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Some science thing just brought Jeremy's mom back and it's extremely disturbing. And he's just being pouty and distrustful, instead of reacting to the fact that it's a literal nightmare.
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Jeb! Repetition posted:Some science thing just brought Jeremy's mom back and it's extremely disturbing. And he's just being pouty and distrustful, instead of reacting to the fact that it's a literal nightmare.
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Jun 29, 2017 07:26
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Nessus posted:Don't boss the little space child's grieving process! Look, I'm just imagining how much I'd be freaking out if I was a child in his situation. And it's a lot. In fact I'd be freaking out a lot more even as an adult lol
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Jun 29, 2017 07:28
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Jeb! Repetition posted:Ho gently caress
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Jun 29, 2017 07:29
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Jeb! Repetition posted:Look, I'm just imagining how much I'd be freaking out if I was a child in his situation. And it's a lot. In fact I'd be freaking out a lot more even as an adult lol
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Jun 29, 2017 07:32
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Jun 29, 2017 07:33
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Jun 29, 2017 07:39
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Whoa. That moment where Wesley confesses he was angry at Picard for coming home when his father didn't was the realest moment of drama in the series so far.
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Jun 29, 2017 07:41
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Jeb! Repetition posted:Whoa. That moment where Wesley confesses he was angry at Picard for coming home when his father didn't was the realest moment of drama in the series so far.  . It's so raw. The only downside is that, poo poo, Wil Wheaton's face must've broken out hard this episode, because he's clearly having to act through layers of makeup this episode.
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Jun 29, 2017 07:44
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So that episode definitely had the most feels yet but there was still a kind of stymied quality that kept me from getting all the way into it, and also a little bit of mood whiplash. The cinematography was interesting, I don't know who the director of photography was but they used a lot more tricks than usual like depth of field, foreground objects, closeups and artistic blocking. One moment I actually found funny, where Picard's head came into the frame closeup from below, it was kind of cartoonish or Monty Pythonesque.
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Jun 29, 2017 07:50
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Jeb! Repetition posted:
Looks more like guava juice. Tried to confirm via google images but I can't because apparently Guava Juice is some YouTuber and all the results are his face and logo because this is the darkest timeline where nothing makes sense and Worf wears red
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Jun 29, 2017 08:01
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Jeb! Repetition posted:So that episode definitely had the most feels yet but there was still a kind of stymied quality that kept me from getting all the way into it, and also a little bit of mood whiplash. And that was Ronald D. Moore's first Trek script! He submitted it spec and it was rewritten by the locals after that, but it was enough to get him an invite later.
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Jun 29, 2017 08:12
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Jeb! Repetition posted:The grid-light set they're in is cool and I don't think I've seen it before. The computer core? I think it showed up once or twice before, like in the ep with the guy doing the study on that rare nova and Wesley accidentally makes smart nanites.
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Jun 29, 2017 09:08
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Jeb! Repetition posted:The kid is accepting his mom's death way too well and it ties in with the discussion folks have been having ITT about just how much the future will help us deal with social and emotional problems. By the way, the original draft had the kid being way worse off and then creating his mom on the holodeck and getting all dependent on that in a creepy way, but Gene nixed it because we've evolved past dealing with death badly in the future so they made her an alien.
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Jeb! Repetition posted:Scared O'Brien is funny Well, you'll love DS9! A lightsaber?
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Jun 29, 2017 11:04
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I still can't quite believe they're going with that hideous ship.
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That ship is like if Starfleet had sex with the Klingon Empire and drank while it was pregnant.
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Decently bland It doesn't have faces half-obscured by shadows/lightrays/lens flares so I guess that's something.
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Powered Descent posted:Maybe that was Barclay's problem; he read it wrong and spent his free time in the Horology Chamber learning to repair watches. No wonder he was so much less relaxed than the rest of the crew. That would explain his nervous ticks!
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Wheezle posted:I still can't quite believe they're going with that hideous ship. It's been said before and will again, but it'd be so much more palatable if the saucer was 30% bigger.
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MikeJF posted:It's been said before and will again, but it'd be so much more palatable if the saucer was 30% bigger. Then you'll love the refit in season five!
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Jun 29, 2017 13:09
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Jeb! Repetition posted:So that episode definitely had the most feels yet but there was still a kind of stymied quality that kept me from getting all the way into it, and also a little bit of mood whiplash. The cinematography was interesting, I don't know who the director of photography was but they used a lot more tricks than usual like depth of field, foreground objects, closeups and artistic blocking. One moment I actually found funny, where Picard's head came into the frame closeup from below, it was kind of cartoonish or Monty Pythonesque. Season 3 is when the directing improved to the point that kid me actually noticed it. Everything went up a notch that season, including the writing and acting. You've reached Peak Trek here.
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Astroman posted:Season 3 is when the directing improved to the point that kid me actually noticed it. Everything went up a notch that season, including the writing and acting. You've reached Peak Trek here. Nah, Peak is TNG 4.
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VitalSigns posted:That's been pretty standard characterization for Vulcans all the way to TOS, remember Valeris? She made the cold calculation that Klingons would most likely be unreliable and untrustworthy allies and helping them now was too big a risk that they might become too strong and decide to destroy the Federation later (and the events of Yesterday's Enterprise showed that she was completely correct, only a fluke self-sacrificial intervention by a Federation ship that happened to be near a Romulan attack kept the political situation in the Federation's favor). So she logically allied with Klingon hardliners to try to assassinate the leaders of both countries to start a hot war that would kill billions of people but that the Federation would definitely win because the Praxis disaster temporarily crippled the Klingon Empire, rather than take the risk they might lose a future war. And the only reason she didn't succeed completely was her emotional decision to not kill Kirk and Spock in sickbay when they discovered her involvement in the conspiracy. Spock even tells her killing them immediately is the logical thing to do. I appreciate the post, but I said that wasn't my problem with her per se. It was that she was played naive and blasé, not stoic. Valeris was a little of that too; I don't know. I'm still going with this one was a Romulan agent. Nessus posted:I actually appreciate how they have serial plots but they package things up so you can actually watch a loving episode and it's like: This is a story! It completed! Depends on how you watch it, of course. If you like just popping on an episode at random, I can see that. Jeb! Repetition posted:gently caress the dead away team member left an orphan. At least it goes against the idea of dead crew members being disposable and immediately forgotten. TNG's actually been pretty good about that through the whole run so far. I heard TOS isn't. You heard that, eh? Why don't you try watching it for yourself? MikeJF posted:It's been said before and will again, but it'd be so much more palatable if the saucer was 30% bigger. So, the opposite of Enterprise-D.
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MikeJF posted:By the way, the original draft had the kid being way worse off and then creating his mom on the holodeck and getting all dependent on that in a creepy way, but Gene nixed it because we've evolved past dealing with death badly in the future so they made her an alien. Sure, do you remember in "The Neutral Zone" (I think - it's the one where they unfreeze some cryogenically preserved people from the 21st century) where Crusher says something like, "Did you know that people in the 21st century were afraid of death? It terrified them!" completely disbelievingly? Doesn't exactly tally with everything we see elsewhere in the programme; indeed, in the very next season you have that ailing Starfleet admiral who's desperately trying to get a few more years so he can finish his work.
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The Neutral Zone is one of the best s1 episodes, but it still has a lot of weird perfect future people stuff in it. I guess you can argue that someone Crusher's age could live another hundred years, so she still has teenage immortality syndrome, but her husband loving died and it left her... crushed, so wtf is she even talking about.
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As much as I love ST6 I wish they had gone with the original intent of Valeris being Saavik. It would have made it an even better movie.
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Duckbag posted:The Neutral Zone is one of the best s1 episodes, but it still has a lot of weird perfect future people stuff in it. I guess you can argue that someone Crusher's age could live another hundred years, so she still has teenage immortality syndrome, but her husband loving died and it left her... crushed, so wtf is she even talking about. There's the businessman who asks Picard about his investments and Picard says, "I'm sorry, but we don't have money any more, so you won't have any investments to check," but I sort of enjoy that there was a tie-in novel years later which revealed that that guy later became the Federation's minister of trade.
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Wheat Loaf posted:Sure, do you remember in "The Neutral Zone" (I think - it's the one where they unfreeze some cryogenically preserved people from the 21st century) where Crusher says something like, "Did you know that people in the 21st century were afraid of death? It terrified them!" completely disbelievingly? Doesn't exactly tally with everything we see elsewhere in the programme; indeed, in the very next season you have that ailing Starfleet admiral who's desperately trying to get a few more years so he can finish his work. I'm not sure that specific example is very good, because wanting to finish your work is a different motivation than simply not wanting to die because you are afraid. Your point in general stands, though. People certainly run screaming from the crystalline entity, for example.
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VitalSigns posted:That's been pretty standard characterization for Vulcans all the way to TOS, remember Valeris? She made the cold calculation that Klingons would most likely be unreliable and untrustworthy allies and helping them now was too big a risk that they might become too strong and decide to destroy the Federation later (and the events of Yesterday's Enterprise showed that she was completely correct, only a fluke self-sacrificial intervention by a Federation ship that happened to be near a Romulan attack kept the political situation in the Federation's favor). So she logically allied with Klingon hardliners to try to assassinate the leaders of both countries to start a hot war that would kill billions of people but that the Federation would definitely win because the Praxis disaster temporarily crippled the Klingon Empire, rather than take the risk they might lose a future war. And the only reason she didn't succeed completely was her emotional decision to not kill Kirk and Spock in sickbay when they discovered her involvement in the conspiracy. Spock even tells her killing them immediately is the logical thing to do. ST6 is probably my favorite Trek movie but boy do I wish someone else played Valeris. Kim Cattrall plays her like she's in a porn parody, and not that good TNG porn parody they made.
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Reminder that TNG churned through over 35 writers on season one and Gene was pretty erratic about what he wanted on any given day.
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Gene had some really slimy friends of his working on the show in seasons 1, and to an extent, 2.
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FlamingLiberal posted:As much as I love ST6 I wish they had gone with the original intent of Valeris being Saavik. It would have made it an even better movie. Eh, it still would have stuck out like a sore thumb because of the clumsy plotting. There's a traitor on the Enterprise? Well, no poo poo it isn't going to be one of the core cast, so of course it's going to be the guest star.
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