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ff16's plot would have been better if it was more 'anime', not less
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Apr 22, 2024 18:57
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Suikoden 2 was anime tropsey as all hell. That was most of the reason permabanned (?) allegedly-problematic poster Azure Horizon hated Nanami so much.
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Apr 22, 2024 18:58
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The highlight of FF16 are the giant loving absurd anime kaiju fights so I feel like if anything it needs more of those.
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Apr 22, 2024 18:58
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Fobby posted:Suikoden 2 was anime tropsey as all hell. That was most of the reason permabanned (?) allegedly-problematic poster Azure Horizon hated Nanami so much. wasnt that guy a rapist?
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Apr 22, 2024 18:59
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Fobby posted:Suikoden 2 was anime tropsey as all hell. That was most of the reason permabanned (?) allegedly-problematic poster Azure Horizon hated Nanami so much.
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Apr 22, 2024 19:00
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The US release of Suikoden 2 if I remember right was so buggy they had to release a new version to disk on PS1 some time after launch. So it’s actually authentic to the experience.
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Apr 22, 2024 19:02
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I don't know if they ever released a new version in the US but they fixed some of the bugs for the EU version (that came out like two years later).
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Apr 22, 2024 19:04
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Stexils posted:wasnt that guy a rapist? he bragged about getting his straight friends nearly blackout drunk and then having anal sex with them so he could then call them gay and talked about 'straight guys often arent actually straight' yes it owned because he didnt get banned for that post for like 2 months and people said calling him a rapist was homophobia
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Apr 22, 2024 19:05
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i see. that does sound problematic.
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Apr 22, 2024 19:07
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Endorph posted:ff16's plot would have been better if it was more 'anime', not less ff16 honesty just looks bland. i played and I just couldn't enjoy like I did with the ff7 remake. also the cacutars are ugly and generic in 16
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Apr 22, 2024 19:08
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Sakurazuka posted:I don't know if they ever released a new version in the US but they fixed some of the bugs for the EU version (that came out like two years later). That’s what I’m thinking about I think.
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Apr 22, 2024 19:11
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A Suikoden game where the main character has no personality......
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Apr 22, 2024 19:11
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ImpAtom posted:It absolute is, but the political stuff always goes hand-in-hand with the magical stuff. The True Runes are by definition at the center of the plot and drive huge chunks of the story, serving as combination symbols and WMDs, with larger than life individuals being given positions of power by having them. Luc made a pretty good case in Suikoden 3 that all of history in the Suikoden universe is driven by the True Runes conflicting with eachother but everyone hated that along with other aspects of Suikoden 3 so they ignored the game ever happened.
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Apr 22, 2024 19:12
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Janissary Hop posted:Luc made a pretty good case that all of history in the Suikoden universe is driven by the True Runes conflicting with eachother but everyone hated that so they ignored the game ever happened. Honestly that's basically text in the first game and absolutely text in the second game where the Bright Shield and Black Sword are explicitly driving conflicts.
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Apr 22, 2024 19:13
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Endorph posted:he bragged about getting his straight friends nearly blackout drunk and then having anal sex with them so he could then call them gay and talked about 'straight guys often arent actually straight' yes Stexils posted:i see. that does sound problematic. I had apparently missed some of the details on that that led to me incorrectly understating it. Guess that's the word association I'm going to get whenever somebody complains about Suikoden-level anime tropes ruining something from now on... Don't get me wrong, though- there are definitely some anime tropes that ruin things for me.
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Apr 22, 2024 19:13
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I hate to be a stick in the mud but it's a little much to associate bad video game opinions with being a rapist and a graphic summary attached.
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Apr 22, 2024 19:15
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The nice thing about playing the new SaGa first instead of Eiyuden is that even if it's buggy it'd be impossible to tell one way or another. Alternatively the bugs will let me kill god with a chainsaw.
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Apr 22, 2024 19:16
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stop saying tropes!!! you are an adult!!! say motif!!! it makes you sound like a pretentious rear end in a top hat but its better than sounding like a immature nerd who has too many opinions about marvel movies!!!!
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Apr 22, 2024 19:16
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Did Konami ever give a reason for stopping developing/publishing Suikoden games or is it all just wrapped up in their general retreat from gaming into gambling?
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Apr 22, 2024 19:18
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Janissary Hop posted:Did Konami ever give a reason for stopping developing/publishing Suikoden games or is it all just wrapped up in their general retreat from gaming into gambling? what happened to that remaster?
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Apr 22, 2024 19:19
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Janissary Hop posted:Did Konami ever give a reason for stopping developing/publishing Suikoden games or is it all just wrapped up in their general retreat from gaming into gambling. The PS2 era lead to a significant rise in the production costs of JRPGs without a connected rise in audience, so that only a handful of big franchises could reliably make a profit. The addition of voice acting alone really started to stretch things and indie/digital distribution stuff hadn't really taken off either. There's a reason so many developers went to handheld in that era.
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Apr 22, 2024 19:19
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I said come in! posted:what happened to that remaster? Coming in 2023. We promise.
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Apr 22, 2024 19:20
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Snooze Cruise posted:stop saying tropes!!! you are an adult!!! say motif!!! it makes you sound like a pretentious rear end in a top hat but its better than sounding like a immature nerd who has too many opinions about marvel movies!!!! tropes and motif arent really the same thing at all tho
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Apr 22, 2024 19:20
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I said come in! posted:what happened to that remaster? I was willing to swear that they would release it at the same time as Eiyuden just to be their usual petty selves but apparently they don't have it together enough to even do that.
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Apr 22, 2024 19:20
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ImpAtom posted:Honestly that's basically text in the first game and absolutely text in the second game where the Bright Shield and Black Sword are explicitly driving conflicts. or the beast rune making luca even crazier and bloodthirsty
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Apr 22, 2024 19:21
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Cliche (noun) is probably more accurate but people react even more negatively to that. Archtype maybe.
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Apr 22, 2024 19:21
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mycot posted:I hate to be a stick in the mud but it's a little much to associate bad video game opinions with being a rapist and a graphic summary attached. There's no explicit implications, of course. It's just going to pop up in my head the same way that guy already did when people talk about anime in Suikoden, but now it's worse.
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Apr 22, 2024 19:21
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Endorph posted:tropes and motif arent really the same thing at all tho nah you can use them interchangeably
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Apr 22, 2024 19:21
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some people use motif as reoccurring theme in an individual story, others use it as reoccurring elements throughout all stories
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Apr 22, 2024 19:23
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or just say whatever seems good and dont be such a baby about words you dislike
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Apr 22, 2024 19:23
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Huh, Skald finally has a launch date. https://twitter.com/SkaldRpg/status/1782387820474069365 I remember hearing about it in 2018 but didn't really follow it much over the years.
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Apr 22, 2024 19:24
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babypolis posted:or just say whatever seems good and dont be such a baby about words you dislike OK Cuck!
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Apr 22, 2024 19:25
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Hogama posted:Huh, Skald finally has a launch date. Ultima inspired?
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Apr 22, 2024 19:26
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I said come in! posted:Ultima inspired?
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Apr 22, 2024 19:29
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I don't remember a single thing about the fantasy politics of Suikoden 2, but I do remember that the villain was the evilest person ever and also unkillable because of his ability to shout really loud that he didn't want to die yet. This made him insanely popular among anyone who played the game.
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Apr 22, 2024 19:32
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If you want like a serious answer why anime tropes in particularly is annoying I seen people on these forums refer from everything to like shouty sword guys to actual creepy poo poo as anime tropes. Like personally when there is a creep stuff in something I rather people just you know, use language that conveys that instead of just being like "well you see its very anime-y" which could mean a thousand things,which just dismisses the seriousness of bad stuff with the meaningless meme word. Anyway the person with the username with baby in it called me a baby and I am so pissed... Snooze Cruise fucked around with this message at 19:44 on Apr 22, 2024 |
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Apr 22, 2024 19:41
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Snooze Cruise posted:I just got word that SaGa Emerald Beyond has zero anime tropes. Please tell your family and friends. Persona 4 is awesome but I never really got much of a "this is an LGBT game" vibe from it. I mean Kanji and Naoto's thing is kinda sorta "maybe gay is OK", except then you find out Naoto is a girl and the game basically implies Kanji was attracted to her "because girl vibes", not because he's gay/bi.
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Apr 22, 2024 19:47
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Annath posted:Persona 4 is awesome but I never really got much of a "this is an LGBT game" vibe from it. I mean yes I agree, the game does a weird thing of implying lgbt identify and swerving away from it. People play the game as teenagers and with distance the former sticks with them more than the later.
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Apr 22, 2024 19:54
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I honestly can't wrap my head around someone not believing Suikoden games aren't always 100% reliant on "tropey anime nonsense" for their plot resolution, because every single one of them does. "And then True Rune Stuff Happened" is central to every single Suikoden game.
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Snooze Cruise posted:I mean yes I agree, the game does a weird thing of implying lgbt identify and swerving away from it. People play the game as teenagers and with distance the former sticks with them more than the later. Still in my top 5 RPGs though. Probably in my top 5 games tbh. I enjoyed it way more than I enjoyed 3 or 5.
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