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pop fly to McGillicutty posted:He's also a true isolationist.  A fascist will happily send a million of his nation’s soldiers to die so they can spend less money on gas to get to their pedophilic orgies. Spencer is just mad that war with Iran benefits (((those people)))
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Jan 12, 2020 07:24
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Jan 12, 2020 07:38
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Isn’t Spencer one of those fascists obsessed with poo poo like the war on masculinity, the feminization of men via SOY and the cultural imperialism of non-white European culture over Europe and North America? There’s a lot of fascists like that who only want to commit genocide in what they think are their own countries/regions and are totally fine with other countries doing whatever they want so long they never have to touch or see anything about said countries.
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Jan 12, 2020 08:00
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Spencer is also one of those white supremacists that recognizes the Persians as Aryans so his take is influenced by more than the typical anti-war or isolationist view.
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Jan 12, 2020 08:57
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An insane mind posted:One...huge...cone quote:I prefer perfectly spherical breasts tbh. I think there are versions of Tomb Raider which have you both covered.
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Jan 12, 2020 11:45
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Whenever I read this thread title I think of that wint quote. "who the gently caress is scraeming 'realize that you're going to die under trump' at my farm? show yourself, coward. I will never realize that"
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Jan 12, 2020 14:20
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well, how many? 
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existential anger posted:Isn’t Spencer one of those fascists obsessed with poo poo like the war on masculinity, the feminization of men via SOY and the cultural imperialism of non-white European culture over Europe and North America? Spencer focuses his fascism mainly on culture, so he apes a lot of the nazi focus on building a superior culture by going back to an imagined mythical time when that culture existed. Only for Spencer, it's pretty much just the Jim Crow South only without Black folks. He's from old money southern aristocracy, his family literally owns a plantation, so it's not exactly surprising. He taps into isolationist antiwar sentiment on the right because he (correctly) identifies that the only reason the US goes to war is for corporate profits, which is something that almost no other part of the right will ever say. Everything that flows from him from that point forward is monstrously wrong, obviously, but yeah, he uses that as a gateway.
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Jan 12, 2020 18:14
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Yeah he doesn't like war because it's not a holy crusade. Once "our house is in order" he'd be all over spreading the good word by the sword
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Jan 12, 2020 18:24
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Spencer's interest in Iran goes back a way. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jason_Jorjani Spencer founded the The Alternative Right with a guy who is a kind of Iranian Supremacist. Not that surprising. Ethno nationalists tend to get along. Even in just a tactical sense of showing that the other wants to live separately too.
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Jan 12, 2020 18:33
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Ethno nationalists tend to get along until they don’t. Their isolationism is genuine until the moment that they’re in power. After that anything that increases their power is fair game.
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Jan 12, 2020 20:03
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https://twitter.com/ChrisLu44/status/1215979385016201216 (lol)
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Jan 13, 2020 00:42
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You HATE to see it folks https://twitter.com/TomthunkitsMind/status/1216726137344229376
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Jan 13, 2020 15:20
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The Atomic Man-Boy posted:Ethno nationalists tend to get along until they don’t. Their isolationism is genuine until the moment that they’re in power. After that anything that increases their power is fair game. Yeah, though don't count out how strange that can make bedfellows until then; see Israel actively courting white supremacist parties as allies because Muslims are the current whipping boy.
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Jan 13, 2020 15:25
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Avirosb posted:You HATE to see it folks
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Jan 13, 2020 15:42
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Avirosb posted:You HATE to see it folks I do hate to see it, because all those farmers in the video said they were going to grit their teeth and vote for him again.
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Jan 13, 2020 15:49
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Looks like they killed the good Trump thread
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Jan 13, 2020 17:54
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Power Khan posted:Looks like they killed the good Trump thread https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?noseen=0&threadid=3880290 this one?
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Jan 13, 2020 17:59
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Jan 13, 2020 18:00
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Power Khan posted:Looks like they killed the good Trump thread
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Jan 13, 2020 18:11
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where is the lawful chaotic Trump thread?
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Jan 13, 2020 18:12
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there was another Trump thread? we've already got a trump thread and even a slower paced trump thread for babies, the Succ zone 3 is probably too many trump threads
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Jan 13, 2020 18:15
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there was a time when farms were small enough that owning a farm meant you worked the land, but in general that's long past in America, and I loving hate seeing 'farmers' being used to refer to wealthy business owners who make all their money off immigrant slave labor. I don't think farm work was so much better in the past, but it's real scummy to use the image people have in their brains of family farms to prop up another class of wealthy people who make their money by owning things. Stop talking about farm owners and start talking about farm workers.
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Jan 13, 2020 18:22
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A Buttery Pastry posted:You're posting in it. 
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Jan 13, 2020 18:29
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Azathoth posted:Spencer focuses his fascism mainly on culture, so he apes a lot of the nazi focus on building a superior culture by going back to an imagined mythical time when that culture existed. Only for Spencer, it's pretty much just the Jim Crow South only without Black folks. He's from old money southern aristocracy, his family literally owns a plantation, so it's not exactly surprising. Fascism without imperialism is incoherent, but this is America, that's not stopping anybody from believing in it sincerely.
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Jan 13, 2020 20:05
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Avirosb posted:You HATE to see it folks Of all the people I’ve seen in this thread having worse lives since electing their president, I think that fat guy is the first one to actually say that Trump backstabbed them, and that the trade war was a stupid idea? And he would STILL loving vote for Trump ‘unless they come up with a better alternative’??? Lol if these people can’t even vote for their own best interest correctly, it should be illegal for them to vote at all.
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Jan 13, 2020 20:22
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Minimum Syntaxing posted:Of all the people I’ve seen in this thread having worse lives since electing their president, I think that fat guy is the first one to actually say that Trump backstabbed them, and that the trade war was a stupid idea? And he would STILL loving vote for Trump ‘unless they come up with a better alternative’???
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Minimum Syntaxing posted:Of all the people I’ve seen in this thread having worse lives since electing their president, I think that fat guy is the first one to actually say that Trump backstabbed them, and that the trade war was a stupid idea? And he would STILL loving vote for Trump ‘unless they come up with a better alternative’??? The "voting against their own best interests" thing is levied against the right wing base all the time, primarily the lower class white R voters, but its not actually true. The problem is a gulf between what the left views as R voters "best interests" (primarily material needs, social services, infrastructure, etc) and what these people view as their own "best interest" (primarily emotional needs, specifically the need to have an established hierarchy). Not all, but most of these folks know full well the Republicans serve the donor class, often explicitly to the voter's own detriment, but the voters aren't walking away from the table with nothing at all. They are purchasing white supremacy from the donor class with tax breaks and fat defense contracts. Trump may be loving them over the hardest of any recent Republican, but he's also delivering the most open/blatant white supremacy, so it evens out. They wouldnt take this kind of treatment from Romney.
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Jan 13, 2020 20:44
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One More Fat Nerd posted:The "voting against their own best interests" thing is levied against the right wing base all the time, primarily the lower class white R voters, but its not actually true. They may be getting hosed materially, but as long as they see people of color, women, and LGBTQ people getting hosed even worse they will be happy with Trump. You can't negotiate with these people, you have to ignore them and aim for the people who just don't vote, of which there are more than plenty.
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Jan 13, 2020 22:23
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their moral compass is centered around ensuring that everyone else is doing the right thing because that’s what they believe the Bible tells them to do; so policing everyone else’s lives and morality is their mandate. bonus points here because they think it’s saving people and the world from judgment so they’re just trying to do the right thing and are getting persecuted (when anyone disagrees or pushes back) and on that note: they are ok with (their own) suffering because they’ve been brought up that this life is suffering and the more you suffer the greater your reward in heaven. Ugato has issued a correction as of 09:32 on Jan 14, 2020 |
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Jan 14, 2020 09:27
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The Sunday NYT had a longform piece about despair and rural poverty, centering on the author's hometown of Yamhill, Oregon and following the lives of the members of the Knapp familyquote:Of the five Knapp kids who had once been so cheery, Farlan died of liver failure from drink and drugs, Zealan burned to death in a house fire while passed out drunk, Rogena died from hepatitis linked to drug use and Nathan blew himself up cooking meth. Keylan survived partly because he spent 13 years in a state penitentiary. quote:….Even in this presidential campaign, the unraveling of working-class communities receives little attention. There is talk about the middle class, but very little about the working class; we discuss college access but not the one in seven children who don’t graduate from high school. America is like a boat that is half-capsized, but those partying above water seem oblivious. Article is: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/09/opinion/sunday/deaths-despair-poverty.html Yamhill County went for Trump 48-40 (12 points went to Johnson/Stein/Other): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_United_States_presidential_election_in_Oregon
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Are we gonna do the opposite of this thread when President Bernie is elected and makes these yokels' lives materially better and they scream and shake their fists because their lives are improving under SoCiAlISm? Just want to make sure there will still be lols.
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Jan 15, 2020 20:05
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Even if Bernie gets elected, Republicans in Congress will stymie most of his efforts to improve these peoples' lives, and (egged on by FoxNews) they'll get angry at him for not fixing all the problems and vote even harder for Republicans in 2022 and 2024.
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Jan 15, 2020 20:10
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Yeah, but think of how much more of their base will be dead in 4 years.
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Jan 15, 2020 20:12
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Halloween Jack posted:Yeah, but think of how much more of their base will be dead in 4 years. Inshallah
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Jan 15, 2020 20:13
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Minimum Syntaxing posted:Of all the people I’ve seen in this thread having worse lives since electing their president, I think that fat guy is the first one to actually say that Trump backstabbed them, and that the trade war was a stupid idea? And he would STILL loving vote for Trump ‘unless they come up with a better alternative’??? sure, they would never vote for a democrat so they dont even bother looking there for solutions
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Jan 15, 2020 20:32
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FMguru posted:Even if Bernie gets elected, Republicans in Congress will stymie most of his efforts to improve these peoples' lives, and (egged on by FoxNews) they'll get angry at him for not fixing all the problems and vote even harder for Republicans in 2022 and 2024. Nah, he can just frame everything as a national emergency and get free reign.
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bag em and tag em posted:Are we gonna do the opposite of this thread when President Bernie is elected and makes these yokels' lives materially better and they scream and shake their fists because their lives are improving under SoCiAlISm? C-SPAM > Post Trump voters realizing that they're going to live their bitter hateful lives under Bernie here
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