p-lang thread: (now (have you (problems two)))

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GameCube: Nov 21, 2006

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p. interesting

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p. popular

# ? Mar 21, 2013 16:40

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# ? Jun 12, 2024 07:10

GameCube: Nov 21, 2006

zokie posted:

code:

    /// <summary>
    /// Initializes a new instance of the <see cref="T:Zokie.Buttz.ButtMaker"/> class.
    /// </summary>
    /// <param name="size">The size of the butt.</param><param name="color">The color of the poop.</param>
    ///<exception cref="T:System.ArgumentException"><paramref name="size"/> is negative or null.
    ///</exception>
    ///<exception cref="T:System.ArgumentException"><paramref name="color"/> is not Brown</exception>

If only there was a way to document stuff.

lol

# ? Mar 21, 2013 16:41

Cybernetic Vermin: Apr 18, 2005

Werthog 95 posted:

these are indeed fragments of a post i have made, good quoting work werthog

# ? Mar 21, 2013 16:43

FlapYoJacks: Feb 12, 2009

Mr Dog posted:

A wireless sensor device with a fair bit of fixed-point math code in its firmware

bitch

poo poo any sort of embedded work needs a lot of bit manipulation. Computer graphics, data compression, encryption, VMs or script interpreters for your lovely p-langs, there's a whole world out there beyond database skins.

or ok how about that clusterfuck with Scala and Facebook's Android app. A precious p-lang snowflake says "oh yay fewer keystrokes! let's go blog about this wonderful discovery", somebody who actually knows what the gently caress is going on says "hmm, that's interesting, this language looks cool but I wonder how the type systems and semantics map to those of the JVM?" and then looks at the implementation details, actually understands what he sees and says "oh god ".

and then sees that loving trainwreck coming from a mile away instead of spending god knows how many person hours getting mired in some horrible tar pit

My code crashes! What is memory?

# ? Mar 21, 2013 17:40

buttcoin smuggler: Jun 25, 2011

seriouspost: if i learn python and a take data structures and algorithms will i be able to get a job when i graduate y/n?

# ? Mar 22, 2013 01:46

PENETRATION TESTS: Dec 26, 2011; built upon dope and vice

sure, suckin dick!!

or programming

# ? Mar 22, 2013 01:48

buttcoin smuggler: Jun 25, 2011

i'm not a cs major. what do i need to know to/classes must i take to become computer employable.

someone smart told me that all i need to do is take like 3 CS classes and get good at solving brainteasers on the fly and google will hire me but idk

# ? Mar 22, 2013 01:49

Catalyst-proof: May 11, 2011; better waste some time with you

buttcoin smuggler posted:

i'm not a cs major. what do i need to know to/classes must i take to become computer employable.

someone smart told me that all i need to do is take like 3 CS classes and get good at solving brainteasers on the fly and google will hire me but idk

if you don't care about being a barista, you won't necessarily be a lovely barista

if you don't care about writing code, you will be a bad programmer

if you don't care about computer science and math, you will be a bad computer scientist

do it if you care about it, or have some grudge against the world, or you know your spite can fuel you

# ? Mar 22, 2013 01:53

Socracheese: Oct 20, 2008

buttcoin smuggler posted:

i'm not a cs major. what do i need to know to/classes must i take to become computer employable.

someone smart told me that all i need to do is take like 3 CS classes and get good at solving brainteasers on the fly and google will hire me but idk

why the hell would you want to work at google? and don't count on it if you ever got an A- ever in your life. ask rotor, they wanted his college transcripts, lol

considering theres like a zillion different directions you can go all with varyingly difficult barriers to entry this question is p vague. Web development is pretty easy and a good way to get your foot in the door and you can always (attempt to) move on later when you figure out how stupid it is

but seriously there are so many different computer things that i dont even know about. server janitoring is one that i think you can get into that pays p decently and you'd do pretty well with a general BS degree and a few certifications.

# ? Mar 22, 2013 01:54

Nomnom Cookie: Aug 30, 2009

buttcoin smuggler posted:

seriouspost: if i learn python and a take data structures and algorithms will i be able to get a job when i graduate y/n?

maybe, don't forget internships or smth idk. theory classes are good, you def need data structures and algorithms to get an interesting job but more theory always helps

or just take whatever and work for tbc

# ? Mar 22, 2013 02:00

abraham linksys: Sep 6, 2010

if you're worried about not having a CS degree, just take some time to Build Some Things (websites, apps, shell scripts, just get them on dat github) so you can show "im not just some chucklefuck who suddenly had a change of heart about his english major, i actually am in this for more than just money"

# ? Mar 22, 2013 02:26

abraham linksys: Sep 6, 2010

btw speaking of building things: did you know that the only thing worse than web app development is mobile web app development?

get used to the world of 10fps css animations (and that's after forcing GPU acceleration) and random things that don't work (what do you mean i can't .focus() a text field unless it's in a click event??)

i'm also considering using phonegap so i can have actual multitasking and a semi-standalone app, so that should be an exciting thing i'll never want to do again

# ? Mar 22, 2013 02:29

DONT THREAD ON ME: Oct 1, 2002; by Nyc_Tattoo; Floss Finder

there are also a lot of smaller businesses that need a programmer (although they don't know it) but don't need a guy with a phd in algorithms. if you have another skill/interest, you can study that and minor in CS (or just learn to program on thte side)

i started out working in tv, but now i basically program full time because holy poo poo, so many industries waste an insane amount of time manually doing things that can be asily automated. no one has written programs for these things because most of it is weird/proprietary

# ? Mar 22, 2013 02:33

Sapozhnik: Jan 2, 2005; Nap Ghost

abraham linksys posted:

get used to the world of 10fps css animations (and that's after forcing GPU acceleration) and random things that don't work (what do you mean i can't .focus() a text field unless it's in a click event??)

this sounds like it's probably a security thing

e: I once reported a bug in ~~WebKit~~ KHTML that let you jack arbitrary files off people's disks using a file upload control. Sure, technically it wasn't supposed to work if set it invisible using CSS, wasn't no rule against moving it 9999 px off to the left tho

aah those were the days

# ? Mar 22, 2013 03:11

Nomnom Cookie: Aug 30, 2009

chumpchous posted:

there are also a lot of smaller businesses that need a programmer (although they don't know it) but don't need a guy with a phd in algorithms. if you have another skill/interest, you can study that and minor in CS (or just learn to program on thte side)

i started out working in tv, but now i basically program full time because holy poo poo, so many industries waste an insane amount of time manually doing things that can be asily automated. no one has written programs for these things because most of it is weird/proprietary

btw all the good courses will only fill up a CS minor

# ? Mar 22, 2013 03:14

HORATIO HORNBLOWER: Sep 21, 2002; no ambition,
no talent,
no chance

i hated checked exceptions until i learned to use them properly and now i think they're the best thing ever

c#'s model just leads to all exceptions being ignored always, what's the point of it

anyone who writes catch(Exception e) or even worse Throwable t anywhere but the top level of a servlet should be summarily executed

# ? Mar 22, 2013 04:59

Nomnom Cookie: Aug 30, 2009

HORATIO HORNBLOWER posted:

i hated checked exceptions until i learned to use them properly and now i think they're the best thing ever

c#'s model just leads to all exceptions being ignored always, what's the point of it

anyone who writes catch(Exception e) or even worse Throwable t anywhere but the top level of a servlet should be summarily executed

basically you learned to not be a bad careless dev. but 90% of devs don't want to learn anything except P-langs on Pails

# ? Mar 22, 2013 05:02

DONT THREAD ON ME: Oct 1, 2002; by Nyc_Tattoo; Floss Finder

what is a p-lang?

# ? Mar 22, 2013 05:36

spongeh: Mar 22, 2009; BREADAGRAM OF PROTECTION

chumpchous posted:

what is a p-lang?

any language that the person posting doesn't like

# ? Mar 22, 2013 05:42

buttcoin smuggler: Jun 25, 2011

Nomnom Cookie posted:

btw all the good courses will only fill up a CS minor

which are these?

# ? Mar 22, 2013 06:14

Socracheese: Oct 20, 2008

buttcoin smuggler posted:

which are these?

for me the real meaty classes were called data structures, advanced data structures, systems programming, algorithm analysis, etc

# ? Mar 22, 2013 06:16

FamDav: Mar 29, 2008

Socracheese posted:

for me the real meaty classes were called data structures, advanced data structures, systems programming, algorithm analysis, etc

it was less depressing when i assumed you hadn't taken these classes.

# ? Mar 22, 2013 06:19

uG: Apr 23, 2003; by Ralp

you are suppose to skip the meaty ones cause they are hard

# ? Mar 22, 2013 06:26

Gazpacho: Jun 18, 2004; by Fluffdaddy; Slippery Tilde

that's all old-school stuff, did you take any classes aobut making web

# ? Mar 22, 2013 06:27

Cocoa Crispies: Jul 20, 2001; Vehicular Manslaughter!; Pillbug

chumpchous posted:

what is a p-lang?

productive languages where you can write simple code and have it work, such as a "hello world" program in one line, or a program to screen scrape a web page in under ten lines

# ? Mar 22, 2013 06:52

rotor: Jun 11, 2001; classic case of pineapple on pizzadog derangement syndrome

you know what bugs me? that thing where stuff is like "in this new language, you can write a web server in only 3 lines of code!"

code:

w = WebServer(8080)
w.setDocRoot("file:///Users/rotor/www")
w.start()

and then pretends that this means its a super productive language because omg only three lines?!?!

# ? Mar 22, 2013 07:05

Suspicious Dish: Sep 24, 2011; 2020 is the year of linux on the desktop, bro; Fun Shoe

my new language called "httpd" requires zero (0) sloc!

code:

$ echo -n "" > fart.httpd
$ httpd < fart.httpd

# ? Mar 22, 2013 07:09

MeruFM: Jul 27, 2010

rotor posted:

you know what bugs me? that thing where stuff is like "in this new language, you can write a web server in only 3 lines of code!"
code:
w = WebServer(8080)
w.setDocRoot("file:///Users/rotor/www")
w.start()
and then pretends that this means its a super productive language because omg only three lines?!?!

node.js.jpeg2000

# ? Mar 22, 2013 07:23

MeruFM: Jul 27, 2010

i only went to the website 2 or 3 times, but that stood out to me the most and was very confusing.

# ? Mar 22, 2013 07:25

Opinion Haver: Apr 9, 2007

rotor posted:

you know what bugs me? that thing where stuff is like "in this new language, you can write a web server in only 3 lines of code!"
code:
w = WebServer(8080)
w.setDocRoot("file:///Users/rotor/www")
w.start()
and then pretends that this means its a super productive language because omg only three lines?!?!

someone needs to write an hq9+ for this kind of stuff

you only have statements: one starts a blog engine, one starts a file server, and one prints hello world

# ? Mar 22, 2013 07:26

coaxmetal: Oct 21, 2010; I flamed me own dad

I didn't notice the yospos bitch in tefs av before is that new?

And also text editing, programming languages, Internet, donglecon. I didn't read recent posts but I'm probably on topic with that.

# ? Mar 22, 2013 07:33

Gazpacho: Jun 18, 2004; by Fluffdaddy; Slippery Tilde

rotor posted:

and then pretends that this means its a super productive language because omg only three lines?!?!

well how else are you going to convince CTOs that this is The Language that saves people from thinking

# ? Mar 22, 2013 07:41

MononcQc: May 29, 2007

From gar1t:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRbY3TMUcgQ

# ? Mar 22, 2013 09:02

prefect: Sep 11, 2001; No one, Woodhouse.
No one.; Dead Man’s Band

spongeh posted:

any language that the person posting doesn't like

it seems to boil down to compiled versus non-compiled* languages

* perl and python get compiled into bytecode, but it's not a distinct step from executing them, so they are considered non-compiled here

# ? Mar 22, 2013 12:02

Max Facetime: Apr 18, 2009

yaoi prophet posted:

someone needs to write an hq9+ for this kind of stuff

you only have statements: one starts a blog engine, one starts a file server, and one prints hello world

HQ9+B, an ℒ-complete extension of HQ9+.

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