keyblade. Their plan hinged on him not using a giant key on a giant keyhole? E: I guess he was dumb enough for it to work, but still
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They had brainwashed him, and he only recently regained the keyblade when the wiggly dudes got in and he summoned it in self defense. It still took him a while just to be able to summon it on command after that, and it's not like Sora immediately knew how to magic open world locks, either.
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C-Euro posted:If Roxas has been locked in the Matrix this whole time, how does Axel get in again? Ansem's been making the beach behind Diz's back because this is really much easier than coming up with all these weird justifications why they can't get to the beach and yeah, making a beach introduces a lot of bugs and backdoors into the Matrix.
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this thread is reading like a hate thread but um. kingdom hearts 2 owns i know this is a controversial opinion but this opening is my favorite part of the game and i'd play a whole dang game centered around dumb teens goofing off in a sleepy town on their summer vacation and solving low stakes problems like defending your honor against the rival gang and bullshitting a report because you forgot to do your homework
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Schubalts posted:It's more Holodeck than Matrix. The whole laboratory complex is right underneath the mansion and town, and the only thing that stopped Roxas from going into the mansion was that he forgot how to use the keyblade. I feel like the Twilight Town we've been seeing up to now is a separate place than the actual TT, but I don't think the evidence I'm basing that off of shows up for a while. Might be getting into spoiler turf. Looper posted:this thread is reading like a hate thread but um. kingdom hearts 2 owns Oh I think KH2 slaps, don't get me wrong. I love it for how over-the-top it is and I honestly found the combat to be super satisfying. That Axel fight where you get dual Keyblades feels badass to play.
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Oh I'm down, tedious opening or no. I kinda like the audacity of expecting you to know who these chucklefucks are without explaining anything. Also "Struggle" is not a good name for a tournament.
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Looper posted:this thread is reading like a hate thread but um. kingdom hearts 2 owns A game like that would own. The problem is that KH2 isn't a game like that, nor was anyone expecting it to be a game like that. Everyone was expecting fast action and people shouting SORA DONALD GOOFY and DARKNESS while running around various Disney-inspired worlds. Instead, they get 2˝ hours of a completely different game with seemingly no connection to actual Kingdom Hearts until the very end where it turns out you were Sora all along but not really its complicated ok and no its not just a phase MOM!
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Geemer posted:A game like that would own. The problem is that KH2 isn't a game like that, nor was anyone expecting it to be a game like that. Everyone was expecting fast action and people shouting SORA DONALD GOOFY and DARKNESS while running around various Disney-inspired worlds. Prologue aside that's literally what the game is from here on out.
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Larryb posted:Prologue aside that's literally what the game is from here on out. I know. But past me sure as hell didn't and wasn't gonna chance it after the first 2˝ hours of the game being a very different game.
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I'm not angry about KH2 so far, just very baffled. But that comes with the territory of the Kingdom Hearts storyline. It's a hot mess. That being said, the introductory town shouldn't have been that long. By this time in KH1, you more or less know the basic stakes.
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Larryb posted:Prologue aside that's literally what the game is from here on out. Yeah I went straight from KH1 into this game and never got through this prologue because I assumed the game would continue to be full of characters and plot points that I had no reference for at all. Turns out if I'd stuck with it another half hour I would've got through that, but whatever.
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RareAcumen posted:Ansem and The Burned Man managed to wipe the memories of and imprison one of the Organization members within a digital simulation of a town but it's all falling apart as Sora nears full reanimation and the soul transfer becomes more and more direly required to reboot him. See, when you put it like that it's fairly straightforward and even kinda cool-sounding. Idea for a Thing We Coulda Played Instead of This Section, #127: KH2 opens with us controlling a mysterious hooded figure, working with mysterious character DiZ, as they scheme and have vague conversations and some cool easy tutorial fights with Organization XIII members to kidnap some doofus named Roxas who looks suspiciously familiar. Shocking twist at the end, our mysterious player-character has been Ansem this whole time, holy smokes! They clonk Roxas on the head, stick him in a Downsides: Nomura doesn't get to bill the company for the time he spent doodling up the Popsicle Brigade & Setzer's "redesign." No 'weird virtual world breaking down' effects/scenes/cool trailer shots. Delayed 'climactic dual-wielding moment.' Upsides: Pacing; relevant characters; genuine mystery; an actual sense of who these people are, what they're trying to accomplish, and how. This has been Ghost of Starman's KH2 Fanfiction Korner. I'll just... show myself out. 
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Spending the first 2+ hours of a numerical sequel game controlling an unknown character, interacting with a whole host of other brand new random characters, who is then basically written out and replaced with the expected main character is just bad writing. They should've started you off as Sora, just waking up from reanimation and all confused, experiencing flashbacks of Roxas, Naminé, Axel etc as he stumbles around whatever opening area.
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Ghost of Starman posted:See, when you put it like that it's fairly straightforward and even kinda cool-sounding. Yeah, call me Xenogears 3 because I'm summarizing 8 games of plot in a single eighteen word sentence over here!
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May 30, 2019 10:04
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I'm a fan of how Ghost of Starman laid things out. The general premise of the opening part of KH2 isn't a bad idea at heart, it just needs a lot more editing than it got.
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none of these “ideas on how to improve the intro” seem to involve seifers misadventures so i still proclaim nomura the king of intros
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FutureFriend posted:none of these “ideas on how to improve the intro” seem to involve seifers misadventures so i still proclaim nomura the king of intros
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May 30, 2019 17:26
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The only improvement I have to offer is to put
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The only improvement I would make is swap Setzer for Edgar and just have the creepo womanizer king be the one who gets his rear end handed to him by children.
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Seriously! Why Setzer? Of all the random-rear end ff6 cameos they could have gone for, I can't think of a more boring one than "airship gambler" in a world with no airships OR gambling! Even Cyan or Locke would've had some personality! This had to have been a case of "oh, I have a neat redesign for this one guy that we can't fit in anywhere else - let's use that"
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Ghost of Starman posted:This had to have been a case of "oh, I have a neat redesign for this one guy that we can't fit in anywhere else - let's use that" Close, kinda - as far as I know, Setzer is the one FF6 character that Nomura largely designed instead of Amano.
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AlphaKretin posted:Close, kinda - as far as I know, Setzer is the one FF6 character that Nomura largely designed instead of Amano. He and Shadow
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Ghost of Starman posted:Seriously! Why Setzer? Of all the random-rear end ff6 cameos they could have gone for, I can't think of a more boring one than "airship gambler" in a world with no airships OR gambling! Even Cyan or Locke would've had some personality! because hes cool
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Setzer will be perfect if it turns out there's some postgame Struggle™ battle against Ultros wielding EIGHT Official Struggle™ Batons.
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To my knowledge the single FF character that appears in a KH game that Nomura didn't design was Vivi. From what I understand about Nomura's views on Amano this seems likely to be from a deep respect for Amano and not wanting to touch characters that aren't his.
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FutureFriend posted:because hes cool I guess, if you like your bishonen to look like sufferers of a wasting disease (the correct answer to the question of FF6’s best character is obviously Sabin how is this even under dispute)
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Zanzibar Ham posted:Setzer will be perfect if it turns out there's some postgame Struggle™ battle against Ultros wielding EIGHT Official Struggle™ Batons. That would own. SatansOnion posted:I guess, if you like your bishonen to look like sufferers of a wasting disease Roxas would have to be scraped off the Struggle arena floor after Sabin got done suplexing him to death.
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Black Mage Knight posted:To my knowledge the single FF character that appears in a KH game that Nomura didn't design was Vivi. From what I understand about Nomura's views on Amano this seems likely to be from a deep respect for Amano and not wanting to touch characters that aren't his. Yes, that is why. He wasn't sure if he would be able to write and redesign other people's FF characters in a way that would fit the original, so he focused on using his own FF characters, until the FF parts fell further and further to the wayside.
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lets grow up, stop hanging out with humans and start hanging around the so called Humorous Animals on todays episode   
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just sitting there thinking man the only thing that could make this opening better is Mickey Mouse outta nowhere wearing a hot topic trenchcoat and BAM
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I think it's funny that the first two and a half hours happened and they just abruptly jumped right into the Disney poo poo after five seconds. It's like even the game itself got tired of it after a while Sora had that expression when the Heartless appeared because he also realized that logo looks like a three-tipped dick get that OUT of my face fucked around with this message at 02:58 on Jun 4, 2019 |
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It's a tragedy that fantasy stories keep perpetuating this myth of the 'good king'. Obviously, the only ethical thing for Mickey to do is abolish the monarchy and establish a Magic Republic -- and more importantly, do what his dynasty should have done a long time ago and surrender his personality rights to the public doma
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Chorps the way you say "oh my Gooooddd" in these videos fills me with joy. You sound so excited! 
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