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Gully Foyle posted:There's at least one execution of an unarmed prisoner of war, which I think counts. There's also that scene where the modern SS liquidates a mental hospital.
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Slim Jim Pickens posted:CoD 3 took place around the same time as Wittmann's death, and missed a great opportunity for the player to chumpstomp him imo. Isn't there a mission where you fight a Tiger with a Firefly? Naturally, you must get point blank and shoot it right in the rear to kill it.
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SeanBeansShako posted:I think the angry internet backlash from that four player co-op Kellies Heroes sort of game they slapped the franchises name onto scared them from ever touching the licence ever again. Hilariously, the Payday 2 guys are making the exact same slightly more serious version of that game. Allegedly they're working on a sequel, but the last news was nearly two years ago and they haven't said anything since. I'd like to believe we'll see a new entry in the franchise someday, but considering the BiA series was always fairly niche, and several of the last few major titles Gearbox worked on flopped, I have my doubts there's enough financial incentive to return.
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They should roll the dice, a frigging WW1 themed FPS game worked so why not?
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It's not really about the setting, it's about the genre-Battlefield One is a multiplayer-focused, fast paced shooter, and there's a large established market for those games. Brothers in Arms is a slower paced tactical shooter in the vein of the classic Rainbow Six games, and the market for those titles is a lot smaller. It's unfortunate, since I'd buy like six loving copies, but that's how the market is these days.
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Well the latest Rainbow Six is also doing pretty well, It keeps popping in and out the STEAM charts. I'd certainly put money down on it more than the next Call Of Duty at release. So uh, how goes the whole using games to train soldiers in the US/other armies these days?
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Slim Jim Pickens posted:CoD 3 took place around the same time as Wittmann's death, and missed a great opportunity for the player to chumpstomp him imo. Unfortunately pretty much all of CoH's tank stuff is straight out of Death Traps. CoH2 manages to be even worse in its treatment of the Soviets.
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Arquinsiel posted:The first moden Medal of Honor is actually not terrible in terms of campaign. It's a reasonably accurate retelling of the invasion of Afghanistan right up to Operation Anaconda in 2002. I had as much fun playing it as I did any other greybrown modern shotmans campaign TBH. Possibly even more. I don't usually do multiplayer but the single player campaign in this game was not bad at all. I enjoyed it a great deal.
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I liked the treatment of Tigers in Men or War. They could be awesome in the right hands, but if you played smart they were still incredibly vulnerable, same as any tank.
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:The 1st Infantry Division saw action everywhere starting with Operation Torch. I'm sure plenty of GIs fought straight through November 42 to VE Day. Sam Fuller, director of The Big Red One was a veteran of the 1ID and saw combat in North Africa, Italy, Normandy, and helped liberate a concentration camp in Czechoslovakia. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srVJsCRJJLc
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I seem to remember some RTS or other that made the Tiger incredibly powerful, but saddled it with a rather realistic weakness: the things would constantly break down forcing you to bring up a repair crew to spend resources getting it moving again every time, and they couldn't pass through even light terrain without breaking down every two seconds. Powerful, but a ridiculous headache to deal with as their owner.
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:So any more recommendations for books on the Vietnam War? A Bright Shining Lie is more of a biography of one dude than a history isn't it? Anything by Bernard Fall.
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Rising Storm was a pretty good semi-realisitic WW2 shooter that came out a few years ago. Same devs as Red Orchestra. RS was set entirely in the Pacific theater and had some great intense asymmetrical fights. Rising Storm 2 is coming out soon and is set in Vietnam, I've watched some beta footage and it looks really cool. Edit: One of the most hilarious parts of Rising Storm was bonzai charging when playing as Japanese. It's since been replaced with how hilarious bayonet charges are in BF1. Live At Five! fucked around with this message at 05:18 on Apr 27, 2017 |
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A bonsai charge would be interesting to watch. Dozens of tiny ents charging along a battlefield.
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Ensign Expendable posted:A bonsai charge would be interesting to watch. Dozens of tiny ents charging along a battlefield. drat you, I've been laughing like an idiot for a couple of minutes.
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my dad posted:drat you, I've been laughing like an idiot for a couple of minutes. Welp that's what I deserve for checking spelling on Wikipedia. I'm going to keep the typo. And yes its multiplayer only.
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Forgotten Hope was the best realism WW2 mod from 1942 and I will fight anyone that disagrees.
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Ensign Expendable posted:A bonsai charge would be interesting to watch. Dozens of tiny ents charging along a battlefield.
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GotLag posted:Company of Heroes had you fighting against Tiger ace  The sound and voice effects do make it immersive at least.
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SeanBeansShako posted:Well the latest Rainbow Six is also doing pretty well, It keeps popping in and out the STEAM charts. I'd certainly put money down on it more than the next Call Of Duty at release. Pretty sure the Arma guys are still selling this to all and sundry - https://bisimulations.com/
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Live At Five! posted:Rising Storm was a pretty good semi-realisitic WW2 shooter that came out a few years ago. Same devs as Red Orchestra. RS was set entirely in the Pacific theater and had some great intense asymmetrical fights. Rising Storm 2 is coming out soon and is set in Vietnam, I've watched some beta footage and it looks really cool. Are the players as completely insufferable as the ones playing Red Orchestra?
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MrMojok posted:Was Rising Storm multiplayer-only? Yes and the developers weren't the guys who did RO2. RocktheCaulk posted:Forgotten Hope was the best realism WW2 mod from 1942 and I will fight anyone that disagrees. Seriously, it was a crude simple realism that really worked but no other games or mods ever emulated it. I always felt bad for Battlegroup despite how good it looked, that BF1942 mod was solid gold and I couldn't touch anything else.
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I played Forgotten Hope and FH2 for like 8 years straight it felt like, there were organized 32v32 tournament things for it that were some of the best multiplayer games I've ever played in any game ever. I actually got on SA through people I used to play it with.
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Yeah, Those organised campaign tournies were great. I went back to one a few years ago and it was sadly a shadow of it's former self. They really dropped the ball when it came to social media and updating their site until very recently, plus well the Battlefield games losing their mod friendly nature hurt them hard. I had the most fun with FH2 when somehow a server allowed 200 players to play was active. Great fun, slightly chaotic and it broke some of the maps but felt good. Shame every time that Mod drops new content the die hards play it to death while ignoring the early stuff.
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SeanBeansShako posted:Well the latest Rainbow Six is also doing pretty well, It keeps popping in and out the STEAM charts. I'd certainly put money down on it more than the next Call Of Duty at release. I played a convoy simulator before deploying to Afghanistan in 2012. We made it through two minutes before we got a game over because we hit a goat coming out of the gate.
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kraken! posted:I played a convoy simulator before deploying to Afghanistan in 2012. We made it through two minutes before we got a game over because we hit a goat coming out of the gate. War's over boys, we lost, turn it around. Also, convoy driving in a country with insurgents sounds like one of the scariest things in the world, going by the accounts I've read That said, I would absolutely play Iraqi truck simulator if that were the next sequel in that series
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IIRC someone thought it was unlikely for Red Army soldiers to make it from Stalingrad to Berlin, IIRC Katakov's Tank Guards Brigade actually managed to fight the war from Stalingrad to Berlin.
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The M3 is such a stupid looking tank. It's like it has tank cancer and started growing random tank-like growths all over the chassis.
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OwlFancier posted:The M3 is such a stupid looking tank. There is a very reasonable sequence of design decisions leading up to the design which starts with "let's shove nine machineguns into a single tank".
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What are some of the other derpiest-looking tanks of history (I'm willing to count prototypes that never made it to the field if they're funny-looking enough)? I've always been partial to the KV-2.
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Sturmpanzer I or this  Well, I guess frankentanks are sorta cheating but whatever
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Forgotten Hope's best map was the invasion of Crete. If only for the shenanigans of the entire German team trying to cram into the single Ju-52, dodgy physics and all. 20 in the cabin bouncing around, usually lost at least three to glitching through the plane walls. Five on each wing surfing the entire way  God I wish I could play that mod again, but I'm assuming it's dead as hell since the GameSpy shutdown.
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OwlFancier posted:Is that a Pak 38 welded to the top of a kettenkrad? Its a Pak 40 on a RSO, a fully tracked truck.
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Ensign Expendable posted:Isn't there a mission where you fight a Tiger with a Firefly? Naturally, you must get point blank and shoot it right in the rear to kill it. You killed "Richter" in one of the Polish tanker missions, who they called the "Black Baron" so basically a legally safe Wittman. I think he drives a Tiger 2. Yeah, come to think of it, games love doing the "BUT BOTH SIDES" while never really showing Nazis doing bad things besides executing a person here or there. I remember CoH 2 being the flat-out worst about it with its depictions of pleading/crying Nazis being executed and not a single Soviet shown killed by a German (while plenty are killed by their own side). CoD:WaW is a close second that conists of about 3 hours of Gary Oldman screaming at you to execute surrendering Germans, while the Japanese are portrayed as shitheads. I think one problem is that games are afraid of depicting stuff like the holocaust or mass genocide as they may not handle it well, so ironically you get a situation where the Allies are the only ones shown as executing German prisoners or some such. I can think of two games that depicted concentration camps, one of them being New Order (where you see healthy, muscular people just doing lever-pulling labor and ends with a stompy robot combat section), and Valkyria Chronicles (which I shouldn't need to qualify when I mention how stupid it is to even bring it up).
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