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Watching the 'Riker wakes up in hospital after being injured just prior to first contact' episode, and I'm amazed that nobody ever thinks to brief field agents with a cover story beyond 'my name is Mr. Snrub and I'm from someplace far away'. [e] Picard makes first diplomatic contact, then immediately takes them down the pub. There's other places on the ship with windows, but 
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so I could say that I finally figured out what this god damned cube is doing. Get well Lowtax.
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spincube posted:Watching the 'Riker wakes up in hospital after being injured just prior to first contact' episode, and I'm amazed that nobody ever thinks to brief field agents with a cover story beyond 'my name is Mr. Snrub and I'm from someplace far away'. Is that the "ho ho ho, pressuring a prisoner into sex in exchange for helping them escape is totally ok and actually funny" episode?
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Jun 10, 2017 19:49
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Tsaedje posted:Is that the "ho ho ho, pressuring a prisoner into sex in exchange for helping them escape is totally ok and actually funny" episode? Yes, although for some reason I always mix it up with the 'Commander, tell me about your sexual organs' episode. I love how they have to go through first contact on fast-forward: Picard cracks open the bottle of Chateau Picard he was given at the start of the fourth season which, although it's a great diplomatic and personal gesture, seems kind of risky to be feeding to an alien who that morning hadn't ever seen an extra-terrestrial.
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spincube posted:Yes, although for some reason I always mix it up with the 'Commander, tell me about your sexual organs' episode. At first I read that as "fist contact on fast forward" and now I think that would've been a better episode.
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Jun 10, 2017 20:23
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I always wanted to fist-bump an alien.
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Tsaedje posted:Is that the "ho ho ho, pressuring a prisoner into sex in exchange for helping them escape is totally ok and actually funny" episode? With Lilith no less, if I remember correctly.
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Jun 11, 2017 00:53
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Also it was totally OK and funny because there was a 100 percent chance Riker was thinking about that avenue of escape anyhow
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Jun 11, 2017 01:17
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spincube posted:Yes, although for some reason I always mix it up with the 'Commander, tell me about your sexual organs' episode. They had been studying the planet for a while already, so they probably knew what were good drugs/bad drugs for their physiology. Cabernet: indulge Ginger: avoid
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Tsaedje posted:Is that the "ho ho ho, pressuring a prisoner into sex in exchange for helping them escape is totally ok and actually funny" episode? You are entirely correct that there are all kinds of problems with it as presented, but it will never not be hilarious that there's an episode where Riker literally fucks his way out of a bad situation. I'm all for pointing out how gross Star Trek can be with these kinds of issues, but in this case it's really not that bad.
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Jun 11, 2017 04:42
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MikeJF posted:It's basically a running thing in Star Trek that disobeying orders and regulations is totally fine if you do it for good reasons and it all turns out all right in the end.
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Jun 11, 2017 04:58
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Tsaedje posted:Is that the "ho ho ho, pressuring a prisoner into sex in exchange for helping them escape is totally ok and actually funny" episode? It's Bebe Neuwirth. Even if it's an alien Bebe Neuwirth, you worry about the ethical ramifications after the fact.
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Nessus posted:I actually think this is somewhere where reliable telepaths could be part of a justice system, because motive would be much more transparent and could be taken into account in a much more objective way than is usual. It depends on whether you believe the fifth amendment is a fundamental right.
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Tsaedje posted:Is that the "ho ho ho, pressuring a prisoner into sex in exchange for helping them escape is totally ok and actually funny" episode? https://youtu.be/MZ1lc6KASWg
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Jun 11, 2017 06:29
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I don't think Frasier would like this.
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Jun 11, 2017 12:31
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The_Doctor posted:I don't think Frasier would like this. Trust me, he doesn't 
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The_Doctor posted:I don't think Frasier would like this. Why do you think she left him?
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Jun 11, 2017 13:22
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Well, he gets around.
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There's a lot to diss about Vic Fontaine and the cheesy bar set but my favorite is the distinctly 90's illuminated exit signs hanging over the doors like they're simulating a silly Vegas throwback bar instead of an actual 60's period bar
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Space Hamlet posted:There's a lot to diss about Vic Fontaine and the cheesy bar set but my favorite is the distinctly 90's illuminated exit signs hanging over the doors like they're simulating a silly Vegas throwback bar instead of an actual 60's period bar I love Vic but the bar set is garbage ugly
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Yeah all the Trek bar/lounge sets have a certain sanitized blandness to them. Ten Forward is an airport business lounge, the holodeck bar from Voyager is a chintzy tourist trap pretending to be gritty, and Vic's feels like one of those yuppie throwback bars where tedious people go to sit and sip overpriced whiskey, and all the decor is a dumb mishmash of prohibition gangster and Rat Pack Vegas poo poo, but sometimes they have good music
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I mean, even if it were completely period accurate, it looks terrible and so shouldn't be on the screen for any length of time. The colors and dumb curtain and name sign are butt ugly. They make a point of Vic's being history as-it-should-have-been re: race relations, so why not asthetics?
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The Bloop posted:They make a point of Vic's being history as-it-should-have-been re: race relations, so why not asthetics? A limited budget, I imagine. Curtains, especially LOTS of curtains are a lifesaver when trying to build a cheap set. Also Vic Fontaine is such a wonderful and wholesome character that I'll easily forgive any other aspect related to him
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Space Hamlet posted:There's a lot to diss about Vic Fontaine and the cheesy bar set but my favorite is the distinctly 90's illuminated exit signs hanging over the doors like they're simulating a silly Vegas throwback bar instead of an actual 60's period bar This used to bother me too, until I found out that they had signs that looked like that back then.
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Bohemian Nights posted:A limited budget, I imagine. Curtains, especially LOTS of curtains are a lifesaver when trying to build a cheap set. I get it, but it would even have been better to have period tables and patrons with big windows into space behind him or something. I agree with your second point and can forgive it, I just wish I didn't have to.
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Jun 11, 2017 19:28
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The_Doctor posted:Well, he gets around. What the gently caress is this from its driving me crazy like I've slidered into another universe where TNG had different uniforms.
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Baronjutter posted:What the gently caress is this from its driving me crazy like I've slidered into another universe where TNG had different uniforms. It's an episode of Cybill.
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Jun 11, 2017 20:54
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An episode of Cybill? Or a prequel to The Orvillle?
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Astroman posted:Trust me, he doesn't I know I've said this before, but I would still pay good money to see Kelsey Grammer doing Down Periscope, In Space
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Cojawfee posted:It's an episode of Cybill. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XwlX3gbgs_g What the gently caress
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Astroman posted:Trust me, he doesn't The Bozeman crew were lucky they got stuck in time before the uniform code took away their turtlenecks.
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Baronjutter posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XwlX3gbgs_g I'd like to think Frakes did this for a laugh and not that he needed the money.
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spincube posted:Watching the 'Riker wakes up in hospital after being injured just prior to first contact' episode, and I'm amazed that nobody ever thinks to brief field agents with a cover story beyond 'my name is Mr. Snrub and I'm from someplace far away'. When I saw that episode I was extremely frustrated with the alien race because they seemed almost Vulcan in how bad they were with managing strong emotions. Either "I love space so much!" Or "oh poo poo Martian invaders despite no actual evidence of aggression, gently caress everything!" Like I would imagine them not being any better off a few years down the line but would instead blindly attack the Enterprise with lasers first thing they do when they spot a vessel while the Federation crew just looked at them with confusion.
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Mister Kingdom posted:I'd like to think Frakes did this for a laugh and not that he needed the money. It was just after TNG finished airing, I think. So it was almost certainly for a laugh.
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Once TNG got established it seems like Frakes just does whatever the gently caress he wants. I imagine with the syndication and all he was set for life from TNG so why not.
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No Fucks Frakes.
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Jun 12, 2017 15:41
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Season 8 of TNG was actually called "Gargoyles"
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Grand Fromage posted:Once TNG got established it seems like Frakes just does whatever the gently caress he wants. I imagine with the syndication and all he was set for life from TNG so why not. That has to be the reason behind this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJ4MTSPWicE
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https://twitter.com/fancyfembot/status/873955870425612288 qapla'
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Uh. OK.
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I'm pretty sure you can't do that.
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