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Quiet Feet posted:More like Ramsey has the f u because he wants to get the L out of there. 
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evilweasel posted:the dolphins have five first/second round picks and if the steelers are real bad (they are) can easily flip that steelers pick for another one Or they can flip that #1 into 2 more firsts and a bevy of other high picks. They've out sold the 1-32 browns already and it seems way more likely that they'll be in the top 3 if not the 1 again after that. This team is bad enough to land back to back #1's or at worst the 3rd overall
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Ches Neckbeard posted:Or they can flip that #1 into 2 more firsts and a bevy of other high picks. They've out sold the 1-32 browns already and it seems way more likely that they'll be in the top 3 if not the 1 again after that. This team is bad enough to land back to back #1's or at worst the 3rd overall I'm not gonna advocate for passing on a QB we love because we are lovely right now.
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Ches Neckbeard posted:Or they can flip that #1 into 2 more firsts and a bevy of other high picks. They've out sold the 1-32 browns already and it seems way more likely that they'll be in the top 3 if not the 1 again after that. This team is bad enough to land back to back #1's or at worst the 3rd overall the box could be anything! even a boat!
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I have to think Miami is using Rosen this year, if he’s good in 2019 then you let him start and play out 2020 as your Tua sits, then you trade Rosen to a QB needy team OR simply let him walk and get the 3rd round comp, assuming you don’t have big spending in 2021 off season (especially compared to a large 2020 offseason of 150mm in spending)
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evilweasel posted:the box could be anything! even a boat! Because all those mid rounders are certain to work out as starters! Yall did notice Andrew Luck the most recent sure thing died right?
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Ches Neckbeard posted:Because all those mid rounders are certain to work out as starters! Nobody will repeat that mista... oh.
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Sep 23, 2019 20:01
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Ches Neckbeard posted:Because all those mid rounders are certain to work out as starters! Drafting Andrew Luck was 100% the right move for the Colts though  I don't understand how the Colts doing a poor job with Luck's medical issues and not putting together a good offensive line is supposed to impact my opinion on whether Miami should take Tua.
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Ches Neckbeard posted:Because all those mid rounders are certain to work out as starters! Tua is no where close to as sure a thing as Luck was. Trevor though
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Ehud posted:Drafting Andrew Luck was 100% the right move for the Colts though Because tua isnt a generational cant miss prospect and one of those is coming out in 2021. I just don't want Trevor to go to Denver, man.
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Ehud posted:Drafting Andrew Luck was 100% the right move for the Colts though Because you're putting him on a shittier team than the Colts. It's not going to coalesce after just 1 draft.
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Sep 23, 2019 20:08
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Lawrence is on pace for 20 ints this year, better not draft him and instead take a guard
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Quiet Feet posted:More like Ramsey has the f u because he wants to get the L out of there. groooaaannnnn
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a neat cape posted:Dont draft tua Tua is right there close to a generational prospect. I'm not sure you can hope you get the Lawrence pick and pass on someone like Tua (or even Herbert or Eason or whoever).
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mastershakeman posted:Lawrence is on pace for 20 ints this year, better not draft him and instead take a guard He's not coming out this year!!!
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a neat cape posted:Because tua isnt a generational cant miss prospect and one of those is coming out in 2021. Hes going to Indy or GB. You know this.
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mikeraskol posted:Tua is right there close to a generational prospect. I'm not sure you can hope you get the Lawrence pick. Tua is not a generational prospect and might not even be the best prospect in his own draft class. And the Dolphins are bad enough to have the top pick 2 years in a row
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Chichevache posted:Hes going to Indy or GB. You know this. As long as it's not Denver!!
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a neat cape posted:And the Dolphins are bad enough to have the top pick 2 years in a row Ok and they pass on that whole class and then don't get the #1 the following year and they're hosed. Completely and totally hosed. That makes no sense.
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Sep 23, 2019 20:13
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ches right i mean why even draft if your team sucks
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I'm glad the Seahawks only had to do 1 year toward rebuilding when I look at the situation the Dolphins are in. Edit: snagging the best QB in franchise history in the 3rd round helps a lot.
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colachute posted:groooaaannnnn don't discourage creativity edit: Also I don't know where you find your QBOTF. It seems like you can take him literally anywhere in the draft. You just need to know who your guy is and when you've identified him, allow nothing to stop you from taking him wherever you see fit. Now the problem becomes if the Dolphins' scouts have the ability to know who is a good prospect but if you believe that is Tua stop at nothing to get him. My team passed on Russell Wilson to take a backup tackle and I will never get over it. kiimo fucked around with this message at 20:18 on Sep 23, 2019 |
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Ches Neckbeard posted:Because all those mid rounders are certain to work out as starters! yes but only after a seven year campaign to specifically never ever draft or sign a competent offensive line, not merely drafting him first and the OL second the dolphins will probably have a very good pick next year too. but probably isn't certainly, and the difference between the #1 and, say, the #5 is very large when it comes to getting the QB you want
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SHOAH NUFF posted:Probably thinking that it’s been like 7-8 seconds and even a complete buffoon would have gotten rid of the ball by then He thought he could hold the ball because they only rushed 3. The o-line forgot to tell him they were taking that play off
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Sep 23, 2019 20:18
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Dammit we just did like 5 pages of “should the Dolphins draft Tua” in the AFCE thread, don’t let the contagion spread
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Sep 23, 2019 20:21
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Ches Neckbeard posted:Because you're putting him on a shittier team than the Colts. It's not going to coalesce after just 1 draft. I think you're making too many assumptions. You're assuming: Miami will get the first overall pick two seasons in a row (we might not even get it this year with the way the Jets are playing!) Miami can't use an historical combination of draft and cap ammunition to make the roster go from "terrible" to just "below average". Miami can't further bolster the roster in 2021 with another stupid amount of high picks and cap space. A QB will be available in 2021 that we'll like as much as Tua (Lawrence has looked worse so far this year, he could also get hurt or even decide to go back another year to Clemson).
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Tua could also decide to go back to Alabama to avoid the dolphins, which would be good for Miami
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It's just funny seeing the Dolphins doing this specifically to get out of the 7-9/6-10 loop of death they were in when they're interested in Tua and not Lawrence, meaning they're more likely than not to get back in that loop in no time flat after this one year of winning nothing period
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Sep 23, 2019 20:24
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Ehud posted:the miami dolphins will never be good again is the word again really necessary?
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a neat cape posted:Tua could also decide to go back to Alabama to avoid the dolphins, which would be good for Miami God that would be funny
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Getting Tua and then #1 the next year would be great for the Dolphins, because teams would be paying out the rear end in draft picks to get Lawrence.
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Mr. Nice! posted:is the word again really necessary? They were good when I was a boy!
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If the Dolphins go 0-16 this season it should retroactively cancel their perfect season.
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seiferguy posted:If the Dolphins go 0-16 this season it should retroactively cancel their perfect season. The 70whatever team can still drink their wine/whiskey when the last undefeated team loses in a season, but now it has to be a buttchug
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They have to drink hobo wine from an old boot like a Bugs Bunny cartoon.
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Ches Neckbeard posted:Because you're putting him on a shittier team than the Colts. It's not going to coalesce after just 1 draft. Oh man you’re exactly right if only Miami thought ahead and started securing 2021 picks... I’m shocked a Browns fan of all folks doesn’t understand what Miami is doing, but I’m floored you somehow don’t see our clear as day blueprint is the same as Cleveland’s - Miami + CLE simply had different equity. Miami had a few talented players that had value. Cleveland has back to back awful seasons. They had draft equity. Both use that value to secure the specific value they are targeted (ie QB in 1st round 2020 draft, go into next 2 drafts expecting to spend 3-4 picks on line, etc. pick a scheme) But for some reason you’re paralleling them with Colts, which simply lost everything they could and drafted Andrew Luck, assuming it was finished because PEYTON was good enough, after all...
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Bigass Moth posted:I don’t think Gendo was arrested for anything. I think he was harassing/stalking a female poster and was either told to leave or disappeared on his own. I thought he molested his underage relative
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Ehud posted:the miami dolphins will never be good again Ross will die eventually.
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Tua is gonna be a bust.
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