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Ka0
Sep 16, 2002

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AS A PROUD GAMERGATER THE ONLY THING I HATE MORE THAN WOMEN ARE GAYS AND TRANS PEOPLE
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Weird as it sounds I think Stardust Memory would fit a feature film better.

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HitTheTargets
Mar 3, 2006

I came here to laugh at you.

Shinjobi posted:

Dwayne Johnson as Char Aznable


Zac Effron as Amuro


The audience as the victims

Dwayne would be a heckuva Dozle.

Astoundingly Ugly Baby
Mar 22, 2006

"...crying bitch cave bitch boy."
- Anonymous Facebook user

Shinjobi posted:

Dwayne Johnson as Char Aznable


Zac Effron as Amuro


The audience as the victims

Dwayne Johnson as Garma. Just put a purple wig on him and don’t change anything else.

chiasaur11
Oct 22, 2012



Astoundingly Ugly Baby posted:

Dwayne Johnson as Garma. Just put a purple wig on him and don’t change anything else.

Dwayne Johnson as all of the Zabis.

Gripweed
Nov 8, 2018

Dwayne Johnson can not play a villain. Haven't you people seen Doom?

Spelling Mitsake
Oct 4, 2007

Clutch Cargo wishes they had Tractor.
Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson as Acguy.

Midjack
Dec 24, 2007



The Rock as Hayato.

HitTheTargets
Mar 3, 2006

I came here to laugh at you.

Gripweed posted:

Dwayne Johnson can not play a villain. Haven't you people seen Doom?

Did anybody?

Astoundingly Ugly Baby
Mar 22, 2006

"...crying bitch cave bitch boy."
- Anonymous Facebook user

HitTheTargets posted:

Did anybody?

I did

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?
I've thought for a while about how you could go adapting 0079 and I certainly think it's possible provided you dropped a ton of stuff and rearranged events. The biggest thing is to avoid the urge to make the film the story of the One Year War and instead focus on telling Amuro's story during the war.

Have a set goal in mind: Get the Gundam to Jaburo like you're delivering R2-D2 to the Rebel Base.

-Introduce Lalah early by having her travel with Char's detachment. If you're going to do the Newtype stuff in one film, maybe start her off by accidentally contacting Amuro psychically just before the attack on Side 7.

-Redo Char's introduction so that the first time we see him is during his first attack on Amuro the moment they escape Side 7, rather than the whole "fly around taking pictures and maybe see Sayla."

-Move his encounter with Sayla to a boarding action where the Zekes manage to get on White Base, and get rid of the detour to Luna II. Have the zeon attack driven off by a Salamis or a Magellan cruiser that has Matilda as an XO or something, which then acts as an escort for White Base as they make it to earth. Then she can die covering them as they make reentry.

-Garma and Ral can already be working together rather than Ral being the retribution action against White Base. Dozle likes Ral, so he assigns Ral as Garma's bodyguard even though Garma's land forces and Dozle's fleet don't always get along. This rivalry could also explain why Char can get away with wearing sunglasses in space. The navy boys don't care and the army grunts can't do poo poo about it.

-Lalah becomes aware of the psyhic link between her and Amuro and they reconcile through trippy 80s anime space magic as the film goes on. Something kind of like the bond between Rey and Ben in The Last Jedi, ish.

-White Base makes it through to Jaburo where the combat data is logged into the GM forces stationed at the base, but by making a beeline to Jaburo instead of going the long way around, the Zeon forces mass for a major attack on the base which would act as the finale of the film. Char intentionally sends Garma into a trap fighting the heaviest federation forces so he can get his shot at the gundam (and kill a goddamn Zabi), but Lalah intervenes and is killed in the crossfire. Garma goes down in flames and Ral can go out fighting against Sayla in a GM Custom or something, realizing too late that he's fighting his former ward.

-Federation scores a major victory at Jaburo, Amuro is shattered by Lalah's death, Char escapes like Darth Vader zipping away after the Death Star blows up, and the film comes to a logical conclusion with the Federation gearing up for a major counteroffensive to take back the Earth. Amuro has become a man, but only at the cost of his childhood innocence.

And then end the movie Starship Troopers style with Gihren's speech.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cACQ2548i0o

Between all of that, I think it would also make sense to show the Zeon forces having more than just Zaku IIs rather than the Gouf and Doms and all that being built as a response to the Gundam. Some character names would also change, like I'm sure that Fraw Bow would be changed to something like Fran Bowman. With so many characters, you would need to cut down a lot on people like Hayato, Ryu and Kai and put the focus squarely on Amuro, Char, Sayla and Lalah.

It doesn't cover the whole war but the original Star Wars doesn't end with total victory over the Empire either and it still works as a standalone film. RoboCop ends with OCP winning and going ahead with their plan to demolish Detroit but we can still cheer on Murphy regaining his agency and holding onto his humanity after everything has been stripped from him.

An open ended movie doesn't have to bait you for a sequel.

Arc Hammer fucked around with this message at 05:42 on Mar 10, 2019

Astoundingly Ugly Baby
Mar 22, 2006

"...crying bitch cave bitch boy."
- Anonymous Facebook user
Actually it's gonna be some weird bad poo poo and the mobile suits will be covered in greebles and look like walking scrap metal like the Transformers. Everybody will hate it except for a microscopic nerd minority and it will kill Gundam in America for another 20 years.

Improbable Lobster
Jan 6, 2012

"From each according to his ability" said Ares. It sounded like a quotation.
Buglord
If the new Godzilla is good then live action gundam might be able to be good









I really don't think it would be though

Midjack
Dec 24, 2007



Astoundingly Ugly Baby posted:

Actually it's gonna be some weird bad poo poo and the mobile suits will be covered in greebles and look like walking scrap metal like the Transformers. Everybody will hate it except for a microscopic nerd minority and it will kill Gundam in America for another 20 years.

This is the most likely outcome.

Neddy Seagoon
Oct 12, 2012

"Hi Everybody!"

Astoundingly Ugly Baby posted:

Actually it's gonna be some weird bad poo poo and the mobile suits will be covered in greebles and look like walking scrap metal like the Transformers. Everybody will hate it except for a microscopic nerd minority and it will kill Gundam in America for another 20 years.

Nah, Pacific Rim's big enough, nevermind being an excellent Giant Robot film in its own righht, that they can get away with a "proper" Gundam design.

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?
Plus the Gundam had its extended cameo in Ready Player One. The movie might have been a waste of time but the RX-78 was on point.

Caros
May 14, 2008

Arcsquad12 posted:

Plus the Gundam had its extended cameo in Ready Player One. The movie might have been a waste of time but the RX-78 was on point.

They had the wrong sound effects. :smith:

Ka0
Sep 16, 2002

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AS A PROUD GAMERGATER THE ONLY THING I HATE MORE THAN WOMEN ARE GAYS AND TRANS PEOPLE
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The plot will be Victory gundam. It'll be nominated for a palm d'or and even win an academy award for sound design.

Caros posted:

They had the wrong sound effects. :smith:

I turned off the movie when that happened lol

jackhunter64
Aug 28, 2008

Keep it up son, take a look at what you could have won


Caros posted:

They had the wrong sound effects. :smith:

This is unironically the worst part of the Zeta dub.

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?
It's not the Gundam if there aren't super crisp ratchet sound effects alongside muffled beeps and garbles.

Ka0
Sep 16, 2002

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AS A PROUD GAMERGATER THE ONLY THING I HATE MORE THAN WOMEN ARE GAYS AND TRANS PEOPLE
:siren: :siren: :siren:
Got my cast all confirmed, shooting begins in a beautiful giant green screen somewhere in Australia.








StrixNebulosa
Feb 14, 2012

You cheated not only the game, but yourself.
But most of all, you cheated BABA

Ugh. I had a dream that led me to wanting to watch Gundam Wing and here I am, watching Heero promise Relena he'll kill her. Again.

"he's the perfect soldier" No he couldn't even get his gundam down to earth intact, jeez.

Neddy Seagoon
Oct 12, 2012

"Hi Everybody!"
Regarding live-action adaptations, 0079's really the only one that'd actually be viable aside from maybe SeeD (which is pretty much the same story anyway). Wing and 00 are out, because the protagonists are basically terrorists on a global stage, AGE is AGE G Gundam exists as Robot Jox, Turn A Gundam I haven't seen so I can't comment on, Build Fighters just doesn't really translate outside of its intended format because of the in-jokes, and IBO would just be a major :can: for a bunch of reasons.

Vord
Oct 27, 2007

Neddy Seagoon posted:

Turn A Gundam I haven't seen

You should really change that.

Neddy Seagoon
Oct 12, 2012

"Hi Everybody!"

Vord posted:

You should really change that.

I know :negative:.

I keep hoping it'll turn up on AnimeLab, or get a DVD set out here in Australia or something.

ManSedan
May 7, 2006
Seats 4

Ka0 posted:

Got my cast all confirmed, shooting begins in a beautiful giant green screen somewhere in Australia.










Shockingly on point.

Also is there anywhere to watch Victory? Someone had it on YouTube a while ago but I only got through the first fifteen episodes or so before it got taken down.

MonsieurChoc
Oct 12, 2013

Every species can smell its own extinction.
Thinking about it Wing is rather on point today, with the advent of drone warfare.

RillAkBea
Oct 11, 2008

Neddy Seagoon posted:

Regarding live-action adaptations, 0079's really the only one that'd actually be viable aside from maybe SeeD (which is pretty much the same story anyway). Wing and 00 are out, because the protagonists are basically terrorists on a global stage, AGE is AGE G Gundam exists as Robot Jox, Turn A Gundam I haven't seen so I can't comment on, Build Fighters just doesn't really translate outside of its intended format because of the in-jokes, and IBO would just be a major :can: for a bunch of reasons.

The problem with Turn A is once you shave it down to a movie treatment, you're pretty much left with the plot of Dances with Wolves. Also the entire novelty of the Turn A universe is that it's every Gundam universe so that pretty much crushes it's stand alone status.

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?
Isn't the conceit of G-Reco that it is actually the UC thousands of years after the end of the UC timeline with the earth having miraculously not been wiped clean of all human life?

Azubah
Jun 5, 2007

Arcsquad12 posted:

Isn't the conceit of G-Reco that it is actually the UC thousands of years after the end of the UC timeline with the earth having miraculously not been wiped clean of all human life?

I wouldn't say wiped clean, there was a healthy dose of cannibalism in there for good measure.

Omnicrom
Aug 3, 2007
Snorlax Afficionado


Arcsquad12 posted:

Isn't the conceit of G-Reco that it is actually the UC thousands of years after the end of the UC timeline with the earth having miraculously not been wiped clean of all human life?

G-Reco is 500 years after Turn A, so basically. I always took G-Reco as a portrait of post-war UC humanity, after X000 years humanity finally stopped bursting into war at the slightest provocation every generation and this is the weird and wacky world is what it looks like after that happened. The world still has problems and conflict still occurs, even descending into war, but the war was a lot smaller in G-Reco and the series ends with the cast concluding that the entire conflict was a huge goddamn mistake and sort of implying it would be a couple hundred more years before someone would come along who would be fool enough to start another and that even if they did it would probably end in roughly the same way. I took the overflowing verdure of the setting as a kind of metaphor for the state of the world, after completely loving up the planet in UC it recovered and got better for it and so did the people.

It's a wonky series but I still dig it.

Ka0
Sep 16, 2002

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Omnicrom posted:

G-Reco is 500 years after Turn A

Wait what

How does this work. Turn A is the end of all series.

Omnicrom
Aug 3, 2007
Snorlax Afficionado


Ka0 posted:

Wait what

How does this work. Turn A is the end of all series.

Not anymore! G-Reco is now the final terminal point of Gundam until they come out with a sequel to it.

Also G-Reco is actually apparently over a thousand years after Turn A, so my mistake.

Ka0
Sep 16, 2002

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I'm so confused. I thought Turn A took place nearly 10 thousand years after the end of the UC.

ImpAtom
May 24, 2007

Ka0 posted:

I'm so confused. I thought Turn A took place nearly 10 thousand years after the end of the UC.

Turn-A never really gave a timeframe for it, just "A very long time."

ninjewtsu
Oct 9, 2012

Weren't sunrise employees confused too when tomino said that greco is after turn a

ImpAtom
May 24, 2007

ninjewtsu posted:

Weren't sunrise employees confused too when tomino said that greco is after turn a

Yeah, I think Tomino even changed his mind on when it was.

chiasaur11
Oct 22, 2012



ninjewtsu posted:

Weren't sunrise employees confused too when tomino said that greco is after turn a

Yeah, because it doesn't make a lick of sense.

Venus colonies and finding the ruins of Jaburo makes much more sense before the Solar System was wiped clean than after.

1st Stage Midboss
Oct 29, 2011

Within the show, G-Reco is quite specifically post-UC, as late as episode 24.


Presumably Tomino later decided he'd prefer his most current work to be final and definitive in-universe, and just declared it so without regard to the content and context. I haven't watched Turn A - even though it's been over 3 years since it was announced for a UK release and then delayed, I want to support Gundam coming out here and can't justify buying it twice - but I can't see that continuity shuffle adding anything worth discarding what's presented in the show.

Midjack
Dec 24, 2007



It doesn’t matter if Turn A or G-Reco is the farthest future of the UC or AUs. They’re both so disconnected from all the other series that it’s enough to have the UC in the distant past of both of them and neither Turn A nor G-Reco appears in the other show.

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Gripweed
Nov 8, 2018

The G-Lucifer can do the Moonlight Butterfly, so that would put G-Reco after Turn A.

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