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That's not really surprising. The social circles he struggled to be part of for decades also treated him with their lowest regards. The guy's a loving poo poo, and people knew this for years.
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Herstory Begins Now posted:It was always really notable that someone as ambitious and spotlight hungry and completely drawn to anything that could possibly increase his profile as reince bumped into the Trump administration and was spooked so badly that he just completely disappeared from anything to do with trump. Like yeah he was unceremoniously fired, but something spooked him enough that he just quietly disappeared off into the sunset Reince is a grifter extraordinaire. Here in the Great State of Wisconsin, he set up a meeting between the heads of Foxconn and Governor Walker, which Walker would never have gotten a whiff of, otherwise. Guess who got to sell a whole bunch of land based on a suggested factory location? My boy Reince. Now that farmland has been razed, the highways are all built for nothing, and Foxconn has basically gone radio silent on the factory they pinky-swore they would build. edit: Walker, not Ryan. He's another loving grifter, too many to keep straight right now. Dielectric fucked around with this message at 18:04 on Apr 18, 2019 |
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DaveWoo posted:https://twitter.com/brianefallon/status/1118918478088556544 Gotta protect those purple state Dems! 
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Mind_Taker posted:Their strategy of framing the narrative just horribly backfired. The report is honestly juicier than I thought it would be so far, and that's with a ton of redactions still. Pages ago but I don't agree at all. They successfully framed it for their base who will now stick their fingers in their ears and yell "NANANANANANANA". The framing wasn't for us, it was for the chuds. They were never going to be able to frame it in any kind of positive or neutral light for the left or really even moderates, they just needed to get the party line out to the base before the report dropped.
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SocketWrench posted:That's not really surprising. The social circles he struggled to be part of for decades also treated him with their lowest regards. The guy's a loving poo poo, and people knew this for years. My favorite example of this was him crashing a kids with AIDS charity event quote:In the fall of 1996, a charity called the Association to Benefit Children held a ribbon-cutting in Manhattan for a new nursery school serving children with AIDS. The bold-faced names took seats up front.
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BigBallChunkyTime posted:Not willing to look myself because I value my brain cells and don't want to kill them (unless it's with delicious, delicious alcohol): What is Fox News saying about the report? Quick glance "It doesn't actually say in exact words "Trump bad, must impeach" so it really doesn't say anything bad"
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Apr 18, 2019 18:02
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SocketWrench posted:Quick glance Even if it had they would have still said the same thing.
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Astro7x posted:Found a bombshell in here, always read the footnotes! Sweeeeet glad SA forums got a mention
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TulliusCicero posted:Man too dumb to understand he is possibly the most dumb man alive Only the best genes....so best it's like royalty.....inbred for centuries
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This seems bad https://twitter.com/RepKatieHill/status/1097906957216825344
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Apr 18, 2019 18:06
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DaveWoo posted:https://twitter.com/brianefallon/status/1118918478088556544 This is the correct strategy for now, the next move is to get Muller to testify publicly and reverse the spin on the report.
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So the Dems aren't going to do an impeachment, because they don't think they can get to 67 in the Senate. But can we assume that there's enough here for the House judiciary and Intel committees to have big, juicy, public hearings about all the crimes for the next 18 months to derail the campaign for 2020?
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Apr 18, 2019 18:07
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Cabbit posted:Why does anyone defend this guy again? "He says things that agree with my fantasy world view"
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It's now a matter of public record that Trump and his campaign were in bed with Russia--money, Trump towers, and hacking in exchange for polling data and giving Kremlin foreign policy a free hand. Among many other things. Mueller's strategy from the start seems to have been to really strongly suggest impeachment proceedings or ripping Trump apart as soon as he leaves office in the report, while holding fast to established precedent that the presidency is a four-year appointment to a kingship. That Mueller punts on his conclusion is absolutely wild.
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Apr 18, 2019 18:08
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I can't believe that the fact that Trump ordered officials to do illegal actions isn't enough to get him charged. Who gives a gently caress if his cronies didn't follow the order! He made the order expecting it to be followed, you don't get off of ordering a hit because the hitman decided not to do it.
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Hopefully the real takeaway from this is that "sending messages" like this doesn't loving work anymore. The people combing through this report for bombshells don't need to be convinced, and will never convince the people that are actively looking for someone to tell them the results they want to hear, regardless of reality. Reports like this need to end with a single page of HE loving OBSTRUCTED EVERYTHING scrawled in red sharpie, and everyone reporting on it needs to be screaming HE loving OBSTRUCTED EVERYTHING if they want to serve the public interest, and I have no idea how many years of  slowly eroding that's going to take people to see.
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Swish. Catalyst-proof posted:Most obvious thought: well of course they’re selling nuclear weapons to someone, probably the Saudis.
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Wylie posted:So the Dems aren't going to do an impeachment, because they don't think they can get to 67 in the Senate. We don't know what they're planning because they haven't had time to fully digest the report and take first steps after that. It's a mistake for people to read that as a refusal to do anything.
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Monaghan posted:I can't believe that the fact that Trump ordered officials to do illegal actions isn't enough to get him charged. Who gives a gently caress if his cronies didn't follow the order! He made the order expecting it to be followed, you don't get off of ordering a hit because the hitman decided not to do it. Yeah this is where I'm at. What difference does their insubordination make to his liability?
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Catalyst-proof posted:Swish.  This is REALLY REALLY BADEDIT: From a nonproliferation standpoint, this is one of the worse things that can happen. THe Saudis having nukes is almost guaranteeing a nuclear exchange in the middle east, and Iran is going to freak the gently caress out.
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AhhYes posted:Yeah this is where I'm at. What difference does their insubordination make to his liability? Nothing, the reason he isn't being charged is because its DOJ policy that sitting president cannot be indicted.
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No Safe Word posted:https://twitter.com/TrumpDraws/status/1118916873435750400 I dunno what's funnier, watching them all applaud him showing off the report like humoring a toddler for being dumb, or them all applaud him for showing off some presidential order like humoring a toddler for being dumb
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happyhippy posted:Me thinks the US's place on the corruption index will spike up a few places soon. the corruption index is a bullshit racialized justification of imperialism https://soundcloud.com/citationsneeded/episode-73-western-medias-narrow-colonial-definition-of-corruption
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Does Mueller have the self awareness to understand how stupid it sounds for him to say it's impossible for him to establish if Trump/his cronies obstructed because his cronies obstructed so much?
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Neo Rasa posted:Does Mueller have the self awareness to understand how stupid it sounds for him to say it's impossible for him to establish if Trump/his cronies obstructed because his cronies obstructed so much? Ahh, but you see obstruction requires intent to obstruct. Maybe they were just lying, destroying evidence, and stonewalling because they're just angry dicks.
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fishing with the fam posted:Ahh, but you see obstruction requires intent to obstruct. Maybe they were just lying, destroying evidence, and stonewalling because they're just angry dicks. Funny enough destruction of evidence forms a presumption of guilt
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1337JiveTurkey posted:We don't know what they're planning because they haven't had time to fully digest the report and take first steps after that. It's a mistake for people to read that as a refusal to do anything. "Look, they've had whole minutes to read these hundreds of images! They're clearly capitulating again and are a waste! Have I told you what I think about things mattering in the last five minutes?!" - 
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Heck Yes! Loam! posted:
Just Pompeo and company doing their part to kickstart Armageddon so Jesus can come back and take them to white heaven.
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kidkissinger posted:the corruption index is a bullshit racialized justification of imperialism yeah if you ever check the list both the united states and saudi arabia are far too high on the list (as in they're far more corrupt than the list would have you believe).
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RandomBlue posted:Just Pompeo and company doing their part to kickstart Armageddon so Jesus can come back take them to white heaven. Unironically my first thought as well. Pence likely approves. For me this is the scariest thing they have done so far if they are actually doing it (they are)
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Jarmak posted:This is the correct strategy for now, the next move is to get Muller to testify publicly and reverse the spin on the report. The spin for who? The suburbanites who will sell out the rest of the country for a dollar off their mortgage payment? For the billionaires who believe the only real crimes are ones against their own personal property? Or the down-to-earth rural Americans who believe Nancy Pelosi is an immortal lizard person? Who are we persuading again?
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Heck Yes! Loam! posted:
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Wilhelm posted:Who would the Saudis exchange with? Their hatred of Israel is mostly a show Iran
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Pellisworth posted:The glossary might be really interesting, since it lists names alphabetically and some are redacted for Harm to Ongoing Matter Depends. What's the DOJ's style guide for where in an alphabetical list letters with umlauts fall?
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Wilhelm posted:Who would the Saudis exchange with? Their hatred of Israel is mostly a show They will nuke Iran. If Iran has anything close to a nuclear bomb they will use it as well. Then Isreal will use theirs... etc etc etc. SA is NOT responsible enough to not use nukes.
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Munkeymon posted:"Look, they've had whole minutes to read these hundreds of images! They're clearly capitulating again and are a waste! Have I told you what I think about things mattering in the last five minutes?!" - Also at the same time they're absolutely obsessed with this report and view it as the solution to all their problems now and forever.
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