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PancakeTransmission
May 27, 2007

You gotta improvise, Lisa: cloves, Tom Collins mix, frozen pie crust...


Plaster Town Cop

Smirking_Serpent posted:

WIBTA if I didn't give my cousin the money from her graduation gift?
it was a lot for me and I had financed it, and it would be really financially uncomfortable for me to cough up such a large amount of money in one month.
No but you're an idiot for spending money you couldn't afford in the first place

A Wizard of Goatse posted:

..."value my generosity"?
They want to act like the big man/woman of the family, but don't have the money to pull it off :lol:

Smirking_Serpent posted:

AITA For requesting that the embedded gratuity in my restaurant bill be removed?

A couple of years ago I
Yes probably. Move on

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Willfrey
Jul 20, 2007

Why don't the poors simply buy more money?
Fun Shoe

b mad at me posted:

"She say she can track this "metric" in a "pivot table"?"

this is fake as gently caress

Nah its true.

I am wrapping up my Q2 analysis, gotta push this data to an easy-to-digest powerpoint. If these numbers keep trending i am going to knock Q3 out of the park

kru
Oct 5, 2003

Pinecone Sample posted:

I would never share my spreadsheet with a partner but lol just lol if you are not practicing data-driven jerkoff sessions

imagine the raw (data??) on your hands

welcome to hell
Jun 9, 2006
MIL [52] poo poo in the cats litter box and now everyone is blaming my son [3M] when everyone clearly knows it was actually MIL. Can't bring myself [32M] to toe the company line; wife extremely upset

quote:

Basically the title. 3 weeks ago.

Family lunch at our house for my daughter's birthday [2F]. Me, wife, kids (2), my parents, wife's mum, wife's sister.

Two bathroom house; two story house. Kids and us sleep upstairs and there is a bathroom up there we all use. There is a spare bathroom next to the laundry downstairs which is used as the litterbox bathroom/spare toilet for the adults when we can't be bothered going upstairs. NB: Flush often gets stuck down making it run water constantly; only way to unstick it is to open the top and unjam it.

Son is getting toilet trained, but all his stuff is in the upstairs bathroom; none downstairs; also (key point) downstairs bathroom is a no-go for the kids as it is connected to the laundry with poisons/chemicals in the cupboards so we keep them out.

So:

Family lunch; wife has son upstairs taking him to the loo while I cook the meat. He has diarrhoea today so we've tag teamed taking him up there as he's prone to make a mess in that setting. I go to go use the downstairs bathroom after flipping the burgers and leaving dad in charge. Run into MIL slipping out of the bathroom and she goes beet red and is kinda blocking my way in. She figures out I ain't gonna not go in so she blurts out "I think [son] had an accident in there."

So I go in and there it is, a poo in the litter box. A big well-formed one; certainly not diarrhoea. I look in the toilet and there is a heap of toilet paper in there and i note the toilet is "running" i.e. the cisturn has been jammed and not filling making it impossible to generate a flush volume.

So immediately it is obvious what has happened:

Person 1 has used the toilet and got the flusher jammed.

Person 2 has taken a fat poo poo in the loo and then been unable to flush it.

Person 2 has no idea how toilets/cisterns work and therefore not been able to figure out how to dispose of the poo.

Person 2 has fished the poo out of the water (maybe using toilet paper, maybe not) and dumped it in the litter box (+/- putting toilet paper back into toilet)

MIL has exited toilet... She is the prime suspect for Person 2. Now other possible suspects: Me and wife (no), son (no has diarrhoea), daughter (no, can't reach door handle), My parents (not retards with toilets), wife's sister (been outside with me entire time and not gone to loo yet), cat (I'd put it down if it could produce shits that big).

So anyway, MIL slips away and I then have to clean up her poo and flush it. Disgusting, but whatever, right? Wrong:

During lunch MIL clears her throat and says "there's something we need to discuss." She then goes on to say how concerned she was with what she had found in the bathroom and how [son] needs to be punished for doing it. Making everyone agree that it was definitely [son] and therefore he needs reprimanding. My wife is like WTF how could it be son, but MIL shushes her and asks to talk to her in private. When they're gone everyone is like WTF? did son do that? Eventually they come back and wife just sits there silently while MIL rebukes son infront of family and makes him cry. When I interject wife kicks me under the table and tells me to stop. MIL rants and raves about poor toilet training and then eventually the lunch is over and everyone leaves.

Anyway, I'm feeling really uncomfortable during the entire thing and not okay with what is happening to my son. Wife later tells me that her mum admitted it was her, but she's had problems with pain-killers causing constipation or something... as if this somehow makes her transferring poo poo into a litter box and blaming it on son okay?

Fastforward to today: MIL comes over for dinner and everything seems chill. My family drop in on the way home from a show while she's still there and it gets a bit awkward; MIL being really weird and won't shut up about things. Eventually parents make a joke about my son making GBS threads in the litter box (I never told them) and MIL freaks out. Starts asking if I've punished him yet, have I spanked my son for his indiscretion? (!?!) She eventually goes upstairs to the bathroom and just when my parents are about to leave she comes back down with my son (woke him up and got him out of bed) and demands I spank him infront of my parents to punish him for making GBS threads in the litter box.

I'm like. Um, how about no? I think he's been punished enough and go to take him upstairs to bed. He's crying and saying he didn't do it and he's sorry. I'm trying to remove him from the room, MIL is yelling to hit him... I eventually tell ehr to shut up and that I know it was her who poo poo in the litter box. My parents excuse themselves from the scene and MIL starts crying. Wife is yelling at me. Son is crying.

So like... Now wife won't talk to me and says I need to apologise and spank my son infront of my parents and "admit I was confused when I blamed MIL" and that it was actually son who did it.

I'm like... umm... WTF is going on.

So yeah. Any ideas on how to placate everyone would be great.

VanSandman
Feb 16, 2011
SWAP.AVI EXCHANGER

welcome to hell posted:

MIL [52] poo poo in the cats litter box and now everyone is blaming my son [3M] when everyone clearly knows it was actually MIL. Can't bring myself [32M] to toe the company line; wife extremely upset

What a lovely family.

Sunswipe
Feb 5, 2016

by Fluffdaddy

welcome to hell posted:

MIL [52] poo poo in the cats litter box and now everyone is blaming my son [3M] when everyone clearly knows it was actually MIL. Can't bring myself [32M] to toe the company line; wife extremely upset

gently caress those people. Insist that your father-in-law spank your mother-in-law in front of everyone, then kill them.

teen witch
Oct 9, 2012

welcome to hell posted:

MIL [52] poo poo in the cats litter box and now everyone is blaming my son [3M] when everyone clearly knows it was actually MIL. Can't bring myself [32M] to toe the company line; wife extremely upset

ad090
Oct 4, 2013

claws for alarm
AITA for not offering to help take care of my friend's baby she insists on bringing while on vacation?

quote:

My friend is a young married mother of 4, with a 6 month old baby. I am a 30 year old single mom of two. Single in the sense that I don't get child support and never get time away from the kids so this is a huge deal for me. I love them so much but mama needs time to herself sometimes. My friend and I were both invited to a weekend getaway about 7 hours away and for the first time in two years, I'll be able to take a weekend vacation. YAY! However, my friend insists she MUST bring her 6 mo old baby because the baby breastfeeds. I told her there are no other kids going and there will be so much drinking and probably weed and mushrooms (knowing the crowd we are visiting). I am SO excited to go, but my friend asked me to take MY CAR and drive it there (a V8 SUV) because a train is too expensive. I told her the gas for my SUV will be WAY more expensive, and so she offered her car. I politely said I will be taking the train, I want to relax (and the last time we took a vaca together she left me with a $1000 bill for the rental car she didn't contribute to). Her husband could easily keep the baby with the other kids, and she could pump breastmilk ahead of time (which she has everything she needs to do). She is acting like she is expecting me to help her with the baby while we are gone and I basically said no way. I never get time off to myself and for three days I will not be taking care of anyone's kids. I told her I don't think it's appropriate to bring a baby to alcohol and possibly drug-filled weekend (even if you aren't partaking) and that she should come alone. Now she isn't talking to me and is probably not coming at all. I feel like the rear end in a top hat, but at the same time, she has childcare options and it isn't fair to ask someone else to use their vacation to help with your kid, who you insist on bringing. She has taken a few vacations (2 maybe) over the last two years (I couldn't go b/c I didn't have child-care), and her husband is awesome with the kids. He is a super hands-on equal partner. I know this because I've known them for years and I've spent so much time with them. I also know she is going to expect me to bend over backward to help her and be insulted if I don't. Still, I feel like a bad, unsupportive friend for not offering to help more, for not wanting to drive 7 hours with a baby, and for pointedly telling her it was inappropriate she is bringing the baby when I shouldn't ever really comment on her parenting. Maybe she's worried her milk will dry up, but again, she could pump while we are there to keep up supply. She's been breastfeeding non-stop for about 7 years now, so Idk if that would even be a concern. IDK.... AITA here?

MagusofStars
Mar 31, 2012



Pinecone Sample posted:

I would never share my spreadsheet with a partner but lol just lol if you are not practicing data-driven jerkoff sessions
I personally use a detailed Moneyball analytics model to evaluate performance. Gotta find those undervalued assets in your game, really target the market inefficiencies in the way you jack it.

kru
Oct 5, 2003

gently caress that, just absolutely gently caress that.

Dazerbeams
Jul 8, 2009

welcome to hell posted:

MIL [52] poo poo in the cats litter box and now everyone is blaming my son [3M] when everyone clearly knows it was actually MIL. Can't bring myself [32M] to toe the company line; wife extremely upset

That poor kid is going to grow up with pooping and trust issues for sure.

TheMaskedUgly
Sep 21, 2008

Let's play a different game.

welcome to hell posted:

MIL [52] poo poo in the cats litter box and now everyone is blaming my son [3M] when everyone clearly knows it was actually MIL. Can't bring myself [32M] to toe the company line; wife extremely upset

I just... I really sympathise with the poster here, because you can absolutely tell he's just reeling with incredulity

I don't even know how you're supposed to respond to that

Mr. Lobe
Feb 23, 2007

... Dry bones...


TheMaskedUgly posted:

I just... I really sympathise with the poster here, because you can absolutely tell he's just reeling with incredulity

I don't even know how you're supposed to respond to that

A divorce and therapy?

Sunswipe
Feb 5, 2016

by Fluffdaddy

TheMaskedUgly posted:

I just... I really sympathise with the poster here, because you can absolutely tell he's just reeling with incredulity

I don't even know how you're supposed to respond to that

Divorce with full custody of the child, mother has access only through supervised visitation.

Willfrey
Jul 20, 2007

Why don't the poors simply buy more money?
Fun Shoe
Maybe after all of this it was the cat who took a huge poo poo

Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Dec 22, 2005

GET LOSE, YOU CAN'T COMPARE WITH MY POWERS
It'd be different if she were quiet and embarrassed about it, but I can't imagine a universe where I would not immediately humiliate the MIL in front of everyone with what I saw. Why is he so submissive??? I would get a divorce rather than go along with yelling at my son for doing something understandable for a 3 year old instead of admitting the truth and humiliating the woman who tried to do that to him. Go to hell wife and mom, get a spine dad if you want to protect your kid from that madness.

Also, while that excel story is super fake, I want that to happen to me so badly. I cannot imagine the utter joy it would be to, each day, improvise 20 ways to masturbate to put in a table. You could add all sorts of columns, what you were thinking about, if there was any porn and if so, of what. Ahh, what a nice thought. I take commissions for 300/hour if anyone ever needs a jerkoff spreadsheet, don't trust an amateur, go with a pro.

Palpek
Dec 27, 2008


Do you feel it, Zach?
My coffee warned me about it.


welcome to hell posted:

MIL [52] poo poo in the cats litter box and now everyone is blaming my son [3M] when everyone clearly knows it was actually MIL. Can't bring myself [32M] to toe the company line; wife extremely upset
Not only are the MiL and wife insane but a pathological control over a young child's bowel movements (for example by spanking) is linked to the development of actual full-blown personality disorders. I'm not exaggerating, there have been studies done on this. The MiL advocates here for destroying her grandchild's psyche over her narcissism and it seems she already hosed her daughter up.

This guy really needs to understand how serious this situation is because the MiL should never be left alone with the grandchild in the future as she will try to get revenge. It's not just about this one situation. This is some truly hosed up poo poo.

Meme Emulator
Oct 4, 2000

Antivehicular posted:

It's pretty bad when the best option is "housing a sugar baby"

E:f,b

Cmon, best case scenario is got some sort of a strange rear end hobby like Taxidermy and thats his workshop

Fuck Your Website
Nov 29, 2003
FUCK YOU, AND FUCK YOUR WEBSITE

MagusofStars posted:

I personally use a detailed Moneyball analytics model to evaluate performance. Gotta find those undervalued assets in your game, really target the market inefficiencies in the way you jack it.

This is some chump game right here, moneyball analysis is so early 2000s. I contract a big data mining firm to track jacking trends across multiple dashboards updated in real time.

TheMaskedUgly
Sep 21, 2008

Let's play a different game.
That's the stupidest thing about it; if she'd just said nothing or let it go, the husband was absolutely going to keep it quiet, but then she publicly shames his son, and when that's not enough, she literally drags his child to him and commands him to beat the kid for her lie.
The one person who absolutely knows she's lying, and who is least likely to cover for her

This is the behaviour of someone who wants to be called out. IDGI!

I just dont understand any of this

TheMaskedUgly
Sep 21, 2008

Let's play a different game.
I'm done, sign the dnr, turn off the life-support

Palpek
Dec 27, 2008


Do you feel it, Zach?
My coffee warned me about it.


TheMaskedUgly posted:

That's the stupidest thing about it; if she'd just said nothing or let it go, the husband was absolutely going to keep it quiet, but then she publicly shames his son, and when that's not enough, she literally drags his child to him and commands him to beat the kid for her lie.

This is the behaviour of someone who wants to be called out. IDGI!

I just dont understand any of this
It's because she has a narcissistic personality disorder. Not the "haha, she only thinks about herself" sitcom kind but the actual diagnosable kind. This is how she perceives the world. She's capable of destroying people, especially children, to save face.

Grape
Nov 16, 2017

Happily shilling for China!

welcome to hell posted:

MIL [52] poo poo in the cats litter box and now everyone is blaming my son [3M] when everyone clearly knows it was actually MIL. Can't bring myself [32M] to toe the company line; wife extremely upset

gently caress that. Wife needs to figure out her loyalties here, maybe she's terrified of her own mom but when your kid is the one getting the abuse either put the foot down or gently caress you.

Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Dec 22, 2005

GET LOSE, YOU CAN'T COMPARE WITH MY POWERS
Yeah for me it would take a bit of restraint not to make jokes about someone pooping in a litter box. It's so easy and funny and everyone but her would laugh and yet, I'd have the grace to let the old woman be strange and let it go, for the sake of my family. A sibling or friend probably wouldn't rate and I'd have to make fun of them, I don't think I could stop it. I just can't fathom having that much restraint, making it that far, and then going along with it still when MIL brings it up herself. An adult human pooped in a litterbox. It's funny. The world should know.

This is all without even taking into account the part where she's now using her own weird poop story as a cudgel to repeatedly harm my child. Like that's unconscionable. If it came to that I think I would spend multiple evenings photoshopping MIL pooping in a litterbox and personally pay for it to be displayed on a highway billboard until she admits it and apologizes in front of all of her children and grandchildren.

Serephina
Nov 8, 2005

恐竜戦隊
ジュウレンジャー

Smirking_Serpent posted:

AITA For requesting that the embedded gratuity in my restaurant bill be removed?

TLDR: Grumpy server forgets my order, so I request that my embedded gratuity (18% automatically included for all members of a party greater than 6) be taken out, and she starts to cry. AITA?

I absolutely hate everything about this. That tips in the States are so expected as to be literally mandatory, yet still not rolled into the price and just paid out via wages/salary. That a server can do such a poo poo job and it's still a forced 'tip', since it's their baseline salary. But most of all I just get hugely ticked off hearing about bad service as a hospo guy. Everything Sucks Here, indeed.

sephiRoth IRA
Jun 13, 2007

"Science is not only compatible with spirituality; it is a profound source of spirituality."

-Carl Sagan
I’m going to call that one fake in an effort to preserve my own sanity. Were it real I would have burned all those relationships in an effort to protect my son and the temptation to beat an old woman would have been overwhelming. What a depressing thing :(

sephiRoth IRA
Jun 13, 2007

"Science is not only compatible with spirituality; it is a profound source of spirituality."

-Carl Sagan
More “I opened my relationship to gently caress my coworker and now my wife is having the time of her sexual life” and less horrific child abuse please :( :( :(

Pinecone Sample
Oct 12, 2010

THIS ACCOUNT HAS BEEN SEIZED
by the United States Federal Bureau of Investigation in accordance with a seizure warrant issued pursuant to 69 U.S.C Sec. 420
Is spanking considered abuse in the United Kingdom? The wife is further cowardly for not spanking her son herself, and also simply playing her role as a pawn to her mother's world of manipulation. If she wants it done, tell her she's going to do it herself, while you record it and narrate MIL's litter box making GBS threads, and that it will be seen in family court. Choose your allegiance.

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

Pinecone Sample posted:

Is spanking considered abuse in the United Kingdom? The wife is further cowardly for not spanking her son herself, and also simply playing her role as a pawn to her mother's world of manipulation. If she wants it done, tell her she's going to do it herself, while you record it and narrate MIL's litter box making GBS threads, and that it will be seen in family court. Choose your allegiance.

Spanking is considered abuse by anyone with a shred of sense, but is unfortunately legal just about everywhere.

Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Dec 22, 2005

GET LOSE, YOU CAN'T COMPARE WITH MY POWERS
Frankly I'd want my parents to have my back in making fun of the litter box shitter instead of excusing themselves like cowards. No quarter. You jeer at whoever I tell you to jeer at, I'm the man of this house.

TheMaskedUgly
Sep 21, 2008

Let's play a different game.

Pinecone Sample posted:

Is spanking considered abuse in the United Kingdom? The wife is further cowardly for not spanking her son herself, and also simply playing her role as a pawn to her mother's world of manipulation. If she wants it done, tell her she's going to do it herself, while you record it and narrate MIL's litter box making GBS threads, and that it will be seen in family court. Choose your allegiance.

It's generally frowned upon, usually strongly, but parents do have a fair bit of leeway as long as there's nothing visible; it's not unheard of, and if anyone questions it, you'll always get the 'I was beaten every day growing up, and the only downside is my overwhelming need to beat my own children, despite all evidence'

Is it a power-play from the MIL, you think?
She would have been content letting it go, if only the husband hadn't caught her dead to rights; everyone else is either more likely to believe the kid did it, or is the mother (who plainly can be coerced easily), but there's the one person who she doesn't have power over, and due to getting caught, she's handed him too much power?
She can't face him every thanksgiving or whatever, imagining him smirking at her literally making GBS threads in the loving... jesus I can't even

The only way to even the playing field is to look him dead in the eye and say 'call my loving bluff I dare you?'

TheMaskedUgly fucked around with this message at 15:07 on May 31, 2019

Xik
Mar 10, 2011

Dinosaur Gum
That MIL can go gently caress herself. I feel like that's the sort of situation you can throw your marriage and family relationships away for the benefit of the kids.

chitoryu12 posted:

Spanking is considered abuse by anyone with a shred of sense, but is unfortunately legal just about everywhere.

FYI it's illegal in NZ. An "anti-smacking bill" went through just over a decade ago.

Anti-smacking bill becomes law
Crimes (Substituted Section 59) Amendment Act 2007

If someone is arguing a child doesn't deserve the same protection from assault as an adult they're basically a garbage human being and should be removed from this world.

Fuck Your Website
Nov 29, 2003
FUCK YOU, AND FUCK YOUR WEBSITE
Cue a boomer rant about how first they came for my right to say the n-word in public, then they wanted me to treats gays and trans people as humans, and now they won’t let me discipline my own kid in the manner god and the Bible intended??? This world is surely going to hell

Xik
Mar 10, 2011

Dinosaur Gum

gently caress Your Website posted:

Cue a boomer rant about how first they came for my right to say the n-word in public, then they wanted me to treats gays and trans people as humans, and now they won’t let me discipline my own kid in the manner god and the Bible intended??? This world is surely going to hell

Without a shred of humor; this was literally the situation when the bill was proposed. The christian parties and all the usual suspects started beating the drums for their right to smack their kids.

Palpek
Dec 27, 2008


Do you feel it, Zach?
My coffee warned me about it.


Spanking is illegal in most of Europe, "just about everywhere" is the US of A.

Anne Whateley
Feb 11, 2007
:unsmith: i like nice words

quote:

The legislation also carries an amendment . . . that says the police have the discretion not to prosecute complaints against a parent where the offence is considered to be inconsequential.

. . . with the compromise amendment, most of that opposition faded away.
That makes it pretty meaningless imo. Cops are not gonna move forward if you just spank your kids or whatever. What they are gonna prosecute is what was already illegal as child abuse.

Am I wrong? Has anyone gone to jail for spanking or slapping their kid without leaving marks? Or was the bill just a feelgood thing

kru
Oct 5, 2003

Palpek posted:

Spanking is illegal in most of Europe, "just about everywhere" is the US of A.

Scotland are passing a bill that outlaws it completely (because we own)

Lucid Nonsense
Aug 6, 2009

Welcome to the jungle, it gets worse here every day

welcome to hell posted:

My (25M) girlfriend (30F) want me to keep a record of my masturbation in an Excel spreadsheet so she can monitor, is this normal?

url=goodhousekeeping.com
distance_ejaculated=3"
room_for_improvement=twist at the top more often

Hughlander
May 11, 2005

kru posted:

Scotland are passing a bill that outlaws it completely (because we own)

CNN article from last year:
Some of the countries and territories that have bans are: Albania, Andorra, Argentina, Aruba, Austria, Benin, Bolivia, Brazil, Bulgaria, Cape Verde, Congo, Costa Rica, Croatia, Curaçao, Cyprus, Denmark, Estonia, Faroe Islands, Finland, Germany, Greece, Greenland, Honduras, Hungary, Iceland, Ireland, Israel, Kenya, Latvia, Liechtenstein, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Malta, Mongolia, Montenegro, Netherlands, New Zealand, Nicaragua, Norway, Paraguay, Peru, Pitcairn Islands, Poland, and Portugal.
The other countries and territories that have bans are: Moldova, Romania, San Marino, Slovenia, South Sudan, Spain, St. Maarten, Svalbard and Jan Mayen, Sweden, Macedonia, Togo, Tunisia, Turkmenistan, Ukraine, Uruguay, and Venezuela.

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kru
Oct 5, 2003

why does that invalidate that its a good thing? (it doesnt)

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