Paingod556 posted:Dude, some people haven't played Wolf-TNC yet. Spoil that poo poo ????? ??? ??????
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The ultimate edition is 50% off on steam.
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Nov 24, 2017 21:47
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Is the h3h3 pack worth it? Any goonpressions? Also, what are """""""good""""""" gimmick builds to consider?
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Nov 25, 2017 00:22
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EorayMel posted:Is the h3h3 pack worth it? Any goonpressions? The only good gimmick is frenzy anarchist & it's taken.
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Nov 25, 2017 00:38
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EorayMel posted:Also, what are """""""good""""""" gimmick builds to consider? ICTV Sicario 
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Nov 25, 2017 00:39
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YET ANOTHER FAG posted:The only good gimmick is frenzy anarchist & it's taken. Frenzy Anarchist isn't a gimmick.
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Nov 25, 2017 01:13
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Yardbomb posted:ICTV Sicario I did that when I roleplayed as Wario doing a bunch of loud Golden Grins
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Nov 25, 2017 03:32
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Thanks for your feedback! Current plans, based on this info and responses so far here and elsewhere: 1. I need to see if an entire train of coal car, tanker car, coal car, barrel car, tanker car, coal car, Headset car is possible. That day is likely to be either really easy or completely nightmarish to edit. 2. DV Aftershock plans: 4 trucks, with 4 safes in each, for a total of 16 safes. This will make safe travels (pun, lol) relatively straightforward. I might bump this up to 20, but it'd still be lower than my original plan of 6 trucks with 6 safes each. 3. You've indicated that SWAT van turrets are most enjoyable and work best as a thing for people to enjoy, rather than hanging out waiting for it to repair and grind off its HP. On Mayhem and up in the normal game, explosives have a 7x damage multiplier against both the shield and turret at all times. The turret has 400,000 HP (and a massive damage multiplier), and its shield has 7000 HP. A single attack cannot damage the shield by more than 3500 damage and the turret by more than 42000 damage. Messiness with explosive damage and order of operations means it's still possible to take off the shield with a single arbiter round. It takes 8 seconds to reload and 30 seconds to repair. Turrets on MH and up can fire for 48 seconds before needing to reload, with lower difficulty turrets able to fire for 24 seconds. Death Vox SWAT Van Turrets (tentative) Death Vox SWAT Van Turrets cannot be destroyed. They will repair themselves an indefinite number of times. The shield will have about 6000 health. The explosive damage multiplier will be further reduced to 3x, making it less possible to annihilate the shield with a single explosion, but still making explosives preferable for making turrets retract. At present, I am planning that reload time will not change, and repair time might shrink a bit, to maybe 25 seconds. ECMs will still work on turrets. I would probably set Turret ammo at 24 seconds, the overkill and below firing capacity. Helicopter and ceiling turrets will not be effected by these changes (I am planning to increase the health of some ceiling turrets). In general, Turrets will be much, much more common on Death Vox. What do folks think of these changes? Discendo Vox fucked around with this message at 06:36 on Nov 25, 2017 |
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Nov 25, 2017 06:23
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You PC guys are humble players. Console just got Brooklyn- which might be the most hype job since Diamond Museum.
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Nov 25, 2017 08:19
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Discendo Vox posted:Thanks for your feedback! Current plans, based on this info and responses so far here and elsewhere:
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Nov 25, 2017 10:16
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swims posted:You PC guys are humble players. Console just got Brooklyn- which might be the most hype job since Diamond Museum. I hate that drat heist, mostly because it was utterly broken on PC when it was released.
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Nov 25, 2017 11:30
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It's still pretty broken and bad.
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Nov 25, 2017 14:49
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Ask literally anyone about the time a shield spawning magically shoved one of the crew through a window, out of reach of everyone else.
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Nov 25, 2017 15:35
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Of the "new ones" for console I still haven't ran green bridge, panic room or scarface yet. There might be one more. We got those plus prison, heat street, yacht and brooklyn. I'm sure there is something I'm missing about it but Yacht has not clicked with me. The music for it is kinda cool I guess. I tried it a few times and I get that the computer thing shows where the bags are but I haven't played enough to know all the areas. The update also gave us the chainsaw and the Russian machete thing. Other than guys running around with electric knuckles or the poison shank the Russian machete appears to be a flat out better choice than all other melee weapons. The chainsaw is cool and fun. swims fucked around with this message at 16:16 on Nov 25, 2017 |
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Nov 25, 2017 16:09
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Katana and ice pick are king of poo poo melee mountain.
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Nov 25, 2017 20:09
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UnknownMercenary posted:Katana and ice pick are king of poo poo melee mountain. Kunai knife says hello
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Nov 25, 2017 20:20
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frenzy and stoic do not mix.
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Nov 25, 2017 20:32
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spit on my clit posted:frenzy and stoic do not mix.
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Nov 25, 2017 21:24
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maswastaken posted:No poo poo. Why would you take the skill that basic math will tell you will get you killed exactly two and half times as quickly? i meant more that it displays your armor bar, despite you not having any armor. ooooooor maybe that was just a one-time glitch, nevermind. also i took it because i love making terrible builds, but yeah this one just doesn't work, sadly.
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Nov 25, 2017 21:34
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Another thread poll: what are the most annoying swat van turrets to deal with in the game? Put differently, which ones would be a huge problem/annoyance if they were unkillable?
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Nov 25, 2017 21:44
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EorayMel posted:Is the h3h3 pack worth it? Any goonpressions? I need to update my steam guide for Stoic and Tag Team still but other than that it still holds. Stoic's real fun and real dumb, btw. A Stoic with Crew Chief/Gambler support might as well be invulnerable. Stoic + Kingpin in a team swapping who draws aggro turns Payday2 into ArmyOfTwo.
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Nov 25, 2017 22:28
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Discendo Vox posted:Another thread poll: what are the most annoying swat van turrets to deal with in the game? Put differently, which ones would be a huge problem/annoyance if they were unkillable?
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Nov 25, 2017 22:44
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Meltdown swat turrets assuming they blocked entrances and didn't move would be impossible. Dogs 1 turret can and has wiped out crews. If the turret on slaughterhouse shows up before enough bags are moved that one is brutal also. If you're making a boss turret just be nice and make it frames 2. Technically I would suggest a pure boss turret should be regular bank.
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Nov 25, 2017 23:16
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Discendo Vox posted:Another thread poll: what are the most annoying swat van turrets to deal with in the game? Put differently, which ones would be a huge problem/annoyance if they were unkillable? 1) Heat Street. Since you're required to not just walk past it (possibly repeatedly) but to do so slowly while escorting Matt, it's amazingly frustrating. Doubly so, as Mas said, with the one partway up the hill since you combine that with even less cover and it has a firing angle on the escape zone. 2) Slaughterhouse. Being required to haul heavy gold bags past it at point-blank with almost zero cover. Worse, since the area's also under sniper overwatch. 3) Biker Heist day 1 can be a real pain in the rear end. Depending on where the truck spawns and what parts you have to get, it can be almost mandatory to destroy. If it isn't, it's still frustrating. A few others are really annoying depending on factors (Birth of Sky depending on the manhole/last pallet locations; HoxVenge if you've got a heli pickup on the garage roof), but those three are the ones where an unkillable turret would be likely to wipe a team.
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Nov 25, 2017 23:20
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OK, this is all really useful to know, thanks for responding! To be clear, changes to turrets will be one of the last things we implement, along with changes to heists- and the two will have to go hand in hand to some extent because of precisely the problems y'all mention. Right now we're just trying to figure out a heist we can edit as a test of heist editing generally. I'm not the sort of person to send out five bazillion changes that ruin gameplay without testing the poo poo out of things first.
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Nov 25, 2017 23:36
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UnknownMercenary posted:Katana and ice pick are king of poo poo melee mountain. Buzzer/electric knuckles because they can stop cloakers from downing you without the need to get counterstrike.
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Nov 26, 2017 04:03
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When you say unkillable, we are still talking about infinitely repairing and not literally invincible, right? In that case it's pretty much any turret that the players need to be within range of for an extended duration and with minimal cover/excessive cop pushback. So the Slaughterhouse one and stuff like Trustee Bank's twins would be largely fine because you could knock them out during the bag haul and then push onward, but the Biker and Heat Street ones would be hell. Not sure how to feel about Goat Sim Day 2. Were you planning on looking at turrets' anti-armor spell?
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Nov 26, 2017 08:35
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I've finally got ethan and hila. yes, time to play as the true crime dad.
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Nov 26, 2017 19:47
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So I just knocked out reputation beyond reproach with 3 random pubs and we all saw and killed about 20 cops each, tops. I was the host. Brought c4 and first aid kits and shat them out wherever I walked. Enemies presence seemed extremely lax. Did I get really lucky or did spawn rates change across the board? Or are cops that allergic to c4?
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Nov 27, 2017 03:16
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What heist were you playing?
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Nov 27, 2017 04:53
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David D. Davidson posted:What heist were you playing? Breaking Ballot, AKA Day 2 of Election Day when you tag the wrong truck. Done for Reputation Beyond Reproach.
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David D. Davidson posted:What heist were you playing? RBR is the achievement for a no downs/cloaks deathwish run of breaking ballot, the day 3 (loud) of election day. I assume he either has a potato PC or he broke spawns somehow.
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John Murdoch posted:When you say unkillable, we are still talking about infinitely repairing and not literally invincible, right? In that case it's pretty much any turret that the players need to be within range of for an extended duration and with minimal cover/excessive cop pushback. So the Slaughterhouse one and stuff like Trustee Bank's twins would be largely fine because you could knock them out during the bag haul and then push onward, but the Biker and Heat Street ones would be hell. Not sure how to feel about Goat Sim Day 2. Correct, infinite repairs. I need to figure out the specifics, but yeah, explosives will be effective on turret shields, but not nearly as powerful. Probably a shield would be two rockets, or several GL rounds.
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Grapplejack posted:RBR is the achievement for a no downs/cloaks deathwish run of breaking ballot, the day 3 (loud) of election day. I assume he either has a potato PC or he broke spawns somehow. No mention of turret fuckery, so I'm assuming the host had a garbage PC. vv it can still run on a lower framerate. You're not getting the full effect of the AI until you hit triple digit framerates. UnknownMercenary fucked around with this message at 11:49 on Nov 27, 2017 |
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Nov 27, 2017 06:11
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Not so fast. Coulda been console which is verified maxed version of the game FYI
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Discendo Vox posted:Correct, infinite repairs. I need to figure out the specifics, but yeah, explosives will be effective on turret shields, but not nearly as powerful. Probably a shield would be two rockets, or several GL rounds. Leave it to me to make a joke and then not be understood. Armor suppression, have you considered looking at it?
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John Murdoch posted:Leave it to me to make a joke and then not be understood. Armor suppression, have you considered looking at it?
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AAAAA! Real Muenster posted:I would agree that this would need looking at - it can suppress you around corners from miles away and can be pretty damning (I'm looking at you, the one down the street (not right outside of) the garage entrance on Hoxbreak day 1 - it has suppressed my armor regen through the whole heist more than once. This was fixed months ago. It was the same fix that also nerfed the poo poo out of dodge and most damage reduction skills.
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Hey so barring any serious changes bigger than new heists or packs, I don't really plan on updating the OP any time soon, so if anyone wants to take the reign and make a new thread one of these days, PM me or something.
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Just rename this Payday 2: Console thread and it will actually already be updated and future proof for months to come. So after running anarchist frenzy berserker for months I've been toying with exact build and mixed in sicario instead since it is new. Suit @ 75. I'm getting beat up pretty good but at times it feels legit. The smoke bomb is super cool and I kinda get the mechanic of it. Nothing else to really add to that. I just soloed a dogs with it (4 bags only, DW) so that is something I guess. I did get the grom iron sight attachment which is also cool. The "new" smgs both appear to be lame.
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