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Main Paineframe posted:The US does not have any rules and procedures for resolving a disputed election beyond recounts and "welp, let's see which candidate the Supreme Court likes more". There is zero precedent for "welp, the election's invalid, let's have a do-over", ever. At best, the results for the entire disputed voting machine might get tossed. Hell, prior to Bush v. Gore, the Supreme Court typically held that the federal government did not have the power to interfere with election results even in cases of obvious fraud, and it's likely that an 8-member court is going to punt similarly. Election fraud is a big deal even if it's discovered, because our system is not robust enough to handle it. Except for things like the voting rights act?
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***anecdote and not evidence*** but this just went up on a friend's facebook wall, a girl I went to college with. quote:Sexism hurts all of us: female voters are falling in love with Clinton in spite of our politics and our contempt for the Clinton machine because of the sheer nastiness directed at America's first serious female Presidential candidate. I was not prepared to cast my vote on the basis of gender--I campaigned for Sanders and was convinced I'd end up voting Stein, as I did in '12. That was when I assumed that blatant sexism would come only from an archaic fringe. Every time an otherwise sane, progressive human being says something like, "Clinton did pretty well in the debate. I think she's actually got a shot," I realize that if we don't elect a woman while she is the most politically experienced candidates in recent history... running against a comically unqualified man whose linguistic structure displays all the hallmarks of a personality disorder and/or neurologically-motivated cognitive decline... it may not ever happen. Because even under these ludicrously favorable circumstances, Americans are *surprised* by the possibility that after electing men from minority religious groups, minority ethnic groups, and objectively under-qualified and/or scandalous backgrounds... A wealthy, white woman with a mainstream platform *might* just beat the most polarizing candidate anyone can remember. Who started his primary campaign to boost his position in reality TV salary negotiations, with no intention of continuing to the general. Whose comments of public record would torpedo the career of any female *actor,* much less politician. Who has repeatedly expressed his intention to violate America's international agreements and destroy our geopolitical standing.
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i don't think ann landers and powers boothe were in the klan
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Crow Jane posted:I'm beginning to wonder if he won't slam his base for not trying hard enough when he loses. It's gonna be I can see him blaming the GOP for not giving him enough
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Trabisnikof posted:Who knows, but this is part of the legal code criminalizing what the NYTs did: Okay, but does that part of the tax code give Trump a private right of action? If it doesn't, who cares? (I know that law degree would come in handy someday!) edit to add: I'm really not sure what grounds Trump would have to sue, even if leaking his tax info was illegal under criminal statute. It certainly as hell isn't libel though, I know that much. Truth is a complete defense to libel. The Rokstar fucked around with this message at 23:47 on Oct 2, 2016 |
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http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/03/business/how-donald-trump-turned-the-tax-code-into-a-giant-tax-shelter.html The Times posted another good article about the tax stuff. There's nothing new, but it's a good read about just how many questions the leak raises about what's actually going on with Trump's finances. quote:“If it wasn’t clear before, it is now: The tax code is tilted toward the rich in its statutory framework, its exceptions, and in how it is enforced and administered,” said Steven M. Rosenthal, a real estate tax specialist and senior fellow at the Urban-Brookings Tax Policy Center.
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https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/782698760514207744 lmao, he really is grasping at all available straws
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Mr Interweb posted:Giuliani kept babbling about how Trump had to take those tax deductions because if he didn't, then his investors would be able to sue him. Think of the scandal this way: The one feather in his cap that Trump is running on is that he is supposedly a real smart, and adept business guru. Of course anyone who knows anything of Trump's business acumen outside of The Apprentice already knew this is utterly untrue. So this tax return thing isn't really a smoking gun, we already had that. It's more a receipt to a gun purchase, proving that the smoking gun is indeed Trump's. Why this is a new controversy is that it's a Catch 22 for Trump. Admit that the tax break is legitimate and that the smartest business man in the world somehow managed to lose almost a billion dollars in one year, and somehow he doesn't look so great at this whole business thing. Or he could admit to dodging taxes and some other illegal activity which will land him in jail in addition to costing him the election.
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Instant Sunrise posted:okay good point. The only way they keep Trump from going batshit crazy the moment the election is called for Hillary is if the Secret Service has a sniper with tranquilizer darts dialed in on Trump and then they toss him in a soundproof room with rubber walls for a few years.
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Instant Sunrise posted:didn't he do political cartoons for a little while in the carter years? He did. 
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Pakled posted:He did. I really enjoy that animal thing.
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Pakled posted:He did. I can't really tell if this is going over my head or under it.
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GalacticAcid posted:I can't really tell if this is going over my head or under it. Straight through, mach 3.
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Bip Roberts posted:I really enjoy that animal thing. Is that a reference to him and the rabbit?
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GalacticAcid posted:I can't really tell if this is going over my head or under it. In 1980, Ted Kennedy ran against Jimmy Carter in the Democratic primaries. The cartoon is about the Democrats dumping Carter. Bip Roberts posted:I really enjoy that animal thing. It's a donkey.
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iospace posted:To be completely and utterly fair to Gary Johnson, he is the second most qualified person running for president. It's Hillary >>>>>>>> Johnson >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> McMuffin > Stein > Trump, give or take a few >s People have to stop acting that Gary Johnson is anywhere near a reasonable person. "Qualified" and "Gary Johnson" should never be put in the same sentence. He's every bit as dumb as Stein, only with way worse policies.
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punk rebel ecks posted:People have to stop acting that Gary Johnson is anywhere near a reasonable person. "Qualified" and "Gary Johnson" should never be put in the same sentence. He's every bit as dumb as Stein, only with way worse policies.
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punk rebel ecks posted:People have to stop acting that Gary Johnson is anywhere near a reasonable person. "Qualified" and "Gary Johnson" should never be put in the same sentence. He's every bit as dumb as Stein, only with way worse policies. Having been a two-term governor, he does have more political experience than the other three candidates iospace ranked behind him.
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punk rebel ecks posted:People have to stop acting that Gary Johnson is anywhere near a reasonable person. "Qualified" and "Gary Johnson" should never be put in the same sentence. He's every bit as dumb as Stein, only with way worse policies. Of the five candidates who get on the polls, only two have any sort of statewide (read: Governor) or national level political experience. Johnson is one, Clinton is the other. So yes, he is the second most qualified person in the race. Now do I think his policies are good? Pffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffft no.
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https://twitter.com/NPR/status/782714277618651138 Don't gently caress this up, Arizona
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Smart Car posted:I think that was more of a statement on how incompetent everyone else is rather than an endorsement of Johnson's competence. Pretty much.
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iospace posted:To be completely and utterly fair to Gary Johnson, he is the second most qualified person running for president. It's Hillary >>>>>>>> Johnson >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> McMuffin > Stein > Trump, give or take a few >s Hillary >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Vermin Supreme >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Johnson >>> Stein >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Trump
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Smart Car posted:I think that was more of a statement on how incompetent everyone else is rather than an endorsement of Johnson's competence. A McMuffin is still more competent than Gary Johnson. Pakled posted:Having been a two-term governor, he does have more political experience than the other three candidates iospace ranked behind him. iospace posted:Of the five candidates who get on the polls, only two have any sort of statewide (read: Governor) or national level political experience. Johnson is one, Clinton is the other. So yes, he is the second most qualified person in the race. Bush W. was a governor. Sarah Palin was a governor. Experience and qualified only correlate so much when you are dealing with garbage. Obama was a nationwide senator for less than four years and became president and still did a better job than anyone in the past 40 years or so. While experience is important, it isn't everything. Especially if it's "Bad Experience". 
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Old James posted:Hillary >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Vermin Supreme >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Johnson >>> Stein >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Trump Wasn't Vermin Supreme a Libertarian?
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Augus posted:lol if you think they'll be able to keep him on the teleprompter moments after he loses the election for president of the united states and the amount of drugs needed to subdue the supernova heat would kill him. Note the cause of death is death from being crushed under a ton of the stuff.
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Pastrymancy posted:https://twitter.com/NPR/status/782714277618651138 Get hosed you racist old shitlord. God, I hope he goes down.
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punk rebel ecks posted:People have to stop acting that Gary Johnson is anywhere near a reasonable person. "Qualified" and "Gary Johnson" should never be put in the same sentence. He's every bit as dumb as Stein, only with way worse policies. Yeah, the Aleppo thing was crushing enough, but to get caught out a second time showing a complete lack of knowledge or awareness of the world outside the United States is pretty shocking. He's at least twice as dumb as Sarah Palin, who we had presumed set a new low when it came to national level politics.
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punk rebel ecks posted:Bush W. was a governor. Sarah Palin was a governor. Experience and qualified only correlate so much when you are dealing with garbage. Obama was a nationwide senator for less than four years and became president and still did a better job than anyone in the past 40 years or so. Both are more qualified to be President than Stein or Trump. That's just qualifications though, says nothing about competence or policy.
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The point is mostly that the Stein-Trump bar is so low it's subterranean, not that Johnson has any business being seriously considered for a major office.
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Throw his rear end in jail, please. Can't the USDC just hurry up with that contempt trial?
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Real talk, can someone explain to me why Stein is so bad? I've come to dislike her from the little that I have been exposed to (She comes across as a female and dumb version of Bernie Sanders), but what makes her so horrible? Jackson Taus posted:Both are more qualified to be President than Stein or Trump. That's just qualifications though, says nothing about competence or policy. I could agree with this if you use "qualify" by that definition. punk rebel ecks fucked around with this message at 00:20 on Oct 3, 2016 |
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Pastrymancy posted:Wasn't Vermin Supreme a Libertarian?
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punk rebel ecks posted:Real talk, can someone explain to me why Stein is so bad? She caters to the vaccine deniers.
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Hitler B. Natural posted:. Oh man, the Coleman Franken recount. I remember a court of law discussing the Lizard People ballot  Seriouspost: if I write in Lizard People for one of the useless uncontested down ballot races, would it invalidate my vote for the rest of the races where I mark my vote properly? CannonFodder fucked around with this message at 00:31 on Oct 3, 2016 |
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Jill Stein is what would happen if an amalgamation of huffington post article comments gained sentience and ran for president.
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Crowsbeak posted:She caters to the vaccine deniers. Anything else besides vaccine and Wifi? I mean to be fair people in the "mainstream" camps believe a lot of goofyshit too. And I don't even want to bring up Johnson's camp.
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punk rebel ecks posted:Real talk, can someone explain to me why Stein is so bad? Her positions are a vague grab bag of leftist/libertarian feel-good issues with no substance or larger goal behind them and her political career has never been anything but a an attempt to get her name in the news for a little while once every four years. She's basically Donald Trump but not as malignant - she's in politics for celebrity status, which essentially makes her dead weight.
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Crowsbeak posted:She caters to the vaccine deniers. Stein also has no desire to understand how energy policy works and has an understanding of Foreign policy that is "Take things Russia says at us at face value"
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