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loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

quote:

I'm straight but I keep getting drunk at parties and loving men. I want to get with women but they're not interested. Also, thinking about it, I hardly meet any women around now and I'm wondering where the heck are they? Anyway... at these parties where women aren't interested: before you know it some gay man at the party is chatting with me and we're getting flirtatious. Now if someone's flirting with me and I'm a little tipsy I'm going to take the compliment. I'm maybe even going to pay it back. Also when it comes to these guys I'm not gay but sometimes I can appreciate on an academic level that maybe there's some attractiveness to this person. it's like if I were gay I could have done much worse.

Anyway I figure I have no issues with this, it's 2018 I could be gay and that wouldn't be an issue. Why not go to bed? In fact I want it to work. I'd love if I were a raging homo and if I were into this. I'd love to please men and start a gay relationship. The thing is, when it comes to showtime, I have no boner for the man and I have to get it up out of pure rubbing. It doesn't last. I feel wrong with the men. They almost always are into me and it definitely works for them but I'm just like "nope sorry, the boner died again".

I've never even seen a vagina and I want to so bad but the only interest I get is from dudes. Oh, but now I'm that guy who goes around having sex with men, so women probably think I'm gay. Goddamn it.

Lotta layers to this one

At first I was like "I don't think you're actually straight" but then I got to the part where you actually can't perform with dudes because you have no interest in them

so then I'm like "ok what would I tell a guy who only gets interest from women he has no interest in" and the answer is "you should take better care of yourself and girls who do likewise will start actually responding to you" but that doesn't really apply here because by all accounts gay dudes tend to have higher standards for attractiveness than straight women (offset by lower inhibitions w/r/t loving strangers of course)

so basically what I think the problem is is that you're too easily discouraged by women not immediately being way into you the way a dude who wants to bone you would be. Culturally you're supposed to take more initiative with them and this is what they're used to, so give that a shot. Alternately, try methods of meeting them that don't involve parties (online dating maybe).

also I guess you set off a lot of gaydar??? Try butching up a little bit??? I dunno man

quote:

My dad was always abusive growing up. He never really crossed the line into anything major, though once he left a big welt on my face and I called the cops. But mostly he'd stand in the doorway and scream at me, shoving me if I tried to leave, and threaten to call the cops and have me sent to the local juvie (famous for kids getting raped) if I "assaulted" him by pushing past.

He'd explicitly tell me n-words would rape me and then insinuate maybe I'd like that and maybe I act up because I secretly want that, and then go back to more swearing etc.He calmed down around the time I got big enough to potentially kick his rear end, but has been low key lovely since.Anyways, I got laid off from my job. He'd finally simmered down a lot because I'd gone and gotten a college degree, then a master's, and then a sweeeeet computer touching gig at a company even olds like him have heard of.Anyways, long story short I got laid off and had some issues finding more work and moved in for a bit.When I was young he'd start working himself into a frenzy and insinuating he might lose his temper and basically force me to de-escalate him. He'd make a big show of making me beg him to calm down and usually it ended with him starting to hit me as the police arrived (my mom would call).

The cops would do jack poo poo, since in our province corporal punishment against under 18s is legal and they seemed to think it's totally cool and good to hit a kid who "gives you lip". Anyways he pulled the same poo poo again but I was just like "shut the gently caress up and get the gently caress away from me" and he lost his poo poo and starts screaming, really losing his mind, says that me saying "shut the gently caress up" makes him feel threatened and I need to leave, and *waves a gun around*

So I called the cops, who were like LOL yeah you can't beat your large adult son, and you can't chase him out of the house at gunpoint either. You can give him 30 day notice to leave if you want but we'll arrest you if you threaten him again.

Anyways, shortly after this he had a stroke while we were home home alone. He got angry I didn't want to eat the last of some ham that had spoiled IMHO. (3 days past sell by).I politely was like yeah it smells weird I think I'm going to to just go out for dinner, want me to buy more with my money? But he just kept insisting I eat it and getting more and more angry and I told him to shove it up his rear end. He fell down on the couch as I was leaving and panicked it was a stroke.He's obsessed with the law being a retired union rep he thinks he's fuckin Dago Johnnie Cochran and so I was like well I don't have an obligation to render aid, walk your rear end into your room and call 911 yourself I'm hungry. I went out, ate some Jimmy Johns, and came home - he was still on the couch, flopping around like a fish now.I called 911.

He survived but he's all hosed up like that guy from breaking bad. His memory is all hosed so he doesn't remember me seeing it start and leaving, he thinks I came home and called 911 like a good boy. He thinks god sent this to punish him for being a bad person and is all Jesus-y now.(He can't talk much but they set him up with a computer like autistics use to communicate which he promptly used to go to confession because he's scared he'll go to hell)

Anyways, it's likely he'll die soon, the stress of the home is dragging him down. When he does I'll get a nice house + decent inheritance. Not huge but enough to retire.I ran the situation past a buddy who's a lawyer, in the hypothetical. I'm not his caretaker - he had a DL + went running every day so legally I wasn't obligated to help him. He said if anyone ever figures out and gives me poo poo, I also have the right to use the fact he's waved guns round to say I was retreating. Since he had the stroke in the middle of a meltdown even if you convoluted some sort of duty of care, I'm not obligated to risk death etc etcSo TL;DR I went and ate a Jimmy John's sandwich while my dad had a stroke and now he's basically hector from Better Call Saul. He can't remember and thinks I saved his life, so he edited his will so I get all his stuff. He has decent insurance + has had a second stroke + cancer diag since then so I suspect he'll die w/o running up a huge bill and I'll be able to retire early. Probably will need to move to Thailand or something for a decade or so while while I let the nest egg grow but hey YOLO

Man, it's kind of hosed-up that apparently in whatever part of Canada this is you can beat your kids until they are adults who not only are a physical match for you but are not dependent on you for survival, in which case it is illegal

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Azza Bamboo
Apr 7, 2018


THUNDERDOME LOSER 2021
At what point do you go into the bedroom with someone you have no interest in?

I feel like Loquacious has hit it on the head with this guy having a lack of initiative, and I want to take that further: it's not just a lack of initiative toward women, it's a lack of initiative all around. This guy won't even say "nah dude I'm not gay let's not have sex."

I know masculinity is seen as toxic these days and so on, but I feel like the correct response here is "grow a pair".

Or alternatively get yourself on fetlife and seek out dominant women.

Azza Bamboo fucked around with this message at 16:30 on Aug 24, 2018

Blaze Dragon
Aug 28, 2013
LOWTAX'S SPINE FUND

I feel this is the kind of situation where the thread title applies. You won't have to think about either flavour of sex anymore, win-win!

But seriously, I agree with loq that you should try something other than parties, god knows I tried that and it did not work for me (I didn't get to attract any men though, so I can say I accomplished even less!...I think?), but I managed to enter a relationship with a woman I love thanks to the internet. Plus, whatever is attracting gay dudes to you may not appear through chat, so that could help both give you confidence with women and avoid men.

Applesnots
Oct 22, 2010

MERRY YOBMAS

HugeGrossBurrito posted:

I've been thinking about doing a big horror movie post, wife and I have been watching so many recently there are a surprising number of good ones between Netflix and Amazon Prime.

I would dig this, it is hard to sift through the garbage.

HugeGrossBurrito
Mar 20, 2018

Applesnots posted:

I would dig this, it is hard to sift through the garbage.

Some of them are very entertaining garbage. I just watched a Dolph Lundgren horror movie called Dont Kill It, it was terrible but super fun. If you kill the monster you become the monster.

Applesnots
Oct 22, 2010

MERRY YOBMAS

HugeGrossBurrito posted:

Some of them are very entertaining garbage. I just watched a Dolph Lundgren horror movie called Dont Kill It, it was terrible but super fun. If you kill the monster you become the monster.

That sounds awesome! I am a fan of fun low budget films, recently there seems to be so many flooding the genre due to cheap cameras and they all take themselves too seriously. There is a TON of good Troma movies on Amazon prime.

Nissin Cup Nudist
Sep 3, 2011

Sleep with one eye open

We're off to Gritty Gritty land




I hate horror movies

I also scare easily and jump through the roof

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

HugeGrossBurrito posted:

Some of them are very entertaining garbage. I just watched a Dolph Lundgren horror movie called Dont Kill It, it was terrible but super fun. If you kill the monster you become the monster.

Dolph Lundgren, in: FINAL FANTASY X

Fintilgin
Sep 29, 2004

Fintilgin sweeps!

Nissin Cup Nudist posted:

I hate horror movies

I also scare easily and jump through the roof

My understanding is that there is more to the genre than torture porn(?) but the various horror movie trailers I've seen over my life of terrified women being hurt and killed upset me so much that I've literally never watched a horror or slasher movie.

HugeGrossBurrito
Mar 20, 2018
I hate all the torture stuff its not fun to watch imo.

PetraCore
Jul 20, 2017

👁️🔥👁️👁️👁️BE NOT👄AFRAID👁️👁️👁️🔥👁️

The Goosebumps book I can never forget was the one where the school photographer trapped everyone in the photo in a monochrome hellscape when he took the photo and it was very surreal and upsetting and there was a class who had been in there for like... decades because it'd happened once before. And one of the kids in the current class had actually been from that class but escaped and used makeup to hide that she had no color at all. The people who'd been in there a long time had lost a lot of their humanity and snapped under the horror and you had to use color to escape but as soon as you were in it'd start to drain from you... they escaped using the lipstick tube the escaped girl had on her to cut a hole in the world, or something?

Applesnots
Oct 22, 2010

MERRY YOBMAS

Torture porn is bad, Troma is...well it is just stupid. But fun. Like the toxic avenger. Or Class of Nukem High.

wesleywillis
Dec 30, 2016

SUCK A MALE CAMEL'S DICK WITH MIRACLE WHIP!!
Secretly not-gay-virginwithgirls-butnotguys goon:

I hear ya pal. I have sex with men too, every day, all day, but I'm not actually gay either. I don't even have to say "no homo" as a dick gets shoved inside me to prove that I'm not, I just know that I'm straight as gently caress yo!

You should try some viagra or something so you can get a boner and please the dudes you selfish prick.

sugar free jazz
Mar 5, 2008

having sex with guys but not gay goon: try cutting off your dick. If you don't have a dick, most gay men (i've been told?) are generally not that interested as they're into those. This will solve that problem right away. Now the women you can just perform oral sex on and say you're just into getting them off, ezpz my dude good luck!

Danaru
Jun 5, 2012

何 ??
The best horror movies are campy horror movies. Putting Jason Voorhees on a space ship was a brilliant move and everyone who hated it are philistines. This is not an ironic post.

HugeGrossBurrito
Mar 20, 2018

Danaru posted:

The best horror movies are campy horror movies. Putting Jason Voorhees on a space ship was a brilliant move and everyone who hated it are philistines. This is not an ironic post.

It was a great end to the series. Much better than 8 and 9.

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

sugar free jazz posted:

having sex with guys but not gay goon: try cutting off your dick. If you don't have a dick, most gay men (i've been told?) are generally not that interested as they're into those. This will solve that problem right away. Now the women you can just perform oral sex on and say you're just into getting them off, ezpz my dude good luck!

To be really sure he'd have to cut off his butt too

kalel
Jun 19, 2012

Danaru posted:

The best horror movies are campy horror movies. Putting Jason Voorhees on a space ship was a brilliant move and everyone who hated it are philistines. This is not an ironic post.

This but unironically

Solice Kirsk
Jun 1, 2004

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Freddy vs Jason is one of the best slasher movies of all time. And it's shot way more beautifully than it had any right to be. It's basically the Skyfall of slasher movies.

Instruction Manuel
May 15, 2007

Yes, it is what it looks like!

Solice Kirsk posted:

Freddy vs Jason is one of the best slasher movies of all time. And it's shot way more beautifully than it had any right to be. It's basically the Skyfall of slasher movies.

Anyone else getted hyped as gently caress at the end of "Jason Goes to Hell"


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Oqcgs6J9EU

Bust Rodd
Oct 21, 2008

by VideoGames
The buried lede in not-gay fesh is “I’ve never even seen a vagina” so like you’ve been sexually intimate with only men ever?

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm forever

Danaru
Jun 5, 2012

何 ??

Wamdoodle posted:

Anyone else getted hyped as gently caress at the end of "Jason Goes to Hell"


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Oqcgs6J9EU

I still choose to believe Jason Goes To Hell ends shortly after Jason's vapourized by mortar fire. The director very openly wanted to make an Evil Dead movie, which would be fine and all if he weren't making an F13 movie. :smith: Jason's got enough going on without the body snatcher stuff. Just stitch the clip of Freddy grabbing his mask after the part where the FBI are all cheering since that part loving rules

With that said, I always wanted the developers of the game to add Kane Hodder as his FBI character as a hero you can play as instead of Tommy. Instead of slamming a machete into his face, Kane would call in the mortar strike from the movie :buddy:

sugar free jazz
Mar 5, 2008

loquacius posted:

To be really sure he'd have to cut off his butt too

Eeeeeh don’t you think that’s a little extreme though?

Azza Bamboo
Apr 7, 2018


THUNDERDOME LOSER 2021
You can't cut off your butthole in the conventional way. You have to "cut it off" from the source using a colostomy.

HugeGrossBurrito
Mar 20, 2018

Azza Bamboo posted:

You can't cut off your butthole in the conventional way. You have to "cut it off" from the source using a colostomy.

Anza Borrego
Feb 11, 2005

Ovis canadensis nelsoni
Vacancy is one of my favorite suspense/horror movies of the last decade, the tension and pacing is v. good.

HugeGrossBurrito posted:

I've been thinking about doing a big horror movie post, wife and I have been watching so many recently there are a surprising number of good ones between Netflix and Amazon Prime.

Yes please.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

Danaru posted:

I still choose to believe Jason Goes To Hell ends shortly after Jason's vapourized by mortar fire. The director very openly wanted to make an Evil Dead movie, which would be fine and all if he weren't making an F13 movie. :smith: Jason's got enough going on without the body snatcher stuff. Just stitch the clip of Freddy grabbing his mask after the part where the FBI are all cheering since that part loving rules

With that said, I always wanted the developers of the game to add Kane Hodder as his FBI character as a hero you can play as instead of Tommy. Instead of slamming a machete into his face, Kane would call in the mortar strike from the movie :buddy:

There's something funny about horror movie monsters coming up against people with actual guns and getting completely wrecked because they're used to preying on distracted teenagers. Like if Silence of the Lambs ended with Hannibal getting filled with bullets by a SWAT team. Or the Joker. (also reminded that The Dark Knight probably, and apparently canonically according to Nolan or someone, getting sent to Gitmo or a Supermax for the rest of his life for being a goddamn terrorist)

And then on the other hand, Predator has a horror movie monster that specifically preys ON heavily armed badasses.

Cabin in the Woods was weird but kind of makes sense in a 'commercialisation of the fantastic' way where all the monsters and killers are basically kept in a zoo and used as circus performers to appease an audience who could tear the whole thing down if dissatisfied. (the Ancients are a metaphor for the film audience)

ToxicSlurpee
Nov 5, 2003

-=SEND HELP=-


Pillbug

Applesnots posted:

Torture porn is bad, Troma is...well it is just stupid. But fun. Like the toxic avenger. Or Class of Nukem High.

The great thing about Troma is that they know they're stupid, low-budget schlock and they just run with it. Chopper Chicks in Zombie Town is the one of the most entertaining movies I've ever seen. It knows it's trashy and awful and boy howdy does it have fun with it.

bell jar
Feb 25, 2009

stroke dad goon owns, dad sounds like a real piece of poo poo

yeah I eat ass
Mar 14, 2005

only people who enjoy my posting can replace this avatar

HugeGrossBurrito posted:

I've been thinking about doing a big horror movie post, wife and I have been watching so many recently there are a surprising number of good ones between Netflix and Amazon Prime.

I would be interested in this. I have a lot of horror movie opinions and nowhere to put them. My life goal is to watch every syfy original movie (which tend more toward horror than scifi) but there are so many. I think last time I checked I was around 60% through, which is far too many bad horror movies for one lifetime, but i can't stop now.

alpaca diseases
May 19, 2009

Android Blues posted:

Yes, and I should make the caveat that there's a lot of good horror out there, and I'm a huge horror fan. Just that as a kid, you kinda figured, "ah, horror is about psychologically upsetting things, not just people getting exploded so their guts fly everywhere," when actually there are a million and one terrible adult horror novels out there that are entirely about people getting exploded so their guts fly everywhere, written at a sub-Goosebumps reading level.

Also, so many adult horror novels that are packed with sleazy, masturbatory sex scenes that are both laughably clunky and viscerally upsetting (but not in the way the author intends them to be).

I remember reading a book like that but can’t for the life of me remember what it was called

Things I remember;
Some guy swimming in the poo poo tank of a roadside toilet, is discovered by his daughter who happens to stop there- you think he’s a ghoul or something but turns out he just went crazy
The big bad is powerless against Jade
rear end eating (incredibly descriptive)
The book had like a spooky house behind iron wrought fence type cover
Heads in an oven

But hey I was deployed and there was gently caress all else to read by the end of it

alpaca diseases fucked around with this message at 12:32 on Aug 25, 2018

P-Mack
Nov 10, 2007

Please make a horror movie thread in Blockbuster Video and link it here. That sub needs more love.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
Horror seems like a genre that thrives on restraint, otherwise it's going to be basically nothing but teenagers having sex and getting their sexy bits chopped off forever.

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

Followup from coma dad goon mostly in response to me:

quote:

I changed "state" to "province" in a half assed attempt an anonymization.

Most US states let you hit kids assuming no marks are left.

#themoreyouknow

I think it's a question of "what will get you literally arrested and taken to jail" vs "what will get your kids taken away if the right people find out about it" because my wife is a school counselor and she's had to contact DCF over less severe situations than "kid comes into school with unexplained black eye" but then again we do live in one of the only good US states so

quote:

So the am-i-gay-or-just-loving-a-lot-of-guys goon piqued my interest

I also went through a similar thought process. Eventually I ended up on an OkCupid date with a woman studying at the Kinsey Institute who introduced me to the Kinsey scale:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinsey_scale

Basically, being gay goes from a 0 to 6. 0=no homo, six is like completely, totally, 100% gay.

So a 1 would be like "hey i'm not gay but if you wanna suck my dick ehhhhh go ahead".

The other component I came to understand is women just aren't as into casual sex. It's risky in terms of pregnancy, risky in terms of guys being violent/rapey, and risky just in terms of them pumping and dumping and she didn't even cum UGHHHHHH

SO probably, OP just is give off "I want casual sex" vibes, and statistically there's a much smaller chance a woman will be into that.

My protip if you want casual sex is instead do online dating and look for professional women or recent divorcees looking for FWBs. There's a lot of people who if you are a generous lover (let me spell it out for you: E-A-T-T-H-E-P-U-S-S-Y and fun to chit chat with over dinner, that you'll easily be able to schedule netflix and chills or dinner and fucks.

Then again, I'm into food and movies so I can actually sit down and WATCH a film or pick a cool restaurant and talk about the food.

If you want to just walk up to women at parties and have them suck your dick in the coat closet... sorry buddy, the dream is dead.

I don't want be weird incel-y but men and women do have differences in courtship etc. Expand your horizons a bit. If you honest (not crass, but not leading people on) you'll find some sex (with a girl!)

Protip: "Short term dating" is OKCupid speak for "I just wanna gently caress but I'm classy about it"

I'm not sure how great of advice a lot of this is

Like, I don't think the problem with the guy who has tried to have sex with guys but physically cannot perform from lack of interest is that he's never heard of bisexuality (and also you'd probably need a little higher than a 1/6 on the Kinsey scale to let a guy suck your dick, that's more "I'm straight but I occasionally catch myself checking out guys on the street if they're well-dressed enough" territory)

And also I don't think the guy who has never seen a vagina is having a problem where he doesn't eat pussy enough (if anything he could end up being TOO eager to please and come off as a puppy-dog doormat), and giving off "I want casual sex" vibes when he's only trying at parties shouldn't be enough of a death sentence that they never show any interest at all (if he were giving off those vibes at, like, bookstores or speed dating, that'd be a different story). Sticking with my too-easily-discouraged diagnosis.

Bust Rodd
Oct 21, 2008

by VideoGames
The Kinsey Scale is an extremely useful but very dated tool. It doesn’t reflect the impact of psychological and emotional attraction as a component of physiological attraction.

The new hotness is the Red//Purple scale:


So I put myself as an E2, meaning I’m mostly straight but will be incidentally attracted or aroused by same sex people as me in the right conditions, and while sex isn’t the only thing that matters to me in a relationship, it’s very important and of my partner doesn’t have the same sex drive then we definitely won’t work out.

Bust Rodd fucked around with this message at 15:30 on Aug 25, 2018

Azza Bamboo
Apr 7, 2018


THUNDERDOME LOSER 2021
I put myself at...

...not needing to navel gaze about this stuff.

I don't mean that to say this scale sucks or anything. I just feel like it's missing a trick when it comes to the weird mess that is relationships. I feel like deciding what I do in any given situation is more important than figuring out what it means or possibly who I am. When I'm attracted to someone "do I try to take this anywhere?" is a much bigger concern than "on a fundamental level am I primarily romantic as a person?" When it comes down to you, another person, some awkward feelings and attempting a conversation what is the use in knowing the latter?

Like maybe if this guy decided to not have sex with men it'd be a lot less awkward.

Azza Bamboo fucked around with this message at 16:02 on Aug 25, 2018

Odd
Dec 30, 2006

I think everybody just needs to maybe cool out a little maybe
what's the difference between "aesthetic" attraction and regular style?

yeah I eat ass
Mar 14, 2005

only people who enjoy my posting can replace this avatar

Azza Bamboo posted:

I put myself at...

...not needing to navel gaze about this stuff.

I don't mean that to say this scale sucks or anything. I just feel like it's missing a trick when it comes to the weird mess that is relationships. I feel like deciding what I do in any given situation is more important than figuring out what it means or possibly who I am. When I'm attracted to someone "do I try to take this anywhere?" is a much bigger concern than "on a fundamental level am I primarily romantic as a person?" When it comes down to you, another person, some awkward feelings and attempting a conversation what is the use in knowing the latter?

Like maybe if this guy decided to not have sex with men it'd be a lot less awkward.

I think it's kind of silly to try and put a label on things that are inherently fluid. Like those personality type tests. Your personality changes. The people you are attracted to can also change. Even if they didn't, what good is knowing what label you are beyond just curiosity? Just be yourself.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

yeah I eat rear end posted:

I think it's kind of silly to try and put a label on things that are inherently fluid. Like those personality type tests. Your personality changes. The people you are attracted to can also change. Even if they didn't, what good is knowing what label you are beyond just curiosity? Just be yourself.

People desperately what some kind of context and guide through which they can better navigate a complex and hostile world where the basics of social interaction present ever-growing barriers.

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Azza Bamboo
Apr 7, 2018


THUNDERDOME LOSER 2021
The best guide is a friend who you do stupid poo poo with when you're together and you don't quite know why. I don't mean sexual, I mean keeping it real.

There's this guy I know and every time we're near each other we just beatbox and make up ad hoc rhymes even though we're the whitest people ever. Someone behind us once said "can you stop that" and we just sampled that poo poo using our voice. If you're willing to just keep it real, beautiful things can happen. Stuff like this isn't planned. I would never in a million years have planned to beatbox nor would I think of myself as someone who is fundamentally into beatboxing but it's just what happens when this guy and I are together, you know? It's like an unspoken competition where we're trying to up the ante on how cringey we can be as white people.

Azza Bamboo fucked around with this message at 16:46 on Aug 25, 2018

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