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Cubone posted:it sounds like if it were up to you he would have been able to go to college without becoming a blood sacrifice to lockheed martin's profit margins, so I think we're mostly in agreement. I just have to beg your understanding for not taking part in the farce of shedding crocodile tears while one hand is turning the crank of the meat grinder we fed him into Yeah I just think it's kinda gauche to cheer the death of troops when plenty of them got suckered into it. Most are regular people who signed their lives away as part of a cruel bait and switch, not some kind of bloodcrazed crusader. E: I still find their deaths sad cause my soul hasn't withered and died yet but yours might have and that's cool too namaste Have Blue fucked around with this message at 22:09 on Nov 15, 2017 |
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Most soldiers are poor people with no other options and what is hosed is that we dangle military service in front of them as a way to get stuff like an education or stable income.
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COMRADES posted:Most soldiers are poor people with no other options and what is hosed is that we dangle military service in front of them as a way to get stuff like an education or stable income. Nah. American soldiers are relatively wealthy, well-educated, and do not choose to serve as any kind of a last resort.
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COMRADES posted:My health insurance is going up so that's good and cool. Mine went up for the past three years. There must have been some kind of bill that passed before Trump became president or something.
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I've only been paying for healthcare for the past two years so I don't really have a frame of reference. Probably getting my hosed up the rear end with a rusty pole but ignorance is bliss.
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I digitized my consciousness and now live as a digital ghost on the net. The server/rd costs are still less than health care for my filthy meat body.
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OXBALLS DOT COM posted:Lol just google "list of people donny trumb called fat" its not like he calls a lot of people fat.
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He made me decide to buy guns again, despite taking medication for depression and other probable mental issues that haven't been officially diagnosed. Sleep well, America.
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Kthulhu5000 posted:He made me decide to buy guns again, despite taking medication for depression and other probable mental issues that haven't been officially diagnosed. i don't really go out in public much myself so have fun 
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spacetoaster posted:Nah. American soldiers are relatively wealthy, well-educated, and do not choose to serve as any kind of a last resort. So I looked this up and as per page 26 of this document , it checks out.
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spacetoaster posted:Nah. American soldiers are relatively wealthy, well-educated, and do not choose to serve as any kind of a last resort. I mean I'm not gonna inundate you with graphs here unless you want me to but among enlisted service members, minorities are overrepresented (relative to proportions in the civilian population) and ~80% of members have a High School diploma or less. Among officers, minorities are underrepresented and over 80% have at least a Bachelor's degree. And obviously we're talking about enlisted here not officers yeah? Vaginal Vagrant posted:So I looked this up and as per page 26 of this document , it checks out. quote:Because household or family income is not collected from the families or households lol  Poorest regions of the country get the most recruits and 80% of recruits have only a high school degree but yeah they were definitely going to be making just as much if not more in the private sector. Definitely would have gotten free college without the GI bill... somehow. COMRADES fucked around with this message at 23:05 on Nov 15, 2017 |
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And demographics aside "free college or pay tens of thousands of dollars in loans and interests" is wildly attractive even to middle class families and it is still just as lovely and predatory.
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COMRADES posted:
They probably probably would make more if they became a plumber or worked in HVAC. I always forget you bourgeois commies think everyone needs to spend their money on a 4 year degree straight out of high school before they even know what they actually want to do.
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calvin coolidge was a racist monster and mike pence is his second coming
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Yes the unemployed dude is gonna find the cash for technical college
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Well there are about 1.3 million enlisted and about another 800,000 in the reserves and about 500,000 plumbers so yeah sure that'll work out fine. The military is a jobs and subsidy program lol if you don't get that.
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The military provides free education healthcare and food. If you're a foreign national you can serve as a way to get us citizenship. The only catch is that your life may end suddenly in a middle eastern ditch
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COMRADES posted:I mean I'm not gonna inundate you with graphs here unless you want me to but among enlisted service members, minorities are overrepresented (relative to proportions in the civilian population) and ~80% of members have a High School diploma or less. Among officers, minorities are underrepresented and over 80% have at least a Bachelor's degree. Incorrect. The military as a whole has higher test scores and possesses a higher average education level that the population writ large. Even if you exclude the officers corps where a bachelors degree is a minimum requirement for line, advanced degrees are required for most staff, and graduate coursework is needed for promotion, there is a 20% high school drop out rate in this country which is a disqualifier (unless you have a GED and some college) and of those who graduate high school, many can't pass the ASVAB. I'm not saying everyone in the military is a genius. But you civilians are pretty loving stupid.
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Or you kys when drugs can't tamp down on the ptsd anymore
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spacetoaster posted:Incorrect. The military as a whole has higher test scores and possesses a higher average education level that the population writ large. Even if you exclude the officers corps where a bachelors degree is a minimum requirement for line, advanced degrees are required for most staff, and graduate coursework is needed for promotion, there is a 20% high school drop out rate in this country which is a disqualifier (unless you have a GED and some college) and of those who graduate high school, many can't pass the ASVAB. I'm not saying everyone in the military is a genius. But you civilians are pretty loving stupid. Normal brain: be a civ Glowing brain: be an officer Galaxy brain: enlist as a grunt
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Trump got me to quit looking at social media and that might be the greatest gift of all.
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bongwizzard posted:Trump got me to quit looking at social media and that might be the greatest gift of all. social media only started being good after he became president though
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spacetoaster posted:I'm not saying everyone in the military is a genius. But you civilians are pretty loving stupid. I'm not arguing stupid or smart, I'm arguing that the military is predatory in nature by offering free college and a stable income to young people with a high school degree and lovely options. It's not a coincidence that it recruits more easily in areas where there is more endemic poverty but again even a middle class white kid facing the option of go join the army for a few years or take out massive student loans is being boned. You shouldn't need to go roll the dice in a foreign land for the profits of Dick Cheney in order to go to college. COMRADES fucked around with this message at 23:27 on Nov 15, 2017 |
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pop fly to McGillicutty posted:Millionaire Finally a new joke at least
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Kthulhu5000 posted:He made me decide to buy guns again, despite taking medication for depression and other probable mental issues that haven't been officially diagnosed. Most mentally ill people are not violent or dangerous. Way to spread the stigma there, bud
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COMRADES posted:I'm not arguing stupid or smart, I'm arguing that the military is predatory in nature by offering free college and a stable income to young people with a high school degree and lovely options. Don't forget the stuff you said about minorities too.
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Moridin has a preternatural ability to fixate on the least relevant approach to any subject it's really quite impressive
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OXBALLS DOT COM posted:Moridin has a preternatural ability to fixate on the least relevant approach to any subject it's really quite impressive au·tism [ˈôˌtizəm] NOUN a mental condition, present from early childhood, characterized by difficulty in communicating and forming relationships with other people and in using language and abstract concepts.
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spacetoaster posted:Don't forget the stuff you said about minorities too. I said that proportionate to the population, minorities are overrepresented in enlisted numbers and underrepresented in officer numbers. iirc the Navy is the worst offender with only 1 of 10 or 11 officers being not white. Is that wrong?
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lol at gangstalking and bullying Moridin. shouldn't there be a steam game yall should be on anyhow o_O
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OXBALLS DOT COM posted:Most mentally ill people are not violent or dangerous. Way to spread the stigma there, bud Pfeh, as if it isn't the default American response to throw mentally ill people under the bus every time there Yet Another Mass Shooting In America™, anyway. Doing otherwise might involve some uncomfortable introspection and questions, and that's one thing that the piggy masses of this nation don't want (not that they're capable of such cognitive functions, anyway).
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Have Blue posted:The military provides free education healthcare and food. If you're a foreign national you can serve as a way to get us citizenship. The only catch is that your life may end suddenly in a middle eastern ditch Other catch: Even if you don't die, you still die inside.
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Donald Trump ate my rear end for a bag of coffee
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Trump got me a low percentage rate on our new house. Otherwise, nothing he has done has affected me negatively or positively.
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He taught me how low the DNC had truly fallen
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Kthulhu5000 posted:Pfeh, as if it isn't the default American response to throw mentally ill people under the bus every time there Yet Another Mass Shooting In America™, anyway. Doing otherwise might involve some uncomfortable introspection and questions, and that's one thing that the piggy masses of this nation don't want (not that they're capable of such cognitive functions, anyway). You seem like a charming individual Please get help
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it seems rude to hate someone who has given me so much free entertainment. otoh, im drinking more than usual and my heartburn is back in force so maybe it's a wash idk
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Have Blue posted:E: I still find their deaths sad cause my soul hasn't withered and died yet but yours might have and that's cool too namaste
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