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What is the best flav... you all know what this question is:
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Labour 907 49.92%
Theresa May Team (Conservative) 48 2.64%
Liberal Democrats 31 1.71%
UKIP 13 0.72%
Plaid Cymru 25 1.38%
Green 22 1.21%
Scottish Socialist Party 12 0.66%
Scottish Conservative Party 1 0.06%
Scottish National Party 59 3.25%
Some Kind of Irish Unionist 4 0.22%
Alliance / Irish Nonsectarian 3 0.17%
Some Kind of Irish Nationalist 36 1.98%
Misc. Far Left Trots 35 1.93%
Misc. Far Right Fash 8 0.44%
Monster Raving Loony 49 2.70%
Space Navies Party 39 2.15%
Independent / Single Issue 2 0.11%
Can't Vote 188 10.35%
Won't Vote 8 0.44%
Spoiled Ballot 15 0.83%
Pissflaps 312 17.17%
Total: 1817 votes
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Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012

Regarde Aduck posted:

We have to accept that some factor has made the elderly in the country, side with the conservatives despite all factors. Nothing will stop them voting Tory. Why? Who the gently caress knows? I get the impression a lot of them are deeply unhappy and we have a politics of spite issue.

Consider the timeline. These are people who reached political maturity during the Sixties and (especially) the Seventies, and were old and secure enough that the North Sea oil boom under Thatcher resulted in a major quality-of-life improvement. Now Also remember that the blame for the economic decline of the Seventies was squarely placed on Labour for being too nice to workers, with nary a historical mention of the insane national suicide note that was the Conservatives' 1972 budget.

Their most important political memories are of a time period that the Tories own the national narrative on. That's difficult to overcome.

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ukle
Nov 28, 2005
Michael Crick is saying on Channel 4 news Corbyn is going to start a tour visiting the 60 seats he says that Labour needs to win in the next election. Very good idea, given how well he goes over in public and given the next election is likely under a year away.

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012

Kurtofan posted:

the torygraph indeed

On the other hand, we (deservedly) rag on the Graun a lot, but its readership really came through for us. :unsmith:

Gonzo McFee
Jun 19, 2010

Lord of the Llamas posted:

How does the FT have such low turnout?

It's a financial Liberal paper. Corbyn, while endorsed by a majority of economists and what's written in their paper, is harshly opposed by the FT editorial team. And May was shite.

Much like how The Sun was viciously anti Corbyn in the face of their mostly working class readership.

At the end of the day they didn't want Corbyn but they weren't enthusiastic about May, so many didn't bother to vote. It's also why we shouldn't rest on our laurels in case the Tories manage to get someone halfway human in.

Skinty McEdger
Mar 9, 2008

I have NEVER received the respect I deserve as the leader and founder of The Masterflock, the internet's largest and oldest Christopher Masterpiece fan group in all of history, and I DEMAND that changes. From now on, you will respect Skinty McEdger!

ukle posted:

Michael Crick is saying on Channel 4 news Corbyn is going to start a tour visiting the 60 seats he says that Labour needs to win in the next election. Very good idea, given how well he goes over in public and given the next election is likely under a year away.

Also he seems to performing best when he's campaigning, so keeping him in campaign mode throughout this parliament seems like the best idea.

I really like his PR team now, I honestly think that change was massive for him and the party.

Lord of the Llamas
Jul 9, 2002

EULER'VE TO SEE IT VENN SOMEONE CALLS IT THE WRONG THING AND PROVOKES MY WRATH

Skinty McEdger posted:

It's circulation is really comparatively low.

Doesn't explain why a (statistically significant) smaller proportion of its readers voted than any other broadsheet. It's down there with the Mirror.

Gonzo McFee posted:

It's a financial Liberal paper. Corbyn, while endorsed by a majority of economists and what's written in their paper, is harshly opposed by the FT editorial team. And May was shite.

Much like how The Sun was viciously anti Corbyn in the face of their mostly working class readership.

At the end of the day they didn't want Corbyn but they weren't enthusiastic about May, so many didn't bother to vote. It's also why we shouldn't rest on our laurels in case the Tories manage to get someone halfway human in.

I'd understand if it had a stronger showing for the liberals or whatever. But that FT readers are not more likely to vote than the nation as a whole? Maybe there's a confounding factor they didn't control for like "are you a foreign banker who isn't allowed to vote".

Cerebral Bore
Apr 21, 2010


Fun Shoe

mediadave posted:

Considering that a week ago an eternity of Tory government seemed likely, I'm not going to rush to declaring their death quite yet.

Especially since I remember the US pol thread going on about the Republican's demographic death before the 2016 election.

Difference is that the dems were (and are) dumb af and took that poo poo for granted whereas Corbs & his team busted their asses to win over the youngs.

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
https://www.indy100.com/article/british-swear-words-ranked-ofcom-7340446

:thunk:

Firos
Apr 30, 2007

Staying abreast of the latest developments in jam communism




Ginger? A swear word? What the ginger gently caress.

haakman
May 5, 2011

Take one from each column for your stripper name *picture of minion*

jBrereton
May 30, 2013
Grimey Drawer

Lord of the Llamas posted:

How does the FT have such low turnout?
Because neither option on offer (yeah okay the lib dems exist whatever) is good if you are a serious FT reader.

Diamond hard Tess May brexit that moves the City into the continent, utter disaster, Corbyn, obviously not great from their perspective either. Quite a lot of young people and Londoners read it which explains the fifty-fifty split on how they voted, though.

WeAreTheRomans
Feb 23, 2010

by R. Guyovich

No way should "feck" be a "medium" word. My 90 year old churchmouse granny would use "feck" on the regular

Gonzo McFee
Jun 19, 2010
I always recognise Beef Curtains.

jBrereton
May 30, 2013
Grimey Drawer
As if comedy term "punani" is as bad as "gash", I demand a steward's inquiry.

hookerbot 5000
Dec 21, 2009

Fanny isn't a strong swear word? I say it all the time - in church and everything (or I would if I happened to be in a church at any point and someone was being a fanny).

Kegluneq
Feb 18, 2011

Mr President, the physical reality of Prime Minister Corbyn is beyond your range of apprehension. If you'll just put on these PINKOVISION glasses...

WeAreTheRomans posted:

No way should "feck" be a "medium" word. My 90 year old churchmouse granny would use "feck" on the regular

Did she follow it with "Arse!" and "Girls!"?

Also this article is old as balls*


*potentially unacceptable before the watershed

Jippa
Feb 13, 2009
17m ago EU door remains open, Macron tells UK


Don't tease us monsieur.

spiderbot
Oct 21, 2012



I thought clunge was made up by Spike Milligan?

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro



Flaps, the most offensive word.

dead gay comedy forums
Oct 21, 2011


so I am seeing bullshit like this on the international (read mostly american) press

"Why the Rise of Corbyn's Labour Party Should Worry the West", on the Atlantic

good job lads you are putting back the fear of the international red wave

Regarde Aduck
Oct 19, 2012

c l o u d k i t t e n
Grimey Drawer

dead comedy forums posted:

so I am seeing bullshit like this on the international (read mostly american) press

"Why the Rise of Corbyn's Labour Party Should Worry the West", on the Atlantic

good job lads you are putting back the fear of the international red wave

Oh yeah it's not the overt rise of neo nazi youth. It's Corbyn and his desire for funded public services.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

I would like to see Britain return to an export economy, the principle export will be "the revolution".

crispix
Mar 28, 2015

Grand-Maman m'a raconté
(Les éditions des amitiés franco-québécoises)

Hello, dear

Regarde Aduck posted:

Oh yeah it's not the overt rise of neo nazi youth. It's Corbyn and his desire for funded public services.

FREE SCHOOL MEALS FOR CHILDREN?!?! Bury all your possessions immediately!!! :supaburn:

namesake
Jun 19, 2006

"When I was a girl, around 12 or 13, I had a fantasy that I'd grow up to marry Captain Scarlet, but he'd be busy fighting the Mysterons so I'd cuckold him with the sexiest people I could think of - Nigel Mansell, Pat Sharp and Mr. Blobby."

OwlFancier posted:

I would like to see Britain return to an export economy, the principle export will be "the revolution".

Unironically this.

Borrovan
Aug 15, 2013

IT IS ME.
🧑‍💼
I AM THERESA MAY


dead comedy forums posted:

so I am seeing bullshit like this on the international (read mostly american) press

"Why the Rise of Corbyn's Labour Party Should Worry the West", on the Atlantic

good job lads you are putting back the fear of the international red wave

I read the article to save you guys the bother:

quote:

ghoulish attitudes once considered extinct, like a zombified Tyrannosaurus Rex bubbling up out of the tar pits
...
left-wing
...
embrace of a virtual planet-wide rogue’s gallery of dictators and terrorists
...
extreme pacifism
...
anti-Semitism
...and the tldr version:

quote:

left-wing
They forgot "shoot to kill", "magical money tree" and "once slept with a black woman"!

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

dead comedy forums posted:

so I am seeing bullshit like this on the international (read mostly american) press

"Why the Rise of Corbyn's Labour Party Should Worry the West", on the Atlantic

good job lads you are putting back the fear of the international red wave
I love the ending "Had the party’s voters chosen a leader—from either the socialist or the centrist wing—without Corbyn’s creepy extremism, it probably would have won in a landslide." [citation needed]

Burnie would have won!

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro


OwlFancier posted:

I would like to see Britain return to an export economy, the principle export will be "the revolution".

:pusheen:

Perfect.

Regarde Aduck
Oct 19, 2012

c l o u d k i t t e n
Grimey Drawer

Borrovan posted:

I read the article to save you guys the bother:

...and the tldr version:

They forgot "shoot to kill", "magical money tree" and "once slept with a black woman"!

So is Corbyn an extreme pacifist or a terrorist?

Regarde Aduck fucked around with this message at 20:12 on Jun 13, 2017

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Regarde Aduck posted:

So is Corbyn a extreme pacifist or a terrorist.

Terrifyingly extreme pacifist.

mediadave
Sep 8, 2011

Regarde Aduck posted:

So is Corbyn an extreme pacifist or a terrorist?

yes

General China
Aug 19, 2012

by Smythe

Darth Walrus posted:

Consider the timeline. These are people who reached political maturity during the Sixties and (especially) the Seventies, and were old and secure enough that the North Sea oil boom under Thatcher resulted in a major quality-of-life improvement. Now Also remember that the blame for the economic decline of the Seventies was squarely placed on Labour for being too nice to workers, with nary a historical mention of the insane national suicide note that was the Conservatives' 1972 budget.

Their most important political memories are of a time period that the Tories own the national narrative on. That's difficult to overcome.

You forget the OPEC crisis. Inflation was at 10 or 20 percent for a long time in the early 70s.

That is what caused workers unrest and strikes. Pay did not keep up with prices.

namesake
Jun 19, 2006

"When I was a girl, around 12 or 13, I had a fantasy that I'd grow up to marry Captain Scarlet, but he'd be busy fighting the Mysterons so I'd cuckold him with the sexiest people I could think of - Nigel Mansell, Pat Sharp and Mr. Blobby."

General China posted:

You forget the OPEC crisis. Inflation was at 10 or 20 percent for a long time in the early 70s.

That is what caused workers unrest and strikes. Pay did not keep up with prices.

Labour causes every international crisis of capitalism don't you know?

This is the thesis of some Italian socialism whose name I forget, that it is working class organisation and activity which drives the capitalist class to constantly develop the means of production as a reaction to their advances, rather than the other way around. I don't buy it but it's fun to hope for.

qhat
Jul 6, 2015


cheers for the gang tag mods. jammy bastards sign in

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro


https://twitter.com/DavidLammy/status/874692622140440576

Someone make me a Lammy Bastard gangtag please.

qhat
Jul 6, 2015


Jeremy Corbyn, formally known as Unelectable

Xaerael
Aug 25, 2010

Marching Powder is objectively the worst poster known. He also needs to learn how a keyboard works.

Not content with blowing over the Tory lorry in the closing days of the election, Zephyrus is at it again, stealing May's script in Paris.

https://twitter.com/jessicaelgot/status/874690360513056769

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
What's David lammy like because he must be r the safest seat in the country

Kurtofan
Feb 16, 2011

hon hon hon

Darth Walrus posted:

On the other hand, we (deservedly) rag on the Graun a lot, but its readership really came through for us. :unsmith:

speaking of, the graun is turning tabloid because of costs

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2017/jun/13/guardian-and-observer-to-relaunch-in-tabloid-format

Antwan3K
Mar 8, 2013

Lord of the Llamas posted:

Doesn't explain why a (statistically significant) smaller proportion of its readers voted than any other broadsheet. It's down there with the Mirror.


I'd understand if it had a stronger showing for the liberals or whatever. But that FT readers are not more likely to vote than the nation as a whole? Maybe there's a confounding factor they didn't control for like "are you a foreign banker who isn't allowed to vote".

Or some people who don't vote also claim to read the FT to come off as above normal plebs who still believe the lizard voting false flag actually influences anything

Maybe not but I like my hypothesis

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forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro


Jose posted:

What's David lammy like because he must be r the safest seat in the country

7th safest. The 5 safest seats in the country now are all in Merseyside.

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