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Jelly posted:Lately on Paramount+ they've been advertising this medicine that stops you from getting HIV. how is there still anyone this naive and sheltered on the internet in tyool 2023
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I take a number of herbal/ayurvedic supplements because they can't be any worse than the last two decade's worth of booze, drugs, and cigarettes I subjected myself to. I take an actual antidepressant, too, because I might be open minded but I'm not entirely ignorant lol
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i dont know if this counts as "alt medicine" but i quit sugar, or rather drastically reduced the amount of sugar i eat outside of occasional fruit, and i feel a lot better. and i wasnt particularly into it in the first place, never had a "sweet tooth", but removing any kind of processed sugar from my diet has been a noticeable change all the same. i know thats something alt medicine types are into and ive certainly never been told to do so by a legit doctor. but it feels good.
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Aug 13, 2023 16:56
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Remember Airborne? Developed by a schoolteacher! My mom was big on that stuff. I guess it helps keep up your vitamin C, if you like overpriced "supplements" that taste like zesty orange rear end
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Aug 13, 2023 17:03
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airborne is just vitamin c and zinc, there's nothing "alternative" about it
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Aug 13, 2023 17:06
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I drink tons of kombucha. But that doesn't seem like it's alt medicine? I never have any gut issues as long as I stay on the straight and vinegar path. I also cut sugar out of my diet majorly and only have it on Fridays / Saturdays. Lol vitamin C is such a loving joke my mother loves to claim how great it is and how many times she's felt sick and drank airborne then felt netter I used to eat vitamin C supplements when I was in my single digit years
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Earwicker posted:airborne is just vitamin c and zinc, there's nothing "alternative" about it Anything that has the magic disclaimer* in size 0.2 typeface on the back of the package is trying to sell you snake oil. *"These statements have not been evaluated by the Food and Drug Administration. This product is not intended to diagnose, treat, cure or prevent any disease."
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McSpanky posted:Remember Airborne? Developed by a schoolteacher! My mom was big on that stuff. I guess it helps keep up your vitamin C, if you like overpriced "supplements" that taste like zesty orange rear end Remember Head On?
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redshirt posted:Remember Head On? Apply directly to the forehead.
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McSpanky posted:Anything that has the magic disclaimer* in size 0.2 typeface on the back of the package is trying to sell you snake oil. of course its snake oil, i'm not saying its beneficial, i'm saying its just a vitamin supplement like any other you can buy in literally any major pharmacy chain in the us, its made by a large publicly traded corporation, there's nothing "alternative" about it, its just good old western corporate snake oil. like no one who takes vitamin c thinks it has magic powers or aligns your chakras or means you dont have to go to the doctor. its something you find in cvs or at the grocery store, not in a special hippy health food store. whether beneficial or not, vitamin supplements are extremely mainstream and very much pushed by the corporate pharma world, not as an "alternative" to it. Earwicker fucked around with this message at 17:25 on Aug 13, 2023 |
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Grey Cat posted:Apply directly to the forehead. APPLY DIRECTLY TO THE FOREHEAD!!!
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bvj191jgl7bBsqF5m posted:it's for men who have sex with men you silly goose I would like to request that the person who reported this post to the mods for being homophobic to show yourself so that I can make fun of you
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Vegetable posted:Come on. You enjoy having chiropractors give you permanent back damage. You might even drink some herbal poo poo on the regular. Post here so we can laugh at you Imagine hating women this much
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bvj191jgl7bBsqF5m posted:I would like to request that the person who reported this post to the mods for being homophobic to show yourself so that I can make fun of you holy poo poo, what?
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Aug 13, 2023 17:51
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Iff you want to get cursed. he had Itaalyt famikly.
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Well grapefruit apparently potentiates my SSRI prescription, so I guess there are random bits of 'natural' bullshit that actually do something.
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Earwicker posted:of course its snake oil, i'm not saying its beneficial, i'm saying its just a vitamin supplement like any other you can buy in literally any major pharmacy chain in the us, its made by a large publicly traded corporation, there's nothing "alternative" about it, its just good old western corporate snake oil. By the same measure chiropractic isn't alternative! I can right now get 20 chiro sessions a year covered by my health insurance, the same health insurance that pays for my family doctor and ER visits and all of that real medical stuff, at a clean modern downtown office by a man with a degree on his wall, not some robed guru in a failing mall or whatever. Anything that isn't orthodox scientifically-derived medical practice but purports to treat or cure a disease is, by definition, alternative.
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We used to box. i like the left hook.
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Dick Fontaine posted:holy poo poo, what? I came home from the raunchy leather bar where a meetup group that I run was hosting a party for a queer film festival and saw that I had a DM from a mod asking if I could clarify the post for them because somebody reported it for being homophobic
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O(f cours I come e swinging will nilly.
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zedprime posted:Yeah I believe in ALT medicine. There's no way a lesbian three-way cures cancer but I'm open to have that administered to me in an effort to prove that it does!
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Lol if you don't believe in alt medicine. It's right there in the shelf at Walgreens. You can see it.
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bvj191jgl7bBsqF5m posted:I came home from the raunchy leather bar where a meetup group that I run was hosting a party for a queer film festival and saw that I had a DM from a mod asking if I could clarify the post for them because somebody reported it for being homophobic 
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McSpanky posted:By the same measure chiropractic isn't alternative! I can right now get 20 chiro sessions a year covered by my health insurance, the same health insurance that pays for my family doctor and ER visits and all of that real medical stuff, at a clean modern downtown office by a man with a degree on his wall, not some robed guru in a failing mall or whatever. lmao. sorry but no, science and logic lost out a while ago. if it's backed by big money and made by publicly traded companies and covered by your insurance, its Normal, and if its something you have to seek out and pay for yourself and they don't want you to know about it, its Alternative. the scientific process itself will be Alternative before long, you'll need brand endorsement for something to be considered True. what determines the validity of medicine is not FDA approval nor what it does to your body, it's how professional the packaging looks. Earwicker fucked around with this message at 18:51 on Aug 13, 2023 |
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Torquemada posted:Well grapefruit apparently potentiates my SSRI prescription, so I guess there are random bits of 'natural' bullshit that actually do something.
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Bro-science and natural/alt poo poo can be correct, it just will be basically by accident because there's not enough data yet to do actual science Go ahead and try whatever if it makes you happy but lol if you forgo actual treatment in favor of it. But there's plenty of poo poo that's just laughable on its face or proven to be complete nonsense and people should probably be discouraged from pushing it on the desperate and gullible
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Imo some chiropractic treatments absolutely work for some specific problems when combined with PT, but the theories and cobbled together tradition are of course hokum. Some of them do have neurological training and view things like somatic dysfunction more from that lens, and less from the lens of sublaxations or voodoo ghosts or whatever.
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"Some chiropractic is actually just massage" I don't mean to be dismissive but man how can a "good" practitioner hitch their wagon to that poo poo It's like the dinner with 11 Nazis principle
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nice obelisk idiot posted:Imo some chiropractic treatments absolutely work for some specific problems when combined with PT, but the theories and cobbled together tradition are of course hokum. Some of them do have neurological training and view things like somatic dysfunction more from that lens, and less from the lens of sublaxations or voodoo ghosts or whatever.
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McSpanky posted:Remember Airborne? Developed by a schoolteacher! My mom was big on that stuff. I guess it helps keep up your vitamin C, if you like overpriced "supplements" that taste like zesty orange rear end I have to give them props for a slogan laser-focused at the target audience. "Ooohhh, a teacher is around germy kids all day, they'd know what to do. Better pop one before my southwest flight to family in dallas." I loled when CVS put their generic version right next to it and it had clearly been run through the lawyers because the name was something like "Aviation-themed herbal capsules that do not do anything"
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maybealabia posted:"Some chiropractic is actually just massage"
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Earwicker posted:lmao. sorry but no, science and logic lost out a while ago. if it's backed by big money and made by publicly traded companies and covered by your insurance, its Normal, and if its something you have to seek out and pay for yourself and they don't want you to know about it, its Alternative. the scientific process itself will be Alternative before long, you'll need brand endorsement for something to be considered True. what determines the validity of medicine is not FDA approval nor what it does to your body, it's how professional the packaging looks. I graciously hand the crown of King of Alt Medicine to you, o wise one.
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nice obelisk idiot posted:I mean basically, but massage therapists or PTs won't do some things that chiros do, for better or for worse (often worse). For example, I needed a good crunch or two in a few spots and it instantly improved my back mobility. PT and medical massage wasn't helping, and they even said if "I was an insured chiropractor I would do X but I can't". What I was trying to say is more like a few chiropractic techniques have a practical benefit that's hard to get elsewhere, rather than that chiropracty is legitimate
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McSpanky posted:I graciously hand the crown of King of Alt Medicine to you, o wise one. you don't have the crown to hand over, and if i had it i wouldn't be sitting here shitposting i'd be on a yacht or whatever
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WAR CRIME GIGOLO posted:
I finally had enough of the bullshit and decided to cut vitamin C out of my diet a while ago. Surprise surprise I feel completely fine, except for my gums bleeding and being kinda tired.
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Crespolini posted:I finally had enough of the bullshit and decided to cut vitamin C out of my diet a while ago. like you stopped taking vitamin C supplements or you stopped eating any food that had vitamin C in it? there's nothing wrong with vitamins in and of themselves, they are naturally occurring in all kinds of healthy foods, its just much better to get them in your actual diet instead of taking supplements
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Vegetable posted:The chiro almost definitely hosed up your back in ways that you just dont feel right now. Theres a reason licensed medical practitioners dont do that poo poo. You didnt just discover some loophole in the medical system.
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Earwicker posted:like you stopped taking vitamin C supplements or you stopped eating any food that had vitamin C in it? Cold turkey. Thought it was going to be way more of a pain than it was, but once you sit down and start planing your meals you find you can still actually eat most things. All kinds of meat, obviously, but also bread, rice, and pasta for instance. The only carbs you really have to be careful with are potatoes. If you find there's vegetables you just can't do without, sufficient heat treatment will destroy the C anyway, so it's just a question being thorough.
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nice obelisk idiot posted:They didn't per my orthopedic doctor. Once again, chiropracty is not legitimate. However, I think that a rigorous discipline fulfilling a similar role that contains elements of PT, physiology, somatic therapy, massage, and neurology would be immensely beneficial to people's physical and mental health, and it's a shame that people fall back on quackery because it's the only thing available and covered by insurance. i mean, there is regular non-chiropractic massage that is covered by insurance, it might not be super common but i don't think its that rare either? i know some sports massage type places that accept insurance. PT too. i get what you are saying and the insurance companies are absolutely assholes, but chiropractics is not at all the only thing available
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ALt Medicine isn't total bullshit if you consider diets part of alt medicine. I mean you can go on a gluten free diet for Crohn's Disease and your symptoms will get better. Not sure if that counts as alt medicine though.
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