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this movie looked ridiculous. is it really played straight and supposed to be taken seriously?
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Pitdragon posted:this movie looked ridiculous. is it really played straight and supposed to be taken seriously? yeah, it does it's own future-sci-fi-western thing straight up and stands on its own, while still drawing on attachment you have for these actors in these roles- the acting is excellent work from some very capable actors (including, improbably, the 11-year old child actor) you will (probably) feel legitimate feelings about the 200-year old angry man with the knife hands and his mentor, the world's most powerful psychic it's still a genre film, but that genre isn't "comic book movie" the way most people think about them
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Mar 6, 2017 00:51
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SpiritOfSanDimas posted:Superhero movies are inherently terrible, there will never, ever be a good superhero movie. Taxi Driver was a pretty good superhero movie
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Mar 6, 2017 01:08
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The best thing about this movie is that it gave gently caress all about any of the other X-Men movies and basically killed off that poo poo
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Mar 6, 2017 01:18
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Space Crabs posted:Stereotypical badguy villan launches into a speech about how he put something in the food and water that eliminated mutation that stopped any new mutants from being born, so the regular ones died off. the ones that didn't die off got blown up by professor x's incredible senility you have to sympathize with the bad guys in this film; they're doing a good thing by trying to stop the gross old man who accidentally murders everyone around him if he doesn't take his meds
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Mar 6, 2017 01:20
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i looked this up on the marvel website and lol Height:5 ft. 3 in. Weight: (without adamantium skeleton) 200 lbs., (with adamantium skeleton) 300 lbs. Eyes: Blue Hair: Black
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Mar 6, 2017 01:39
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OXBALLS DOT COM posted:i looked this up on the marvel website and lol Yeah, Wolvie is as short if not shorter than Tom Cruise
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Mar 6, 2017 02:56
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He is just constantly dump-crouching in the comics so you never see him standing up straight next to anyone
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Mar 6, 2017 07:42
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OXBALLS DOT COM posted:i looked this up on the marvel website and lol Fun trivia: X-23 (grown up) is the shortest adult Marvel heroine. Not counting off brand poo poo like Micronauts I guess.
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Mar 6, 2017 07:49
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How do wolferines claws work? Are they in his forearms? So they pass up through his wrist before extending out his knuckles... Can he bend his wrist while this is happening? Are there little tunnels for the blades between his wrist bones? Wrists are really complex and dense how is there space for three huge blades to go sliding past. What the heck disney
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Mar 6, 2017 09:21
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Hey OP I saw this movie and it was good
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Mar 6, 2017 09:27
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Bust Rodd posted:Coming home from it now, it's at least as good as Iron Man 1 or Spider-Man 2, not as entertaining as Deadpool. I'd say probably #5 top comic movies, but I really don't think it's fair to say it transcends the genre or anything. There is a very obvious 30 minute chunk that should have gotten cut to reduce run time down to 2 hours. Patrick Stewart got to do more things with the Xavier in this movie than just the Martin Luther King and father figure he's been in every other movie , given the degenerative disease affecting the character, and the harm he'd inadvertently caused, Really liked him.
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Mar 6, 2017 09:50
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OXBALLS DOT COM posted:i looked this up on the marvel website and lol When they did the Ultimate universe (pretty much a Marvel universe made from scratch giving the opportunity to tell Marvel stories with the usual characters without the ridiculous bullshit from 50 years ago dogging the characters and allowing things to happen to versions of the characters that could never happen in 616 - like Peter Parker dying) they made him 5'9. Despite 616 Logan having a better healing factor, I suspect he'd trade places with his Ultimate version to not be a midget.
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Mar 6, 2017 09:53
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why is that dinosaur covered in cum
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Mar 6, 2017 10:08
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a 200 pound midget would look absolutely ridiculous If he weighs 300 pounds with the metal skeleton, then his muscles wouldn't be able to support him either jeez, these loving comic books cant get anything right
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Mar 6, 2017 10:36
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I watched this movie in Jamaica and the theater started cheering when the chubby black kid was running away from the bad men. When he fell down, the audience audibly 'aw'-ed and laughed. It was a good movie-viewing experience.
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Mar 6, 2017 13:42
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Neurosis posted:When they did the Ultimate universe (pretty much a Marvel universe made from scratch giving the opportunity to tell Marvel stories with the usual characters without the ridiculous bullshit from 50 years ago dogging the characters and allowing things to happen to versions of the characters that could never happen in 616 - like Peter Parker dying) they made him 5'9. Despite 616 Logan having a better healing factor, I suspect he'd trade places with his Ultimate version to not be a midget. Why do you know the precise height of a cartoon character in two separate made up worlds
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Mar 6, 2017 14:48
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Ugh I just googled "How does Wolverine bend his wrists and elbows" and the loving neck beard tsunami of trading card and comic book nerds frothing about how the metal plated Samurai dog man isn't anatomically possible no matter how you really think about it gave me a fuckin' nosebleed. I don't think it's a stretch to assume Wolverine's muscle density is mutagenically enhanced, which is how they might support the extra 100 lbs of Adamantium plating and his height makes sense given that he was born in the 1880s, but he (and all the X-Men) are categorically ridiculous.
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Mar 6, 2017 14:57
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Trunko posted:Why do you know the precise height of a cartoon character in two separate made up worlds probably the same reason you're posting on a dying obscure internet forum (hint: i'm a loving nerd)
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Mar 6, 2017 14:59
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Really, how can Icarus even fly with those wax wings. What bullshit!
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Mar 6, 2017 15:02
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The movie manages to be good, but so many pieces of it left me confused. What precisely where Xavier and Logan trying to do? Buy a boat? To go...what, die on the high seas? What? The villains also kinda sucked. I guess everyone's happy they didn't have a bunch of other comic characters in it, but I mean, they could have done more to give Wolverine an antagonist than some redneck rear end in a top hat who gets punked by the Whitest Kid You Know and also some literal actual children.
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Mar 6, 2017 15:03
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Someone PLEASE signal when it's ok to start posting all the poo poo they did wrong. I went with my buddy who has written and directed some kinda big Hollywood dramas and comedies, and he liked it but we both had plenty of beef with it.
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Mar 6, 2017 15:07
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Bust Rodd posted:Someone PLEASE signal when it's ok to start posting all the poo poo they did wrong. I went with my buddy who has written and directed some kinda big Hollywood dramas and comedies, and he liked it but we both had plenty of beef with it. 
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Mar 6, 2017 15:29
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8-Bit Scholar posted:The movie manages to be good, but so many pieces of it left me confused. What precisely where Xavier and Logan trying to do? Buy a boat? To go...what, die on the high seas? What? gently caress, man Like, sex with eachother
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Mar 6, 2017 15:30
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INTO THE rear end
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Mar 6, 2017 15:31
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Stare into the assbyss
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Mar 6, 2017 15:31
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8-Bit Scholar posted:The movie manages to be good, but so many pieces of it left me confused. What precisely where Xavier and Logan trying to do? Buy a boat? To go...what, die on the high seas? What? probably so the next time xavier has a senility attack no one will die, except a shitload of dolphins
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Mar 6, 2017 15:47
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Bust Rodd posted:Someone PLEASE signal when it's ok to start posting all the poo poo they did wrong. I went with my buddy who has written and directed some kinda big Hollywood dramas and comedies, and he liked it but we both had plenty of beef with it.
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Mar 6, 2017 15:47
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A single issue comic with a ghost ship floating on the high seas that everyone stays away from to avoid psychic death sounds pretty good.
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Mar 6, 2017 16:16
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the movie 'logan' would be improved by calling it 'gungan' instead and he's not a human anymore but a gungan mutant
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Mar 6, 2017 16:19
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Captain Invictus posted:I didn't know your were friends with M night shamalan. he's his brother, N Day Shyamalan
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Mar 6, 2017 16:19
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Disclaimer: I liked this film a lot, I'd give a SOLID 7/10 and would recommend it to fans of any other Marvel films ~Given that the movie establishes Logan has no beef carving up dudes who gently caress with him, there has to be a better way to make money for him than being a loving limo driver ~Where did all of Xavier's money go? How does a rusty water tower protect him from psychic interference? ~We are given a threadbare non-explanation for Wolverine's healing factor being all hosed up and it functions exactly as well as the plot needs it to right up until they give him a LITERAL MAGIC POTION that reverts him from Diet Wolverine to Classic Wolverine (the sequence where he is chain-mauling dudes in the Yukon in a bloody tank top was worth the cost of the matinee ticket alone, however, so *shrug*) ~How does a nurse from Mexico get in touch with the Canadian border hopping mutant 'coyotes' who are supposedly sympathetic to the mutant cause despite them not having existed for like 20 years? These nameless, faceless macguffins hiding out in Canada don't make sense, but neither does having an outpost in the middle of Dakota based on GPS coordinates from a comic book... ~Charles Xavier, Horse Whisperer ~The black family was as good as dead the second they hit the screen. This scene drags on and on and is so painfully telegraphed that it just comes off as tragedy porn. "We, a small town folksy family fighting against BIG CORN, open up our fabulous farmhouse mansion to you while discussing our hopes and dreams. Someday we'll even go on VACATION like city folks!" They could have just gotten tracked by Kalaban to the highway, had the robo trucks drive them off the side, and then have them camp out, where they get jumped by Clone-verine. Like, Logan goes to take a piss and you can still have the 'sneak-in and kill you' scene. This doesn't drive up the stakes anymore, it just drags out the movie. You could have established "what life could have been like" in dozens of ways (camping under the stars) but this just felt awful to watch and Charles Xavier used to be one of the smartest and most powerful psychics on the planet but he can't seem to figure out that maybe the snake-in the grass gold toothed cyborg was lying about killing their extremely useful mutant tracking friend? ~Switching out Bad Guys halfway through the movie is just bad writing, IMO. Gold Tooth Robo-Hands was a great villain with lots of personality, but he gets shunted to the background once the scientist and Clone-verine show up and he doesn't even have any line in the 2nd half of the movie, and then he is killed by GRASS! Just make him the Weapon X scientist guy's son and make him maybe a little jealous & scared of Clone-verine ~Criminally underused army of child killer mutants. X-23 was hyper badass, but aren't they all from the same program? Why are they all out of shape and scared but she's a slaughterhouse with a gymnast body? You could make the argument that her physiology and instincts are part of her X-gene but... ~Kalaban going from punk bitch to suicide bomber was cool but like why not just force them to shoot you back in Mexico? What changes for him between Mexico and Oklahoma? ~The only thing that can stop Wolverine is a younger, dumber Wolverine! Unless the older, smarter Wolverine with 100+ years of combat training could somehow gain the upper hand ~A loving treestump is what takes out Wolverine? How does this even go through his Adamantium ribcage? What the fuckin' gently caress ~"Ok sweetie, in this scene your dad is ded and you're like really really sad... no I need more snot... More snot honey... No, I need like a sad booger fountain... there we go" ~Her giving the eulogy in English when she and all the children present are born/raised in Mexico was lame as hell and they could have just used subtitles tastefully and it would have been just as impactful and made sense and sounded better Those are the nitpicks that stayed with us on the drive home, but again, we both liked it a lot, but sometimes I feel like the thing the differentiates comic book films from more traditional action-fantasy movies besides the IP usage is that sloppy writing just gets hand-waved away constantly and it makes me wonder if anyone ever stops and says "I know this movie is based on a series of impossible things, but this doesn't make sense WITHIN the consistent framework of the story we're trying to tell"
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Bust Rodd posted:Someone PLEASE signal when it's ok to start posting all the poo poo they did wrong. I went with my buddy who has written and directed some kinda big Hollywood dramas and comedies, and he liked it but we both had plenty of beef with it. Maybe take that poo poo to CineD bruh. Last thing I want in MY GBS is Nancy boy nerd bullshit pedantry
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Bust Rodd posted:Disclaimer: I liked this film a lot, I'd give a SOLID 7/10 and would recommend it to fans of any other Marvel films
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Mar 6, 2017 18:49
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Zzulu posted:gently caress, man I'd watch this
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Mar 6, 2017 22:06
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It was good except for the loving stupid cell phone video
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Mar 6, 2017 22:09
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I know it shouldn't necessarily be treated any different than any other cross-media movie, such as novel adaptations, but for some reason when people give their opinions about comic book movies and then get into the details in the comic books I completely shut off from what they're saying. Maybe it's because A: who gives a poo poo and B: there are like 5000 different comic books out there that contradict each other. In a similar vein, it's funny/sad how all the youtube piles of human clickbait geek garbage are making videos like "All the easter eggs in Logan! Things you missed!" or "The ending of Logan EXPLAINED!" like they got secretly tricked into seeing a good movie that can stand on its own merits but can't parse that with the part of their brain that shits out Marvel/Batman/Geekcrate videos. Here's my take on the ending of Logan: he died and the movie ended, because it's a work of fiction that follows a standard story arc that spans one movie
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To that one guy's long screed, I have prepared a response about the movie. The kids going to Canada are pursuing after something that doesn't exist in reality. The nurse gave them false hope maybe because of her knowledge of her assumption of a sympathetic government or coalition in Canada. They are creating their reality from the myths and heroes that they idolize. The way I read it they are creating Eden, they will be carving out their own little piece of peace on the other side of Canada. But that's just my reading, and I don't have anything to really say there is or isn't a Canadian Mutant Refugee camp. This also goes to your point about the coordinates from the comic book. The nurse was ESL and couldn't communicate the nuance to the not-very-bright Logan that she had used the comic books she shared with the kids to identify a spot where they could regroup. She might also hide that information because she suspected Logan wouldn't take it seriously (she also lied about other things to him). The comic books serving ideal versions of these characters and Logan's struggle with that I found really compelling. THE OTHER THING, is that albino man was on-board under the assumption Xavier would be allowed to live (I might be misremembering that too). After all, they only wanted the girl, right? He's dumb to believe them, but they're also torturing the dude so idk. After Xavier's dead, he has a road to damascus moment and realizes these villains are just assholes And didn't they heavily hint that adamantium had gotten to a point it was poisoning him? I remember the closest they got to making it explicit was in that urgent care center. Give it 4/5 bubs and would watch again.
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RideTheSpiral posted:Gbs is incapable of making GBS threads on superhero films because it inevitably turns into an earnest discussion of superhero films
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Movie was good but I mean, it's like a bit of corn in the Marvel movie poo poo pile. It had a vision, but all the pieces are poorly thought out.
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