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AbrahamLincolnLog
Oct 1, 2014

Note to self: This one's the shitty one

Magmarashi posted:

When you start looking around, you begin to notice that only a handful of titles get HUGE advertising budgets blown on them, many games release just as much information as Bethesda has before releasing their game. My guess is they've realized they don't need to break the bank constantly stoking the fires, people are going to buy this game regardless.

Exactly. If you're interested in Fallout, you're going to buy this, period. And if you have any interest in games at all there's no way you haven't heard about Fallout 4.

There's no real need for a huge advertising budget because it's already got widespread attention just by the name alone.

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Magmarashi
May 20, 2009





AbrahamLincolnLog posted:

Exactly. If you're interested in Fallout, you're going to buy this, period. And if you have any interest in games at all there's no way you haven't heard about Fallout 4.

There's no real need for a huge advertising budget because it's already got widespread attention just by the name alone.

I'm REALLY hoping they've spent that AAA marketing budget on the work-hours for all this 'bugfixing and polish'. Slightly unpolished and very janky day-one experiences have been a long term complaint and I really want them to put the effort in to break that habit.

Magmarashi fucked around with this message at 05:14 on Oct 30, 2015

Infinity Gaia
Feb 27, 2011

a storm is coming...

All I wanted was a solid 15-20 minutes of unedited gameplay. That's all I desired. I doubt I'm getting even that prior to release.

Merry Magpie
Jan 8, 2012

A superstitious cowardly lot.

Inverness posted:

They've supposedly been finished with the game since E3 and used the time to bugfix and optimize.

I'm doubtful that they're hiding bad things. When companies want to hide bad things they generate hype with excessive marketing and highly tailored gameplay videos.

I think they're confident and are just waiting for the floodgates to unleash on launch day.
"Excessive marketing"
http://www.techtimes.com/articles/100636/20151028/the-complete-guide-to-fallout-4-pre-order-bonuses.htm
http://www.gamespot.com/articles/fallout-4-dlc-now-available-to-preorder-on-xbox-on/1100-6431065/

"Hines also confirmed that the Pip Boy Edition of Fallout 4, despite being very impressively loaded out, does not include the season pass."
Source: http://www.pcgamer.com/fallout-4-system-requirements/

"Highly tailored gameplay videos"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1t_YHgo_HN4

For Skyrim and Fallout 3, Bethesda provided a hands-on demo to build hype.
Strangely for a game "finished" since E3, Bethesda did not allow anyone hands-on time with Fallout 4.

Huh.

counterfeitsaint
Feb 26, 2010

I'm a girl, and you're
gnomes, and it's like
what? Yikes.
Starcraft 2 Episode 3 Legacy of the Void actually comes out the same day as FO4. I would have had no idea except my starcraft nerd friend told me. The dumbest decision Blizzard has made in recently memory, and that is really saying something.

Jobbo_Fett
Mar 7, 2014

Slava Ukrayini

Clapping Larry

counterfeitsaint posted:

Starcraft 2 Episode 3 Legacy of the Void actually comes out the same day as FO4. I would have had no idea except my starcraft nerd friend told me. The dumbest decision Blizzard has made in recently memory, and that is really saying something.

Call of Duty: Black Ops III releasing on like... the 6th?

It's not really a poor decision, since Starcraft and Fallout are so different that people will most likely split time for both.

Magmarashi
May 20, 2009






That's not what I'd classify as excessive in comparison to the lengths and depths other companies go to.

Bloody Hedgehog
Dec 12, 2003

💥💥🤯💥💥
Gotta nuke something

Seashell Salesman posted:

Who are coke ads targeting? I don't really know but, much like coke itself, they are everywhere.

Coke's massive success in the early 20th century was due to another competing product, Moxie, thinking they were all that and reducing/eliminating their advertising. Moxie was incredibly popular, so much so that the word "Moxie" entered the cultural lexicon through brand recognition of the product. Moxie thought they were so ubiquitous though that they didn't need to advertise, and would instead put their advertising budget towards increasing their sugar reserves. They ended up being dead wrong, and Coke stepped in and advertised the hell out of themselves, and the rest is history. Coke was quite popular all through their run, but it wasn't until the early 20th that they really become a national icon after Moxies fatal mistake.

So yeah, despite Coke being insanely popular, they know better than to ever tempt fate and stop advertising.

Merry Magpie
Jan 8, 2012

A superstitious cowardly lot.

Magmarashi posted:

That's not what I'd classify as excessive in comparison to the lengths and depths other companies go to.

"Since we're still hard at work on the game, we don't know what the actual DLC will be yet, but it will start coming early next year,"
-Pete Hines, VP of Marketing
Source: http://www.gamespot.com/articles/fallout-4-dlc-now-available-to-preorder-on-xbox-on/1100-6431065/

"Hines also confirmed that the Pip Boy Edition of Fallout 4, despite being very impressively loaded out, does not include the season pass."
Source: http://www.pcgamer.com/fallout-4-system-requirements/

Price of Pip Boy Edition of Fallout 4: $119.99
Source: http://www.bestbuy.com/site/fallout-4-pip-boy-edition-playstation-4/9634008.p?id=1219705076076&

What would you classify as excessive?

Magmarashi
May 20, 2009





Merry Magpie posted:

"Since we're still hard at work on the game, we don't know what the actual DLC will be yet, but it will start coming early next year,"
-Pete Hines, VP of Marketing
Source: http://www.gamespot.com/articles/fallout-4-dlc-now-available-to-preorder-on-xbox-on/1100-6431065/

"Hines also confirmed that the Pip Boy Edition of Fallout 4, despite being very impressively loaded out, does not include the season pass."
Source: http://www.pcgamer.com/fallout-4-system-requirements/

Price of Pip Boy Edition of Fallout 4: $119.99
Source: http://www.bestbuy.com/site/fallout-4-pip-boy-edition-playstation-4/9634008.p?id=1219705076076&

What would you classify as excessive?

None of that. All of that is considered bog standard AAA gaming marketing these days.

Rageaholic
May 31, 2005

Old Town Road to EGOT

counterfeitsaint posted:

Starcraft 2 Episode 3 Legacy of the Void actually comes out the same day as FO4. I would have had no idea except my starcraft nerd friend told me. The dumbest decision Blizzard has made in recently memory, and that is really saying something.
Wait, really? Has there been like zero marketing for that or something? I really enjoyed the first 2 episodes and I had no idea that was even about to come out.

I guess I'll get that after I'm done with FO4. They really should've done a better job of spreading the word, though, and picked a different loving release date.

Merry Magpie
Jan 8, 2012

A superstitious cowardly lot.

Magmarashi posted:

None of that. All of that is considered bog standard AAA gaming marketing these days.
The incredibly stupid "Juggernog" edition of Black Ops 3 includes the season pass.
Source: https://blog.activision.com/community/games-blog/call-of-duty/blog/2015/07/09/call-of-duty-black-ops-3-collector-s-editions-announced

"Hines also confirmed that the Pip Boy Edition of Fallout 4, despite being very impressively loaded out, does not include the season pass."
Source: http://www.pcgamer.com/fallout-4-system-requirements/

The incredibly stupid Pip-Boy Edition does not.
Bethesda is more aggressively milking their fans for money than Activision with Call of Duty.

Think about that for a moment.

Babe Magnet
Jun 2, 2008

lmao at merry magpie

NecroMonster
Jan 4, 2009

but he's talking about marketing and you seem to be talking about product packages i don't understand

VocalizePlayerDeath
Jan 29, 2009

Milk me T How.

Crabtree
Oct 17, 2012

ARRRGH! Get that wallet out!
Everybody: Lowtax in a Pickle!
Pickle! Pickle! Pickle! Pickle!

Dinosaur Gum

Merry Magpie posted:

The incredibly stupid "Juggernog" edition of Black Ops 3 includes the season pass.
Source: https://blog.activision.com/community/games-blog/call-of-duty/blog/2015/07/09/call-of-duty-black-ops-3-collector-s-editions-announced

"Hines also confirmed that the Pip Boy Edition of Fallout 4, despite being very impressively loaded out, does not include the season pass."
Source: http://www.pcgamer.com/fallout-4-system-requirements/

The incredibly stupid Pip-Boy Edition does not.
Bethesda is more aggressively milking their fans for money than Activision with Call of Duty.

Think about that for a moment.

I'm gonna be brutally honest, they've already sold an insane amount of this poo poo and even the Season Passes that we have no way of knowing what they'll be or accessing said content for likely a full year from now, nor the stupid plastic crap you can stick your iphone in and pretend you're wearing an even more crappy cellphone all over your hand, will make as much money as Fallout Shelter. The machine's just going to chug on no matter how stupid any of us thinks it is, man.

Fake James
Aug 18, 2005

Y'all got any more of that plastic?
Buglord
Hey Merry Magpie, what doesn't the Pip-Boy edition include? Although you've posted the same info 3 times on the same page like some kind of autist, I still can't make out what you are saying. Maybe it's just the spraypaint fumes getting to me!

de_dust
Jan 21, 2009

she had tiny Italian boobs.
Well that's my story.

Merry Magpie posted:

The incredibly stupid "Juggernog" edition of Black Ops 3 includes the season pass.
Source: https://blog.activision.com/community/games-blog/call-of-duty/blog/2015/07/09/call-of-duty-black-ops-3-collector-s-editions-announced

"Hines also confirmed that the Pip Boy Edition of Fallout 4, despite being very impressively loaded out, does not include the season pass."
Source: http://www.pcgamer.com/fallout-4-system-requirements/

The incredibly stupid Pip-Boy Edition does not.
Bethesda is more aggressively milking their fans for money than Activision with Call of Duty.

Think about that for a moment.

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SunAndSpring
Dec 4, 2013
What kind of retard buys a season pass or a collector's edition

Cream-of-Plenty
Apr 21, 2010

"The world is a hellish place, and bad writing is destroying the quality of our suffering."

NecroMonster posted:

but he's talking about marketing and you seem to be talking about product packages i don't understand

"The Brilliance of Fallout 4 Exec's One-Man-Marketing-Machine"

quote:

"DISGRACEFUL."

That was the description given by one passerby during Australia's own PAX festival earlier today.

"He wouldn't stop."

The staff of the illustrious PAX Australia 2015 did not plan to have a surprise visitor from Bethesda HQ when they opened the doors at the South Wharf convention center in Melbourne.

"We were initially surprised but excited to see that Mr. Hines had decided to make an appearance at our event. But we weren't sure how to accommodate him. Like, do you cancel a panel so he can get up and talk to the audience? Nobody really knew what to do."

Yet it wasn't long before Hines threw a second curve ball at PAX staff members. After shortening a Walking Dead panel to make room for a brief Q&A with Bethesda's Marketing VP, witnesses report that Hines stepped onto the stage "...wearing a metal trashcan like a suit of power armor."

"He was really upset about something. I could tell right off the bat. And it's supposed to be a Q&A, so people immediately start raising their hands to get a chance to ask something about Fallout 4." To the surprise of many, however, Hines appeared as clueless as the audience regarding his company's incoming triple-A title.

"'It's going to be a jammer, I promise you that.' I remember that he kept saying that word to describe the game. 'Jammer'. Everything was a 'jammer'. And he kept referring to the power armor as 'the robot man'. It was bizarre."

After several minutes, PAX staff attempted to end the session when Hines abruptly jumped off the stage and began a "reverse Q&A" with the audience. "He was jamming the microphone in peoples' faces and asking them questions like...'how much would you pay for a game you knew wasn't going to be good?' and 'do you think I'm a human being?' The staff was sort of discreetly chasing him around the theater but he kept slipping by them."

FALLOUT 4 releases November 10th.

Cream-of-Plenty fucked around with this message at 06:56 on Oct 30, 2015

frajaq
Jan 30, 2009

#acolyte GM of 2014


:golfclap:

Atomic Robo-Kid
Aug 18, 2008

.Blast.Processing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pao3XO_qXtw

Unboxing of the Ps4 Pipboy Edition.

Cthulhuite
Mar 22, 2007

Shwmae!
Christ, that Pip Boy looks like cheap plastic crap.

Morzhovyye
Mar 2, 2013

Shocking. Who could have predicted this?

LornMarkus
Nov 8, 2011

Odobenidae posted:

Shocking. Who could have predicted this?

Yeah, fact is if you want something like that to not look embarrassing, you really do have to either do it yourself or pay out the rear end to someone else to do a custom job on it. Cause just the leather for the mounting band alone is gonna be way more expensive then they'd be willing to pay per unit.

Jobbo_Fett
Mar 7, 2014

Slava Ukrayini

Clapping Larry

Odobenidae posted:

Shocking. Who could have predicted this?

Merry Magpie

Gonkish
May 19, 2004

As long as the game isn't complete rear end I don't really mind the whales/super nerds having a lovely plastic crap pip boy.

Pwnstar
Dec 9, 2007

Who wants some waffles?

I can't believe Todd "Iago" Howard could lead us astray like this.

Chalks
Sep 30, 2009

To be fair if fallout 4 isn't a buggy piece of poo poo at launch I'm going to ask for my money back because I didn't sign up for some "spent time on QA" piece of software when I decided to preorder a fallout game.

FronzelNeekburm
Jun 1, 2001

STOP, MORTTIME

Chalks posted:

To be fair if fallout 4 isn't a buggy piece of poo poo at launch I'm going to ask for my money back because I didn't sign up for some "spent time on QA" piece of software when I decided to preorder a fallout game.
The scripted Deathclaw leaps out of the burrow, snarling and swinging its razor-sharp claws at John Fallout.

It then runs backwards, faster and faster, until it clips up the side of a building and flies off into space.

Vikar Jerome
Nov 26, 2013

I believe Emmanuelle is shit, though Emmanuelle 2, Emmanuelle '77 and Goodbye, Emmanuelle may be very good movies.
https://twitter.com/ChampChong/status/660047094338596864

Dumb looking youtube guy with a puncable face has the inferior xbox game.

Siljmonster
Dec 16, 2005

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

Vikar Jerome posted:

https://twitter.com/ChampChong/status/660047094338596864

Dumb looking youtube guy with a puncable face has the inferior xbox game.

is that an ad for the season pass?

7c Nickel
Apr 27, 2008

Honestly, the pip boy box is the most appealing part of that aside from the game disc. Maybe I'll try and pick one up later.

TorakFade
Oct 3, 2006

I strongly disapprove


So does this mean the cat is out of the bag and we will have more info soon, or it's just reviewers under NDAs so we are out of luck?

Mulva
Sep 13, 2011
Probation
Can't post for 5 hours!
Game is like two weeks out, you are absolutely in the "Any minute now" zone of leaks.

sout
Apr 24, 2014

7c Nickel posted:

Honestly, the pip boy box is the most appealing part of that aside from the game disc. Maybe I'll try and pick one up later.

I dunno dude I like bananas a fair amount

upgunned shitpost
Jan 21, 2015

At this moment, it's both the greatest hiking and homicide simulator ever released and the most bug-ridden piece of poo poo put to disc in out lifetime.

Savor this moment friends, for it is fleeting.

ymgve
Jan 2, 2004


:dukedog:
Offensive Clock

TorakFade posted:

So does this mean the cat is out of the bag and we will have more info soon, or it's just reviewers under NDAs so we are out of luck?

I think he's not a reviewer since he was going to make a Let's Play. Time to go dark if you don't want to be spoiled, I guess.

John F Bennett
Jan 30, 2013

I always wear my wedding ring. It's my trademark.

Is he even allowed to post a Let's Play before the 10th?

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sout
Apr 24, 2014

John F Bennett posted:

Is he even allowed to post a Let's Play before the 10th?

I would suspect so, I'm pretty sure this sort of thing has happened before. It might be quite controlled what he's allowed to show but maybe not: all us dumbasses have already pre-ordered.

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