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Martials been there for 8 years lmao
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Dec 11, 2023 15:31
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He got hosed by injuries and played into the ground while he still had em instead of being given a decent recovery, pretty rich trying to pressure him into loving off with anonymous PR instead of letting see out his last few months. Scummy clubquote:I regularly played injured, remembers Martial. People don't know, I couldn't accelerate during the four months that followed the Covid season. The coach tells me that he needs me, so I play. But, given my game, if I can't accelerate, it becomes very complicated anyway. And I got burned... The coach never bothered to tell the media. Obviously, I ended up getting injured for good and when I came back, finished, I didn't play anymore. I took it very badly, I had a feeling of injustice, you are asked to sacrifice yourself for the team and then you are pushed aside. For me, it's almost treachery, it's everything I hate." mila kunis fucked around with this message at 15:46 on Dec 11, 2023 |
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Dec 11, 2023 15:42
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I'm sure a poo poo flinging battle in the press will do a world of good for Utd. "We want rid of these players we don't like, they're poo poo, please make a good offer", negotiating genius at work.
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Dec 11, 2023 16:01
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Feel like someone will pick Sancho up as long as he doesn't do the full Bogarde and decide to sit out his full contract/try to outlive ten hag
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Dec 11, 2023 16:07
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He gets some game time but is wearing a fluorescent starburst tag with a price on while a market trader stands on the side
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Dec 11, 2023 16:13
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the sex ghost posted:Feel like someone will pick Sancho up as long as he doesn't do the full Bogarde and decide to sit out his full contract/try to outlive ten hag He's supposedly on like 300k/week which is an awful lot to ask for a guy who now has "disciplinary problems???" circled in red on every scouting report. I'm looking into my crystal ball and seeing a repeat of the Maguire/West Ham stuff from last summer where everybody wanted the deal to happen but the money at Man U was just too good to give up.
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Dec 11, 2023 16:43
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vyelkin posted:A no quotes article in the Guardian claims Man U want to sell a long list of players: Casemiro, Varane, Sancho, Martial, and Van de Beek, because United need to sell before they can buy now due to FFP. It also notes that selling most of these players will be problematic because they either make huge money or are old or both. And Martial's contract is up this summer so he doesn't have much incentive to leave in January when he could probably get a bigger contract signing somewhere on a free. i hope those guys refuse to go to saudi arabia
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Dec 11, 2023 18:16
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mila kunis posted:He got hosed by injuries and played into the ground while he still had em instead of being given a decent recovery, pretty rich trying to pressure him into loving off with anonymous PR instead of letting see out his last few months. Scummy club He’s probably the player who got hosed the most by every new manager bringing in some stopgap forward. Ibrahimovic, Lukaku, Alexis, Falcao, Oghalo, Weghorst, even Ronaldo. He stopped getting consistent games and has never really regained that form
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Dec 11, 2023 18:21
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He could, you know, just leave. He sticks around because no one will pony up for his massive wages. I don’t think he needs any sympathy.
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Dec 11, 2023 18:26
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Vegetable posted:He could, you know, just leave. He sticks around because no one will pony up for his massive wages. I don’t think he needs any sympathy. why the hell would he give up on that contract
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Dec 11, 2023 18:48
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I think that was my point
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Dec 11, 2023 18:54
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Vegetable posted:He could, you know, just leave. He sticks around because no one will pony up for his massive wages. I don’t think he needs any sympathy. You understand how transfers work, yes?
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Dec 11, 2023 19:05
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My point is he could just accept less money and leave if he was unhappy. There’s no need to pity him. He didn’t get “hosed” by his managers.
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Dec 11, 2023 19:13
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Vegetable posted:My point is he could just accept less money and leave if he was unhappy. There’s no need to pity him. He didn’t get “hosed” by his managers. I don’t think Shrapnig actually feels sorry for Martial, OP. He’s just pointing out that his development got stunted by United clown car transfer policies.
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Dec 11, 2023 19:30
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Mauricio Pochettino eyes top striker as Chelsea look to transfer market again quote:Mauricio Pochettino’s hopes of strengthening his squad in January are likely to depend on Chelsea making space for signings by embarking on another clearout. Please bro just one more billion bro. I promise bro it's different this time, one more striker will fix everything bro. Just one more bro, i can fix the team bro. Bro just a couple more midfielders is all we need bro, I promise bro.
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Dec 11, 2023 20:09
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A few more transfers along the lines of paying £100m for Caicedo will fix Chelsea This chart is very funny https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/67681960 
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Dec 11, 2023 20:27
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Thanks Ants posted:A few more transfers along the lines of paying £100m for Caicedo will fix Chelsea why are brighton behind newcastle on this chart lol
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Dec 11, 2023 20:59
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Calendar year Edit: Oh lol the bar, I've no idea. I didn't look at it any closer than was needed to confirm Chelsea are indeed funny.
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Dec 11, 2023 21:02
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The BBC received a brown envelope to push Newcastle up the table
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Dec 11, 2023 21:04
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They've sorted it by points-per-game but then displayed it with just points, which is very stupid. https://www.twtd.co.uk/league-tables/competition:premier-league/daterange/fromdate:2022-Dec-31/todate:2024-Jun-01/type:home-and-away/ This is the source table if anyone cares as much as I clearly do. Also Chelsea bad lol.
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Dec 11, 2023 21:57
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Vegetable posted:He could, you know, just leave. He sticks around because no one will pony up for his massive wages. I don’t think he needs any sympathy. he did also get six months at Sevilla to put himself in the shop window you can add your own narrator's voice
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Dec 12, 2023 00:08
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MUFC Problem Player Cycle: 1. Fresh Start 2. Early Success 3. Heavy Defeat 4. Team Under Pressure 5. Accused by Roy Keane of ''Lacking Desire" 6. Blamed and Benched 7.a) Manager Sacked 7.b) Injury To Overpaid Aging Superstar 8. Repeat Sancho is already on step 6, so if he can just stay at the club through the January window, he'll be fine. Martial is probably going to end up at Chelsea since that would be the most hilarious outcome.
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Dec 12, 2023 01:49
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Turns out he was right. https://www.theguardian.com/football/2023/dec/12/howard-webb-admits-simon-hooper-made-mistake-in-citys-draw-with-spurs
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Dec 13, 2023 10:28
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Shrapnig posted:Turns out he was right. Yeah, Hooper was right that comedy was the necessary outcome
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Dec 13, 2023 12:24
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Thanks Ants posted:There's no getting away from their Champions League performance being terrible, but I think a lot of the press were ready for ETH to be sacked in October and are now trying to wish it into being. It's really close at the top end of the table - ten points covers 1st to 7th, last season by week 15 that would only have covered 1st to 4th. Honestly I still don't get Ten Hag out. He has won the carbao cup, made the fa cup final, finished 3rd last season. He is currently higher in the league than Eddie Howe but Eddie Howe is considered a genius. Newcastle also finished bottom of their group, of course it was a harder group but I feel like Onana really by himself ruined their UCL run. How can we blame Ten Hag for buying the UCL goal keeper of the year and then the guy turns out to completely choke out of his mind? The media are just very anti Ten Hag. Whether it's his foreign accent or the media calling him robotic. It's just stupidity. Pochettino and Eddie Howe are both doing worse but they have 0 pressure on them. Poch spend 300m?and Howe has the richest club in the world. Not saying Poch or Howe(they both have had good results vs top teams) deserve the sack but its weird the media just ignores them. Ulio fucked around with this message at 18:53 on Dec 14, 2023 |
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Dec 14, 2023 18:51
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We could maybe blame Ten Hag for making Onana one of his top transfer targets because he insisted the club needed a keeper who fits his preferred style of play and wanted Onana (a player he knew from their time together at Ajax) for that, in the process driving out a keeper who was not good with his feet but was a very good shot stopper, and then just watching in horror and changing nothing as his new signing turned out to be a very bad shot stopper.
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Dec 14, 2023 19:01
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More to the point though, I feel like people are mad at Ten Hag because they expected this season would be a step forward from last season when they finished third, made two finals, and won one of them. It's his second season and his first seemed like a step in the right direction to Man U fans, and now he's had the real chance to sign more of his own preferred players like Onana or Mount, get rid of some players he thought were holding the team back like Ronaldo, and really continue building the club in his own image the way visionary managers get to do... and the result is they've taken a big step backwards. People expected improvement and instead they haven't even got treading water, they've gotten worse.
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Dec 14, 2023 19:06
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vyelkin posted:More to the point though, I feel like people are mad at Ten Hag because they expected this season would be a step forward from last season when they finished third, made two finals, and won one of them. It's his second season and his first seemed like a step in the right direction to Man U fans, and now he's had the real chance to sign more of his own preferred players like Onana or Mount, get rid of some players he thought were holding the team back like Ronaldo, and really continue building the club in his own image the way visionary managers get to do... and the result is they've taken a big step backwards. People expected improvement and instead they haven't even got treading water, they've gotten worse. It feels less like a rebuild and more like Solskjaer again
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Dec 14, 2023 19:16
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Ulio posted:Honestly I still don't get Ten Hag out. He has won the carbao cup, made the fa cup final, finished 3rd last season. He is currently higher in the league than Eddie Howe but Eddie Howe is considered a genius. Newcastle also finished bottom of their group, of course it was a harder group but I feel like Onana really by himself ruined their UCL run. How can we blame Ten Hag for buying the UCL goal keeper of the year and then the guy turns out to completely choke out of his mind? bald apologism shoud be a bannable offence
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Dec 14, 2023 19:21
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They need a good transfer window. Maguire/Evans/Varane is a weird center back situation, McTominay shouldn’t be starting and Antony is obviously a dud. And then there’s Onana. Honestly the more I look at it, the more that squad seems trash and I’m pretty surprised they’ve done as decently in the league as they have.
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Dec 14, 2023 19:23
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Ulio posted:Honestly I still don't get Ten Hag out. He has won the carbao cup, made the fa cup final, finished 3rd last season. He is currently higher in the league than Eddie Howe but Eddie Howe is considered a genius. Newcastle also finished bottom of their group, of course it was a harder group but I feel like Onana really by himself ruined their UCL run. How can we blame Ten Hag for buying the UCL goal keeper of the year and then the guy turns out to completely choke out of his mind? It's a combination of the press desperately needing any kind of copy that involves Manchester United in any way and then getting upset that nothing comes of the massive drama they've built up plus a bunch of Liverpool fans texting in to the BBC feed on a Tuesday night to explain why United aren't a big club any more but that it's still somehow very important to ragetweet every game they play in a competition Liverpool didn't qualify for
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Dec 14, 2023 19:36
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I think it's because Manchester united play like poo poo and they've lost half their games this season and finished last in a champions league group that had danish and Turkish teams in it, OP
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Dec 14, 2023 19:42
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mila kunis posted:I think it's because Manchester united play like poo poo and they've lost half their games this season and finished last in a champions league group that had danish and Turkish teams in it, OP
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Dec 14, 2023 19:46
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but yes I did a little lol at all the Brave Plucky Toon Underdogs articles despite them also finishing last and getting beaten at home by a team whose best midfielder Newcastle bought for 70m that dismal shower at Old Trafford could learn a thing or two from them
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Dec 14, 2023 19:49
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i am somewhat sympathetic to keeping ten Hag as i think the problems solely due to him are relatively small compared to those he's inherited. plus injuries. on the other hand, these things don't really justify the pasting at home to bournemouth or that lifeless performance against a fairly docile bayern to keep themselves in europe. in conclusion manchester is a land of contrasts and he still has a job because sacking him doesn't actually fix anything appendix: based on his public defense of overmars and keeping antony in the squad i think he's a wrongun appendix 2: bald
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Dec 14, 2023 19:50
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mila kunis posted:I think it's because Manchester united play like poo poo and they've lost half their games this season and finished last in a champions league group that had danish and Turkish teams in it, OP Yeah, the UCL is the damning one. Sure, Munich were always going to win that group, but there is really no excuse for a team with the resources of MU to finish bottom.
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Dec 14, 2023 19:52
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It was a good attempt. Hire a bald manager and buy a tall scandinavian striker. That should work.
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Dec 14, 2023 20:03
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mila kunis posted:I think it's because Manchester united play like poo poo and they've lost half their games this season and finished last in a champions league group that had danish and Turkish teams in it, OP
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Dec 14, 2023 20:03
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Brendan Rodgers posted:It was a good attempt. Hire a bald manager and buy a tall scandinavian striker. That should work. Christmas break will be devoted to creating large straw copies of successful players and presenting them in jungle clearings
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