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The Glumslinger posted:Igrab Cuntra Affair 
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Oct 10, 2016 07:55
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I'm pleasantly surprised that the popular perception is that Trump still lost that debate, even if only slightly. Trump was a bit more coherent this time so it really is the country rejecting his positions and not just his personality. I thought for sure that Trump's machismo and unrelenting attacks (and, to be fair, a sub-par performance from Hillary) would put him over the edge in public opinion (for this debate, not the whole election, he's sunk in the election) but it seems people really do see through Turmp's bullshit now, and that gives me hope.
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Oct 10, 2016 07:55
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It's way more fun to come up with different name every time you mention it. Donald Trump will return in... Grabdapussy
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Oct 10, 2016 07:55
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Zwabu posted:Yeah, too tired tonight but tomorrow morning I want to take a look at 270towin and game out what's the earliest time 270 EVs can be confirmed, if, say, she wins the whole Midwest, FL, NC and VA. The media will be very hesitant to call it until it's absolutely over. Early in the evening in 2008, Obama was doing so well that the west coast was guaranteed to seal the deal, but the networks refused to call it and focused on Ohio instead (which turned out not to be a consequential swing state that year). For a funny contrast, in Canada the latest election was called for Trudeau the instant the Atlantic polls closed, even though many seats in the rest of the country were still technically up in the air.
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Oct 10, 2016 07:57
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Tom Guycot posted:Regarding the health care debate a couple pages ago, and the usual idiots that seem to surface and try to defend the US health care system and attack single payer setups, I always have a great personal anecdote. Went to ER in pain they could do nothing but prescribe pain killers. Eventually got an emergency surgery with my ENT doc who volunteered to step in when other parts of the system "failed me" (his words) but by then it corrupted a saliva gland and part of my face is permanently paralyzed from nerve damage. This was a month and a half ago. I have a lot more I've said in the cancer thread in SA but yea us health care is lovely.
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Oct 10, 2016 07:58
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Islam is the Lite Rock FM posted:gently caress adding gate to the end of scandals. gently caress it forever.
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Oct 10, 2016 07:59
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What would the earliest bellweather of a sure Clinton victory be? GA going blue? FL going blue means it's a sure thing for Hillary too, but the polls don't close there until an hour later so we won't get a call until 8pm EST at the earliest.
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Oct 10, 2016 08:00
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Islam is the Lite Rock FM posted:Didn't the pussygrab source say there was more and there was worse? Or was that just Clinton? One of the 'Apprentice' production folks posted just that.
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Oct 10, 2016 08:00
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Supercar Gautier posted:The media will be very hesitant to call it until it's absolutely over. Early in the evening in 2008, Obama was doing so well that the west coast was guaranteed to seal the deal, but the networks refused to call it and focused on Ohio instead (which turned out not to be a consequential swing state that year). nobody wants a repeat of 2000
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Oct 10, 2016 08:01
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TheOneAndOnlyT posted:-ghazi is worse IMO, since the Benghazi "scandal" isn't actually true. Hmmm both are poo poo but you do have a point. Not like pussy and grab are hard to turn into a good name.
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Oct 10, 2016 08:01
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Pakled posted:I'm pleasantly surprised that the popular perception is that Trump still lost that debate, even if only slightly. Trump was a bit more coherent this time so it really is the country rejecting his positions and not just his personality. He was more coherent but his personality was a big turn-off. He interrupted her every time she spoke. And he almost never actually answered a question. He's a
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Oct 10, 2016 08:02
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Pakled posted:What would the earliest bellweather of a sure Clinton victory be? GA going blue? FL going blue means it's a sure thing for Hillary too, but the polls don't close there until an hour later so we won't get a call until 8pm EST at the earliest. Poll averages showing a ten or more point national lead on on the eve of the election coupled with 5+ point leads in enough swing states to hit 300+ EV. There is no way there's a ten point polling miss in this day and age.
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Oct 10, 2016 08:02
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FuturePastNow posted:He was more coherent but his personality was a big turn-off. He interrupted her every time she spoke. And he almost never actually answered a question. He's a he also loomed behind her with his scrunchy face and stalked her every time it was her turn to talk.
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Oct 10, 2016 08:02
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Pakled posted:What would the earliest bellweather of a sure Clinton victory be? GA going blue? FL going blue means it's a sure thing for Hillary too, but the polls don't close there until an hour later so we won't get a call until 8pm EST at the earliest. I'd say GA going blue would be the dagger twisting.
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Oct 10, 2016 08:03
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TheOneAndOnlyT posted:-ghazi is worse IMO, since the Benghazi "scandal" isn't actually true. Pussywater
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Oct 10, 2016 08:05
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His complaint about her getting more time then him will get some play alongside the stat that shows he got about a minute more than her to talk. There is also the fact that whenever the timer started to wind down on her, he would bring the mic up to his mouth like he could barely restrain himself from cutting her off. Sometimes failing to do so.
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Oct 10, 2016 08:06
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NC, GA and FL going blue probably won't get called until later on election night if they're close.
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Oct 10, 2016 08:06
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Agrajag posted:he also loomed behind her with his scrunchy face and stalked her every time it was her turn to talk.
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Oct 10, 2016 08:06
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Someone asked why we want kill-shots. It's because we need to run up the loving score, or this is going to happen again and again, every four years like clockwork. These people are not going to slink away quietly. This is the new normal. The only way to stop it is to completely and totally destroy them politically -- to make the extreme populist fascist right so humiliated that no mainstream political party will let them have even a second of air-time to pollute with their garbage. Trumpism needs to become a third rail, or we're just leaving this problem for the next election, and the next, and the next. Then, once it's so loathed and toxic that nobody brings it up anymore, and we have an opposition party willing to govern, we can maybe get back to work on making America not a pile of poo poo. And gently caress the Republicans for making my dreams of political success so small: to just make America a little bit less lovely by the time my kids are adults.
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Oct 10, 2016 08:06
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Islam is the Lite Rock FM posted:The NY times flowchart says FL, NC, VA end it. Those three will be earliest unless FL fucks up and goes slow. FL resident here, I'd bet money that Rick Scott pulls some last-minute maneuver to close voting stations early or some other bullshit to disenfranchise city voters
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Oct 10, 2016 08:08
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i think trump looming over hillary is definitely going to get a lot of play this week in the news cycle.
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Oct 10, 2016 08:08
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Instant Sunrise posted:NC, GA and FL going blue probably won't get called until later on election night if they're close. If Georgia is close then Florida and NC aren't and then it's over.
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Oct 10, 2016 08:09
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Infer your own 'can we call it?' scenarios from here.
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Oct 10, 2016 08:09
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Islam is the Lite Rock FM posted:I'd say GA going blue would be the dagger twisting. What would a blue texas be? Teabagging the corpse?
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Oct 10, 2016 08:11
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Instant Sunrise posted:i think trump looming over hillary is definitely going to get a lot of play this week in the news cycle. A lot of what Trump and Clinton said was incomprehensible to many of the viewers, but the body language is something anyone can understand. The looming, the pacing, the sniffling, the grimaces, the hand gestures when he was interrupting Clinton or the moderators, and even the chairfucking may put off voters too stupid to understand the issues or carry out fact-checking on the internet.
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Oct 10, 2016 08:12
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Quinton posted:https://twitter.com/jbarro/status/785358312233631744 There's another Trump projection onto Hillary: uses woman like props. The Glumslinger posted:What would a blue texas be? Teabagging the corpse? The coffin lid closing.
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Oct 10, 2016 08:13
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The Glumslinger posted:What would a blue texas be? Teabagging the corpse? http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=mung the top definition is what you're looking for
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Oct 10, 2016 08:14
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FuturePastNow posted:He was more coherent but his personality was a big turn-off. He interrupted her every time she spoke. And he almost never actually answered a question. He's a I've only watched highlights, but he also didn't seem to be able to keep his facts straight. Like, when pressing Hillary on emails, he said "33,000 deleted emails", "39,000 deleted emails" and "15,000 deleted emails" in the space of a minute. The idea of objective, measurable reality just doesn't seem to register with him. He just makes up numbers as he goes.
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Oct 10, 2016 08:16
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Supercar Gautier posted:I disagree. The main factor in a downballot blowout is how motivated republicans are to bother voting. "Hillary is definitely going to win and our only hope is to hold onto Congress" is a hell of a motivator, it's just not something the Republicans can use as long as a sizable portion still believes in Trump and would see that as a betrayal. Remember that Republicans are the ones who traditionally show up for midterms. They're motivated even when the presidency isn't on the line. The challenge for the GOP is to convince people who won't vote for Trump to still get out and vote, all while not pissing off his insane supporters.
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Oct 10, 2016 08:16
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The Glumslinger posted:What would a blue texas be? Teabagging the corpse? Yeah just like I did back when I bear tanked in wow.
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Oct 10, 2016 08:16
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Lead out in cuffs posted:I've only watched highlights, but he also didn't seem to be able to keep his facts straight. Like, when pressing Hillary on emails, he said "33,000 deleted emails", "39,000 deleted emails" and "15,000 deleted emails" in the space of a minute. The idea of objective, measurable reality just doesn't seem to register with him. He just makes up numbers as he goes. I like where he just started throwing out random percentages for how much healthcare has gone up like he was on Numberwang.
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Oct 10, 2016 08:20
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Someone a zillion pages back said G-Spot Dome Scandal
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Oct 10, 2016 08:20
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Oct 10, 2016 08:21
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Paradoxish posted:The challenge for the GOP is to convince people who won't vote for Trump to still get out and vote, all while not pissing off his insane supporters. That is not a needle that can be threaded and you know it. gently caress this false equivilance.
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Oct 10, 2016 08:22
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that's gonna be the narrative a lot of people take away from the debate tonight.
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Oct 10, 2016 08:22
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Lid posted:If you think a presidential nominee refusi ng to debate their opponent for the first time in history will be a nothing event i have a bridge to sell you. This is a straw to grasp if you think this is in any way a brilliant move. Carter refused to attend the first debate against Reagan, resulting in Reagan debating third-party candidate John Anderson.  Zwabu posted:Yeah. And the third debate is I think supposed to be on foreign policy/national security issues(?) that are supposed to be Trump's strong suit, with a Fox News moderator to boot. In what world is foreign policy Trumps "strong suit?" The man wants to steal Iraq's oil, threaten to withdraw form NATO, and give nuclear weapons to Japan, South Korea and Saudi Arabia.
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Oct 10, 2016 08:23
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Yes foreign policy debate with Johnson.
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Oct 10, 2016 08:24
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Islam is the Lite Rock FM posted:Yes foreign policy debate with Johnson. "Wait, I finally figure out what Aleppo is and now you want to know about Pyongyang? Pick a city and stick with it!"
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Oct 10, 2016 08:25
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isildur posted:Someone asked why we want kill-shots. More to the point: we want a kill-shot because a kill-shot has the best chance of landing now. Trump is a buffoon who possibly may be unconsciously sabotaging his own election, but he's also done a sterling job at revealing just how vulnerable America is, now and at least for the next four years, to capital-F Fascism. If Trump's politics are not completely repudiated - if he fails not just because he's loathsome but because all his ideas represent a destruction of democracy - then in four or perhaps eight years a more clever person might come along, who knows how to use Trump's kind of rhetoric and Fascist goals but is much better at image and politics - he doesn't piss off every single demographic that isn't whites over 30, in particular can manage to win over young folk and women to some degree, and can actually play politics just well enough to get the Republican political machine behind him - then that's it. The ticket is punched. There would be an extreme danger of the Union as a democracy going the way of the Weimar Republic. It cannot be stressed enough how dangerous men like Trump are to functioning democracies. And the events of the past thirty years or so have made America more vulnerable to such men than at any other point in our history.
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Oct 10, 2016 08:26
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It does feel nice to know we're living in a world where white dudes don't just de facto get to determine who's president anymore. Coalition, big tent bitches, you had your chance to change, gently caress you and your trump. All of y'all deserve to go down the loving drain with him forever.
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Oct 10, 2016 08:26
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