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Ausnahmezustand in Berlin? Wat?
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# ? Jun 30, 2017 07:22 |
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# ? Jun 7, 2024 00:15 |
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I just got out of a daily call and everyone from Berlin is working from home because they can't get to work.
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# ? Jun 30, 2017 08:21 |
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Ehe für alle ist durch den Bundestag
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# ? Jun 30, 2017 08:37 |
Na endlich. Besser spät als nie, wobei es arg peinlich ist das sogar die Amis uns überholt haben.
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# ? Jun 30, 2017 08:43 |
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I'm ok w/ this
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# ? Jun 30, 2017 08:50 |
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same
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# ? Jun 30, 2017 09:02 |
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pidan posted:I'm ok w/ this the comedy factor would have been greater if it had remained an election promise for all parties except the CDU/CSU, with Merkel just nervously shuffling around and going "uh this is a question that needs careful consideration, by which I mean it's a stockpiled token conservative policy issue that might cost us two dozen conservative farmer votes in Bavaria if dropped, so we will hold off on completely agreeing with everyone else until after the election"
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# ? Jun 30, 2017 09:04 |
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I'm Glad Of It.
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# ? Jun 30, 2017 09:04 |
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Goa Tse-tung posted:that is some poo poo right here I looked up the numbers - we got 2.5 times the amount of rain of the rainiest MONTH in Hamburg (December) yesterday. That's all of yesterday, but it only started raining at noon. And it's STILL raining now. We got a quarter of our average YEARLY rainfall yesterday. Don't measure your dick at the Hauptstadt, binch All that said, I'm glad these guys made it in to work somehow against all odds
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# ? Jun 30, 2017 09:06 |
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whoop whoop should have happened way earlier, but glad it's through now
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# ? Jun 30, 2017 09:10 |
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I guess one problem I have with what happened this week is that it seems like a genius move by Merkel. She took a potentially huge campaign issue - and a stumbling block for basically ANY potential coalition - and went "I guess I don't really care about this anymore, might even waive the Fraktionszwang". It was all but certain that this alone would eventually get rid of the issue for her. She even got to vote "no" just to keep up conservative appearances. Granted, there's an extreme risk of her appearing arbitrary but if this works anything like the Atomausstieg and/or the Hungarian refugee thing, the only people who care have been screaming themselves hoarse on PI news for years already. And then the CDU will get like 60%, because really, what do the other parties have to offer that Merkel's CDU (potentially) doesn't? Basically, this is me IRL: quote:Johannes Kahrs, SPD-Abgeordneter, beschimpft die Bundeskanzlerin. "Das war peinlich und erbärmlich. Das ganze Geschwurbel steht mir bis hier. Vielen Dank für nichts, Frau Merkel." Sie habe die Entscheidung über Jahre hinausgezögert und die Diskriminierung von Schwulen und Lesben damit unterstützt.
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# ? Jun 30, 2017 09:42 |
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Smirr posted:I guess one problem I have with what happened this week is that it seems like a genius move by Merkel. She took a potentially huge campaign issue - and a stumbling block for basically ANY potential coalition - and went "I guess I don't really care about this anymore, might even waive the Fraktionszwang". It was all but certain that this alone would eventually get rid of the issue for her. She even got to vote "no" just to keep up conservative appearances. Granted, there's an extreme risk of her appearing arbitrary but if this works anything like the Atomausstieg and/or the Hungarian refugee thing, the only people who care have been screaming themselves hoarse on PI news for years already. And then the CDU will get like 60%, because really, what do the other parties have to offer that Merkel's CDU (potentially) doesn't?
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# ? Jun 30, 2017 09:48 |
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I also think it was obvious and yet you see a lot of people going "SHAME ON RRG FOR CRAMMING THIS DOWN OUR THROATS", when those same people really should be angry at Merkel. Well, I guess we're fully in "politics is a team sport" mode now, too.
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# ? Jun 30, 2017 09:51 |
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Smirr posted:I guess one problem I have with what happened this week is that it seems like a genius move by Merkel. She took a potentially huge campaign issue - and a stumbling block for basically ANY potential coalition - and went "I guess I don't really care about this anymore, might even waive the Fraktionszwang". It was all but certain that this alone would eventually get rid of the issue for her. She even got to vote "no" just to keep up conservative appearances. Granted, there's an extreme risk of her appearing arbitrary but if this works anything like the Atomausstieg and/or the Hungarian refugee thing, the only people who care have been screaming themselves hoarse on PI news for years already. And then the CDU will get like 60%, because really, what do the other parties have to offer that Merkel's CDU (potentially) doesn't? Well yeah, she is a competent politician. The main thing in your post seems to be this: "because really, what do the other parties have to offer that Merkel's CDU (potentially) doesn't?" Seems to me like you should get mad at the other parties for not standing for a program that's sufficiently different from Berlin consensus politics.
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# ? Jun 30, 2017 09:55 |
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botany posted:Well yeah, she is a competent politician. The main thing in your post seems to be this: "because really, what do the other parties have to offer that Merkel's CDU (potentially) doesn't?" Seems to me like you should get mad at the other parties for not standing for a program that's sufficiently different from Berlin consensus politics. Yeah, that's the flipside of the coin. The other parties COULD corner Merkel if they were competent, too. God, this Wahlkampf is gonna suck bigly
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# ? Jun 30, 2017 09:58 |
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Hab aus Sensationslust mal auf pi-news geschaut und nicht schlecht gestaunt, als ich hausechte Inzesterotikfantasien vorfand.quote:Umso bedenklicher ist der Fall der gleichgeschlechtlichen Adoption (zwei Adoptivväter, ein Adoptivsohn). Das Adoptivkind ist – aus Sicht der Adoptiveltern – geeigneter Sexualpartner für *beide* Eltern. Das bei heterosexuellen Adoptiveltern noch bestehende Gegengewicht, dass zumindest ein Adoptivelternteil eine Eltern-Kind-Sexualbeziehung sowieso ablehnt, besteht hier nicht mehr. Im Gegenteil, es sind problemlos Konstellationen denkbar, wo beide homosexuellen Adoptiveltern um die erotische Liebe ihres jugendlichen, attraktiven Adoptivkindes in Konkurrenz zueinander stehen. Insbesondere bei Männern, die sexuell aggressiver und deutlich promiskuitiver als Frauen sind, sind extreme innerfamiliäre Dreiecksgeschichten denkbar, wo Elternmänner sich scheiden lassen, weil beide ihren Adoptivsohn heiraten wollen.
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# ? Jun 30, 2017 10:01 |
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Smirr posted:I also think it was obvious and yet you see a lot of people going "SHAME ON RRG FOR CRAMMING THIS DOWN OUR THROATS", when those same people really should be angry at Merkel. Well, I guess we're fully in "politics is a team sport" mode now, too. People in this thread are falling for the shame poo poo if they think that Angie voted no to "keep up appearances" because they just don't want to believe that she's a conservative shithead like the rest of them.
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# ? Jun 30, 2017 10:03 |
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Of course it's a cynical move by Merkel, and MY GAY FRIENDS definitely feel like they're just ploys in some game for votes, but still, I'm happy this has happened.Honj Steak posted:Hab aus Sensationslust mal auf pi-news geschaut und nicht schlecht gestaunt, als ich hausechte Inzesterotikfantasien vorfand.
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# ? Jun 30, 2017 10:03 |
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Reden wir das mal nicht schlecht, ein guter Tag.
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# ? Jun 30, 2017 10:14 |
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Cingulate posted:I think they're arguing we should, if possible, restrict families to lesbian couples who adopt boys, maybe gay couples who adopt girls, and try to avoid any other constellations, like e.g. a hetero couple having children with genitals? Clearly by that logic, hetero couples shouldn't be allowed to adopt any children at all. By which I mean this is a garbage argument made by garbage people, just ignore it to celebrate with the rest of us humans
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# ? Jun 30, 2017 10:17 |
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Smirr posted:Yeah, that's the flipside of the coin. The other parties COULD corner Merkel if they were competent, too. God, this Wahlkampf is gonna suck bigly I feel like the Wahlkampf is going to be a big irrelevant show at the end of which the CDU will continue to reign as before, tbh. I'm not expecting anything of actual interest to happen, which in itself is a good metaphor for life in Germany.
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# ? Jun 30, 2017 10:20 |
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RRG had a majority for years. It's not Merkel's fault that the leftist filth waits for her approval before voting on stuff they claim to consider important.
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# ? Jun 30, 2017 11:13 |
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I'm disappointed Bild isn't celebratory botany posted:I feel like the Wahlkampf is going to be a big irrelevant show at the end of which the CDU will continue to reign as before, tbh. I'm not expecting anything of actual interest to happen, which in itself is a good metaphor for life in Germany. Randler posted:RRG had a majority for years. It's not Merkel's fault that the leftist filth waits for her approval before voting on stuff they claim to consider important.
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# ? Jun 30, 2017 11:19 |
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Cingulate posted:I'm disappointed Bild isn't celebratory WIRD SIND SCHWUL
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# ? Jun 30, 2017 11:28 |
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Sereri posted:WIRD SIND SCHWUL Should have celebrated with a hot naked beefcake instead of tits on page 3
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# ? Jun 30, 2017 11:36 |
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Congrats German goons.
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# ? Jun 30, 2017 11:37 |
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Finally it's legal to use these 👬👭👨❤💋👨👩❤💋👩👨❤👨👨👨👦👦👨👨👧👧👩👩👧 emojis in Germany
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# ? Jun 30, 2017 11:40 |
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Lunar Suite posted:Na endlich. Besser spät als nie, wobei es arg peinlich ist das sogar die Amis uns überholt haben. Immerhin war es unser Parlament und nicht das Verfassungsgericht, dass das mal eben durchgedrückt hat. Moralischer Sieg!
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# ? Jun 30, 2017 11:46 |
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oliwan posted:Finally it's legal to use these 👬👭👨❤💋👨👩❤💋👩👨❤👨👨👨👦👦👨👨👧👧👩👩👧 emojis in Germany Actually no, they're considered hate speech under the new Netzwerkdurchsetzungsgesetz /e: probably caused Randler to bleed from the nose
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# ? Jun 30, 2017 11:48 |
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Smirr posted:I also think it was obvious and yet you see a lot of people going "SHAME ON RRG FOR CRAMMING THIS DOWN OUR THROATS", when those same people really should be angry at Merkel. Well, I guess we're fully in "politics is a team sport" mode now, too. Ehe für Alle had a majority of 75 and 83 % in the last surveys I've seen. The people getting their knickers in a twist are a small minority of Ewiggestriger.
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# ? Jun 30, 2017 11:53 |
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Nobnob posted:Immerhin war es unser Parlament und nicht das Verfassungsgericht, dass das mal eben durchgedrückt hat. Moralischer Sieg! I was about to brag that none of our politicians has called this the first step towards the downfall of our very society, but lol: http://www.zeit.de/politik/deutschland/2017-06/reaktionen-abstimmung-ehe-fuer-alle-bundestag posted:An dieses Gebot mag sich die AfD nicht halten. "Merkel-CDU verramscht Ehe auf dem Altar des Machterhalts. Nach Angaben eines Sprechers prüfe die Partei eine mögliche Verfassungsklage. Die Ehe zwischen Mann und Frau sei ein "kulturelles Kernelement unserer christlich-abendländischen Kultur", sagte Partei-Vize Alexander Gauland. Die AfD trete gegen eine Wertebeliebigkeit ein, "die in letzter Instanz unsere gesellschaftlichen Strukturen und unser Fortkommen auflöst". Double lol: https://twitter.com/FraukePetry/sta...-alle-bundestag "It's terrible that the established parties use their influence to constantly overrule the will of the people. But in this case they totally should have!" Perestroika fucked around with this message at 12:00 on Jun 30, 2017 |
# ? Jun 30, 2017 11:58 |
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Does anyone really say "abendländischen Kultur" irl outside of the AfD? It's probably perfectly fine German but it sounds incredibly weird and offputting.
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# ? Jun 30, 2017 12:01 |
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Cingulate posted:Similarly, if you find someone on the far-right spectrum and ask them, they'll say "it's Genderwahnsinn and schleichende Islamisierung", and that'll be just as relevant to your day-to-day life, i.e., not at all. You don't have to be on the far-right spectrum to be somewhat/massively annoyed by the Genderwahnsinn. Especially what they propose to do to the language. IMHO more damaging to feminism than helping it progress. Also: Ehe für alle
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# ? Jun 30, 2017 12:01 |
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Hambilderberglar posted:Does anyone really say "abendländischen Kultur" irl outside of the AfD? It's probably perfectly fine German but it sounds incredibly weird and offputting. it's a dogwhistle for "white, christian, ethnically german", so nobody outside of the educated far right uses it. dogboy posted:You don't have to be on the far-right spectrum to be somewhat/massively annoyed by the Genderwahnsinn. Especially what they propose to do to the language. and the hot takes start
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# ? Jun 30, 2017 12:04 |
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dogboy posted:You don't have to be on the far-right spectrum to be somewhat/massively annoyed by the Genderwahnsinn. Especially what they propose to do to the language. Let me guess, you are a heterosexual white male? Thanks for your valuable input 👍
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# ? Jun 30, 2017 12:06 |
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Liebe AfD, ich habe bereits die Möglichkeit einer Verfassungsklage durch euch analysiert. Die Antwort reimt sich mit lolgo. Das macht 5.000 Euro.
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# ? Jun 30, 2017 12:06 |
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Hambilderberglar posted:Does anyone really say "abendländischen Kultur" irl outside of the AfD? It's probably perfectly fine German but it sounds incredibly weird and offputting.
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# ? Jun 30, 2017 12:08 |
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oliwan posted:Let me guess, you are a heterosexual white male? Thanks for your valuable input 👍 Is this important for you? https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geschlechtergerechte_Sprache If yes: why? Bonus points: Make a classic poem of your choice gender neutral and then recite it and try to keep a straight face.
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# ? Jun 30, 2017 12:12 |
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Perestroika posted:I was about to brag that none of our politicians has called this the first step towards the downfall of our very society, but lol: The good thing about the AfD is that they are way too incompetent and disorganized to do any verfassungsklags
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# ? Jun 30, 2017 12:12 |
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# ? Jun 7, 2024 00:15 |
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dogboy posted:Is this important for you? https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geschlechtergerechte_Sprache I guess you still use Neger in daily speech, seeing as classical literature also uses it? Hint: if you want to approach a super complex issue like language change and language planning, try to think it through a little bit before coming up with some tenth grade persuasive speech arguments either way.
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# ? Jun 30, 2017 12:20 |