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Batman should have a love affair with an orphaned Batgirl he takes under his wing and fall in love and be normal and at peace. Then Alfred can point out through her he finally learned to love himself and come to terms with everything. Then Batman can fall to his knees and have a good cry before shunning it all for the life of the Bat.
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Yes, batman should gently caress the orphan he becomes guardian of
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Nov 28, 2016 20:47
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Zzulu posted:Yes, batman should gently caress the orphan he becomes guardian of You gotta love Batman if only for the bizarre roads he leads you down. What's it gonna be today? Stalking and physically assaulting the mentally ill? Buying orphans to groom for sex?
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Nov 28, 2016 20:50
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Zzulu posted:Yes, batman should gently caress the orphan he becomes guardian of Wouldnt be the first time
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Nov 28, 2016 20:53
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They can get around the morality of it by swapping sidekicks. Ollie fucks batgirl and Bruce fucks Artemis. Everything is above board.
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Nov 28, 2016 20:53
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I want an older than Bruce Batwoman to seduce Bruce when he's most vulnerable
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Nov 28, 2016 20:54
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Dude that's his cousin.
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Nov 28, 2016 20:56
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greatn posted:Dude that's his cousin. *nods knowingly*
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Nov 28, 2016 20:59
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Zzulu posted:Yes, batman should gently caress the orphan he becomes guardian of hopefully I shouldn't have to preface she'd be older than 20 and didn't imply guardian so much as pupil but...eh...Batmans a creepy gently caress to begin with I guess
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Nov 28, 2016 21:06
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Timby posted:I think the change really became noticeable when they switched to HD (which is also when that new opening sequence came out). It's actually really odd that HD seemed to mark a 'reduction' in detail rather than an increase. The animations are far less expressive, and the backgrounds seem to carry less little details in them. It's like the need to increase the definition of each frame without having the budget to match seems like trying to put out a feature animated film without the resources to actually do it. I'm sure there are more than a few examples that could really benefit artistically by going back to an older style.
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Nov 28, 2016 21:35
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What's really hosed up is that going digital should have freed them up to do more, not less, but guess where those gains went...
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Nov 28, 2016 21:39
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MacheteZombie posted:*nods knowingly* And she's a lesbian. Unless that was a trait they dropped with the new Detective Comics line.
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Nov 28, 2016 21:53
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:What's really hosed up is that going digital should have freed them up to do more, not less, but guess where those gains went... I was going to say the voice cast, but then I remembered that everyone accepted a pretty significant pay cut a few years ago because Fox was starting to test replacement actors.
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Nov 28, 2016 21:55
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Jimbot posted:And she's a lesbian. Unless that was a trait they dropped with the new Detective Comics line. It's funny that now Batwoman is one of the few comic book characters that has a fixed point in her timeline, like Captain America. All the other superheros stay roughly the same age, their backstories occasionally updated to fit with the times. But Captain America always fought in WW2, and Batwoman will always have been kicked out of the Marines under DADT.
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Nov 28, 2016 22:01
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The principal VO's on The Simpsons are richer than Croesus, true. But I gotta imagine a lot of that is just wooing the celebrity of the moment, too.
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Nov 28, 2016 22:03
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:The principal VO's on The Simpsons are richer than Croesus, true. But I gotta imagine a lot of that is just wooing the celebrity of the moment, too. They actually don't get all that much anymore, relatively speaking. Since 2011, they've been making about $300,000 per episode as a result of that pay cut I mentioned (Fox was threatening to replace them or cancel the show). For comparison, fifteen years ago, John Mahoney and David Hyde Pierce were both making $720,000 an episode on Frasier, while Kelsey Grammer was making $1.6 million.
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Nov 28, 2016 22:07
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Fox should have made good and cancelled the drat show. It's not like it won't go into syndication. Also, holy poo poo.
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Nov 28, 2016 22:08
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:Also, holy poo poo. While Grammer, Mahoney and Pierce were getting those paychecks, Jane Leeves was pulling about $50,000 per episode (until the final two seasons, when she got a bump up to $280k) and Peri Gilpin's pay was in the same terrible neighborhood.
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Nov 28, 2016 22:19
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Sorry toots, you are literally worth 1/32th of a Kelsey Grammar. *chomps cigar*
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Nov 28, 2016 22:29
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Lol, that's some bump. Whoops, we forgot to pay you six and a half times what we were before.
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Nov 28, 2016 22:30
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Jimbot posted:And she's a lesbian. Unless that was a trait they dropped with the new Detective Comics line. They didn't. She's still about the highest profile LGBT hero in DC or Marvel comics that I know of, unless you count Wonder Woman's occasional flirtations with bisexuality that sooner or later get snapped back to nope she's 100% straight.
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Nov 28, 2016 22:45
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:Lol, that's some bump. Whoops, we forgot to pay you six and a half times what we were before. It just goes to show how different casts work differently with one another. On Friends, when it came time to renegotiate contracts, the cast finally decided (I think Jennifer Aniston was the final holdout who finally relented) that they were going to be in it together, and they'd only sign a deal if everyone got the same pay and perks. On Star Trek, Leonard Nimoy offered to take a pay cut if it meant the money would go to the Doohan / Takei / Nichols / Koenig group. On Frasier, conversely, it was everyone on their own -- although Gilpin and Leeves are best friends, the godmothers to each other's children and lived next-door to each other for years.
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Nov 28, 2016 22:59
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Cythereal posted:They didn't. She's still about the highest profile LGBT hero in DC or Marvel comics that I know of, unless you count Wonder Woman's occasional flirtations with bisexuality that sooner or later get snapped back to nope she's 100% straight. What about Renee Montoya aka The Question? And didn't they make Alan Scott aka the first Green Lantern gay? Honestly I stopped reading comics about the time Flashpoint came out because I did not enjoy it as much.
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Nov 28, 2016 23:01
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SolidSnakesBandana posted:What about Renee Montoya aka The Question? And didn't they make Alan Scott aka the first Green Lantern gay? Honestly I stopped reading comics about the time Flashpoint came out because I did not enjoy it as much. The Question is a much less known character than Batwoman. She had a five issue mini-series years ago, Batwoman has a much more popular long running series and a new Batwoman series is about to start And people weren't thrilled about Alan Scott being tured gay because they erased his existing gay son to do it.
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Nov 28, 2016 23:10
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Timby posted:They actually don't get all that much anymore, relatively speaking. Since 2011, they've been making about $300,000 per episode as a result of that pay cut I mentioned (Fox was threatening to replace them or cancel the show). Do they also get residuals, or do they fall into the voice actor phantom zone of contract work? Guy Goodbody posted:And people weren't thrilled about Alan Scott being tured gay because they erased his existing gay son to do it. Why did they need to erase his gay son to make him gay?
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Nov 29, 2016 00:07
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Timby posted:It just goes to show how different casts work differently with one another. On Friends, when it came time to renegotiate contracts, the cast finally decided (I think Jennifer Aniston was the final holdout who finally relented) that they were going to be in it together, and they'd only sign a deal if everyone got the same pay and perks. On Star Trek, Leonard Nimoy offered to take a pay cut if it meant the money would go to the Doohan / Takei / Nichols / Koenig group. On Frasier, conversely, it was everyone on their own -- although Gilpin and Leeves are best friends, the godmothers to each other's children and lived next-door to each other for years. I wonder if this has to do with Grammer's right leaning politics and general douchebaggery at all.
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Nov 29, 2016 00:16
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Gyges posted:Why did they need to erase his gay son to make him gay? It was part of a reboot, so presumably he just never had a son (or a daughter, for that matter) because he was gay.
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Nov 29, 2016 00:18
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Nov 29, 2016 00:56
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Unless that's Barbara I appreciate he's got a heart for Jim. That and all the ladies. He also has Martha Wayne. What's that from?
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Nov 29, 2016 00:59
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Guy Goodbody posted:The Question is a much less known character than Batwoman. She had a five issue mini-series years ago, Batwoman has a much more popular long running series and a new Batwoman series is about to start And the less said about the Harley/Poison Ivy tee hee lesbians moments, the better.
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Nov 29, 2016 01:04
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Gatts posted:Unless that's Barbara I appreciate he's got a heart for Jim. That and all the ladies. He also has Martha Wayne. What's that from? The latest Teen Titans Go episode. And yes, that's for Jim Gordon. They hang out together a lot on the show.
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Nov 29, 2016 01:11
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SolidSnakesBandana posted:It was part of a reboot, so presumably he just never had a son (or a daughter, for that matter) because he was gay. that's loving stupid my mother's gay that doesn't suddenly make me or my sister not exist
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Nov 29, 2016 02:16
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Gay people can have kids. Biological kids even. Just because you're gay does not mean you are incapable of loving some one of the opposite gender. I think a lot of people tend to forget that when they write characters. ESPECIALLY if Alan Scott is still from the past like he has been forever- gay people would get into loveless marriages all the time back when being gay was a hazardous thing, which it very well was in the 30s. Those marriages tended to result in at least A Kid even if no one involved enjoyed the process.
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Nov 29, 2016 02:50
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Zzulu posted:Yes, batman should gently caress the orphan he becomes guardian of Worked for Grover Cleveland.
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Nov 29, 2016 02:51
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Burkion posted:Gay people can have kids. Biological kids even. He's from an alternate dimension now and he's not old anymore either
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Nov 29, 2016 02:53
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Zzulu posted:Yes, batman should gently caress the orphan he becomes guardian of "All alone. Dick Grayson. Age 11."
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Nov 29, 2016 03:29
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Gyges posted:Do they also get residuals, or do they fall into the voice actor phantom zone of contract work? Can't have too many gays. One gay is plenty, don't you know that?!?!
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Nov 29, 2016 15:39
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ungulateman posted:that's loving stupid It would if you Back to the Futured your way out of existence by fundamentally changing the past, like Flashpoint. Hell, now the DC Universe has to listen to Calvin Klein's "Johnny Be Good".
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Nov 29, 2016 16:42
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The old JSA is coming back soon anyway, so presumably, Alan Scott's son, Obsidian will return.
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Nov 29, 2016 17:16
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Zzulu posted:Yes, batman should gently caress the orphan he becomes guardian of
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