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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:Sorry if I'm coming off as rude, but the problem here is that the hole has become self-digging, so "just stopping" isn't going to cut it and isn't anything to be happy about. I agree that even if we get an unapologetically socialist Sanders presidency, it’s likely nowhere near enough unless we also overwhelmingly win in the both the Senate and the House with large enough margins where centrist Democrats can’t successfully collaborate with Republicans to kill any sufficiently ambitious agenda. There is obviously no automatic installment of a wealth tax, implementation of Medicare-for-all, or passage of the Green New Deal just because we get a progressive president. However, I think that it is important that we celebrate any small victories that we can get in these dark times. And furthermore, if the Democratic nomination came down to Warren and Sanders, two Democrats that are openly antagonizing the wealthy and demanding systemic change, it’s not a small victory. quote:Biden literally has brain problems, that's not a joke, he's not going to make it to the primaries. The glow of Obama is not going to be bright enough to mask his clear cognitive defects, his horrific legacy on pretty much anything, and his general lack of substance. Dude, I’m surprised that you simultaneously recognize how lovely things are while also maintaining such strong confidence that this country will definitely reject clearly flawed candidates. I have no faith in Democratic primary voters.
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Aug 30, 2019 02:46
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At least having two septuagenarians suffering from dementia battling for the most powerful office on the planet may finally make a dent in the idea of American exceptionalism (lol it won't)
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Kinda feels like people are dangerously toeing the  line here. The planet is not absolutely hosed beyond all hope just yet. Will it take a herculean effort to pull back from the brink and avert catastrophe? Absolutely, which is why instead of complaining on a dead comedy forum about how we're all doomed, you should go out and preach for the candidate you think will best help us avert disaster. I've been canvasing for Sanders in my spare time even though it's legitimately strained relations with my mom (she was 100% in on Hillary and never got over how dirty the 2016 Dem primary got at times) because as I see it he's the only candidate in the field right now who isn't a lock to immediately cave to corporate and billionaire interests the second they're sworn in.
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Sydin posted:Kinda feels like people are dangerously toeing the I'm torn on whether to buy artic gear or driving gear. Im kinda shocked that my house is going to be destroyed again in less than 30 years.
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Why is everyone yelling about vaccines what's the big deal with sb276
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slicing up eyeballs posted:Why is everyone yelling about vaccines what's the big deal with sb276 SB276 lets the state do oversight on medical exemptions for vaccines including imposing penalties because there's a fuckton of fraud going on with those. Obviously antivaxxers don't want that changing because what they have is very convenient.
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So there are a bunch of kids being separated from their families and kept in cages because humans are garbage. Are there any organizations I can donate to that specifically fight this kind of fight?
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This is starting as a general, “let’s figure out who and what we can donate/do” thread, though at the moment it’s more focused on candidates than specific organizations: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3896206 RAICES and ASAP are otherwise good places to donate specifically for immigration things, and there are other orgs listed in this thread: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3860635
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hey thread, remember that fire in eagle rock a week ago https://twitter.com/topomodesto/status/1169095046508888064 i'm sure this thread will have a healthy diversity of opinion about this incident
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Chambers of Commerce are essentially College Republicans all grown up send post
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unbutthurtable posted:hey thread, remember that fire in eagle rock a week ago Rich people start a fire to try and drive the homeless away, accidentally cause a massive wild fire instead is pretty peak California imo.
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acksplode posted:Fantastically dumb post. Trump lost the vote by almost 3 million, and the votes he won weren't because he was the oldest and stupidest candidate. Those were weaknesses that he won in spite of, so maybe Dems should consider nominating someone who doesn't share them. It's great that California gave Hillary all that popular margin. But it's absolutely irrelevant to the presidential election outcome.
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acksplode posted:Fantastically dumb post. Trump lost the vote by almost 3 million, and the votes he won weren't because he was the oldest and stupidest candidate. Those were weaknesses that he won in spite of, so maybe Dems should consider nominating someone who doesn't share them. The thing I think about a lot is that if you take Gary Johnson + Trump they beat Hillary + Jill Stein in the popular vote. The right had better turnout as a whole. Doesn't change how utterly stupid and hosed our electoral system is or challenge your point, I just think about it.
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drat near 100% of jill stein voters are lefties, but not 100% of gary johnson voters are righties. He also attracts a certain amount of pro-pot anti-prohibition people. Libertarians are weird. The classic "gently caress you got mine" anti-government libertarian is definitely the majority of them? But there's also a kooky kind of confused subset who are just convinced that the party that's gonna make all drugs free and legal is the Libertarian party and so vote for them, man, and not even think about the likely consequences of full privatization anti-safety net policy for the average pothead. Here's a pre-election article that delves into it a bit: https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/election-update-is-gary-johnson-taking-more-support-from-clinton-or-trump/
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slicing up eyeballs posted:Why is everyone yelling about vaccines what's the big deal with sb276 My rep (Choi) voted no on SB 276 and I've been arguing with Scientist Moms all day.
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VideoGameVet posted:It's great that California gave Hillary all that popular margin. Might want to read the post I was responding to, because in that context this post reads like you're suggesting that dementia is a good electoral college strategy.
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acksplode posted:Might want to read the post I was responding to, because in that context this post reads like you're suggesting that dementia is a good electoral college strategy. No, but SHOWING UP is half the job.
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In a shocking development, Google and other tech firm lobbyists are trying to gut California's proposed online privacy law by asking lawmakers to sponsor last minute amendments that let them do... well exactly what they're doing now, which is collect and profit off your data without your consent, or even if you opt-out of it. They haven't found any lawmakers willing to sponsor the amendments yet, but they have until September 10th to
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Can we move to something pressing, like what in the gently caress is this puppet https://twitter.com/dillonliam/status/1169363722755657729?s=19
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slicing up eyeballs posted:Can we move to something pressing, like what in the gently caress is this puppet I really love the fact that gavin newsom is a loving godfather figure that is just hiding in a pantless filled room somewhere while a puppet announces government policy.
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California On Pace To Permit Under 100K Homes This Year; Worst Since Recessionquote:SACRAMENTO (CBS SF) – Despite strong demand for homes amid the state’s housing crisis, new figures show the number of residential building permits issued this year is on pace to be the lowest since the Great Recession.
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I mean, it's publicly funded housing or bust at this point, right? Pretty clear ~the market~ isn't interested in filling demand.
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Sep 5, 2019 20:57
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California city plan checks are dicks . Hate em
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Sydin posted:I mean, it's publicly funded housing or bust at this point, right? Pretty clear ~the market~ isn't interested in filling demand. Public housing would be great too. But to get much of that you'd probably need zoning changes anyway.
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I just wonder how this slow pace interacts with the growth ponzi scheme (https://www.strongtowns.org/the-growth-ponzi-scheme) that most cities are in.
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I mean, is the issue that a lot of companies are applying for permits but not getting them? Or that applications are down in general? Both? There was a story a while back about how few construction companies are willing to invest even in luxury housing in San Jose because construction costs have become so exorbitant that the RoI is seen as not worth it so I know it's not entirely NIMBY-ism.
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On this exact topic: https://twitter.com/mlevinreports/status/1169646465259429889 https://twitter.com/mlevinreports/status/1169648345792446465 https://twitter.com/mlevinreports/status/1169703658113552384
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Sydin posted:I mean, is the issue that a lot of companies are applying for permits but not getting them? Or that applications are down in general? Both? There was a story a while back about how few construction companies are willing to invest even in luxury housing in San Jose because construction costs have become so exorbitant that the RoI is seen as not worth it so I know it's not entirely NIMBY-ism. Probably both. I had to go through pcheck 3 times to get my permit to build and permit to reside etc theres a huge lacj of plan checkers all over and the ones they do get are sometimes dicks. Not all pchecks are dicks but many thrust tbeir own opinion into the job. WAR CRIME GIGOLO fucked around with this message at 21:45 on Sep 5, 2019 |
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Cicero posted:Is this a joke post? Where there's the most demand, local regulations generally ban or impede new housing. Most land in most cities is still SFH-only, apartments are illegal. Even where technically allowed, NIMBY's will often fight new housing to the death. Allow people to sublet rooms in their rental homes.
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https://twitter.com/fightforprop13/status/1169701736799494146?s=21 Ah good stuff
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WAR CRIME GIGOLO posted:Probably both. I had to go through pcheck 3 times to get my permit to build and permit to reside etc theres a huge lacj of plan checkers all over and the ones they do get are sometimes dicks. Not all pchecks are dicks but many thrust tbeir own opinion into the job. I’m on the design side of the construction industry and many cities also use plan check as a means to extract additional revenue. City plan reviewers are also not incentivized to work more than 40 (despite the above issue) and in fact often moonlight for other municipalities in their spare time. Also gently caress San Diego’s Development Services Department.
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Anza Borrego posted:I’m on the design side of the construction industry and many cities also use plan check as a means to extract additional revenue. City plan reviewers are also not incentivized to work more than 40 (despite the above issue) and in fact often moonlight for other municipalities in their spare time. San Diego plan check is loving insane, it's not representative of the rest of the state at all
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Badger of Basra posted:https://twitter.com/fightforprop13/status/1169701736799494146?s=21 Things have never been worse. Let's fight any attempt to make it better
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Wealth building through house ownership is the best scam the lending industry ever pulled. Yeah, no worries, prices will go up forever. There'll always be buyers at ever higher prices. It's a house for a young family now, but come the day young families will pay several times what you did so no worries in 30 years when you're looking to retire you'll get enough for another house and more besides. And people just believed that poo poo. 
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Sydin posted:I mean, it's publicly funded housing or bust at this point, right? Pretty clear ~the market~ isn't interested in filling demand. Affordable housing developers building on free land can't get costs below like 500-600k per unit in the Bay Area - and I'm pretty sure that number is a couple years old at this point - which is already well beyond what area median income can afford. Labor is expensive, materials are expensive, compliance is expensive - any type of construction is going to face the same constraints, and you don't want to skimp on any of those. There's no serious way to look at the issue without examining how housing costs so much now, but I don't really see anyone outside of the YIMBYs doing it.
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gonger posted:Affordable housing developers building on free land can't get costs below like 500-600k per unit in the Bay Area - and I'm pretty sure that number is a couple years old at this point - which is already well beyond what area median income can afford. Cool, so we remove the profit motive and just build it for free with taxes.
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Cup Runneth Over posted:Cool, so we remove the profit motive and just build it for free with taxes. I'm totally on board with this provided you can find the money for it, but right now for-profit development is currently a major source of subsidy for existing programs. Barring an unlikely political sea change, it's going to stay that way. With current costs, $2B will get you around 4000 units - enough to make up for a year's worth of housing production deficit in a single major city.
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Cup Runneth Over posted:Cool, so we remove the profit motive and just build it for free with taxes. if you fixed some of the idiosyncratic problems that increase development costs you could still remove the profit motive and pay for new housing with taxes but then build more for less money
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gonger posted:I'm totally on board with this provided you can find the money for it Cool, so we repeal Prop 13
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