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Sounds like the parents had no idea what they were dealing with. But maybe the fault lies more with the healthcare system for not figuring things out despite the guy being paraded in front of a bunch of professionals. I don’t think the parents should be expected to suffer that kind of burden indefinitely though.
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AITA for taking away my son's electronics for his online activity?quote:Let me begin with some background.
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I can't accept the goon consensus that depression is a terminal disease that can only be treated by a third party carer, nor that its a parent's job to be that person for their adult son for the rest of their lives.
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Jun 18, 2019 18:14
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Sagebrush posted:i don't understand this post without references to your honkin' doad and cheerful gay adventures Sorry. This reminds me of me and my husband's son from my previous marriage. He was quite listless after graduating from highschool. Didn't show interest in college or trades, he couldn't even enjoy the gay pornography we used to watch every weekend. I knew something was wrong. He was severely depressed. That's when he dropped the bomb on us and came out to us as straight. I wish I had been a better father and said, "So what?" But me and my husband just went silent. That night we decided to drop him off at the local playground. We just couldn't support his lifestyle. As I was driving back I realized it wasn't my son's fault he was straight. The media is saturated with depictions of unhealthy heterosexual relationships (see every sitcom ever) that make it look like a normal lifestyle. So after a few minutes I turned around. Luckily my son didn't realize what happened and was still there, playing on the swing. He's gainfully employed as a GoGo Dancer and currently receiving treatment through gay conversion therapy. After our initial shock me and my husband realized that what he needed was support, not abandonment. Great advances have been made in the fields of medicine and therapy. Just like HIV, heterosexuality is more of a treatable lifelong condition than a death sentence.
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cumshitter posted:Just like HIV, heterosexuality is more of a treatable lifelong condition than a death sentence. this I can accept tho.
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Jun 18, 2019 18:18
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as someone who has struggles with depression and has been homeless, caregivers didnt do poo poo for me until i made an active effort for myself rather than just wallow in it forever. i can understand this is just my experience here and some folks are different, while i think being kicked out sucks from the parents, if kid is just going to occupy space and consume resources without the slightest contribution id at least banish you from the house to another place
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Jun 18, 2019 18:19
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FiftySeven posted:How much support are you supposed to give people like this before they start to drag you down with them? I know more than a few people who fit this mold and the truth is that on my days off, I see them logged on to World of Warcraft or they are playing smite or whatever. It just seems like the absolute minimum effort would be to go get a lovely retail job or something, anything to pay the bills. I feel bad for their parents but the truth is that sometimes the social security net is helping too much financially, and it can take months before you can see a therapist in the UK. Depression is absolutely a disease but it is one where unfortunately, the first step has to be taken for any hope of recovery. No one recovers from depression by being enabled to wallow at home. I don't think it's a question of how much so much as like, is the support you're giving encouraging them to get better or to just stay in a rut forever. This guy's parents recognized that he was kind of shiftless and unmotivated and decided the best way to treat that was to subsidize him to never leave his goddamn bedroom and then kick him out on the street after they'd made sure that had terminally curdled his brain, as it would anyone's after three drat years. The physical health analogy would be treating someone's broken leg by paying for as many unsanitary casts that bent it in a wacky spiral shape as it took for them to be able to run again. A Wizard of Goatse fucked around with this message at 18:24 on Jun 18, 2019 |
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Jun 18, 2019 18:21
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Motherfucker posted:I can't accept the goon consensus that depression is a terminal disease that can only be treated by a third party carer, nor that its a parent's job to be that person for their adult son for the rest of their lives. Same but for reference "goon consensus" and "this thread's consensus" are pretty different. Frankly this thread is full of wackos even by goon standards.
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For everyone talking about how unfair this is to the son with no diagnosed illness that prevents gainful employment and who still finds the motivation to play videogames all day, how fair is it to the parents that they're expected to financially support a 25 year old indefinitely and delay their own retirement in order to do it? At what point is blaming your parents for your problems and demanding solutions from them no longer acceptable? The best thing that could happen to this kid is to get dropped off at a day center, get assigned a caseworker to start getting him real help, and he'll figure out really quick if he is truly incapable of motivation after experiencing the inconveniences and indignities of shelter life.
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plus I don't think they really had any intention of abandoning him till he loving dropped off the face of the earth.A Wizard of Goatse posted:I don't think it's a question of how much so much as like, is the support you're giving encouraging them to get better or to just stay in a rut forever. This guy's parents recognized that he was kind of shiftless and unmotivated and decided the best way to treat that was to subsidize him to never leave his goddamn bedroom and then kick him out on the street after they'd made sure that had terminally curdled his brain, as it would anyone's after three drat years. The physical health analogy would be treating someone's broken leg by paying for as many unsanitary casts that bent it in a wacky spiral shape as it took for them to be able to run again. There's probably some merit to this but I don't think they have 'caring for your goon' courses.
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Jun 18, 2019 18:25
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Motherfucker posted:There's probably some merit to this but I don't think they have 'caring for your goon' courses. aimless 20somethings who think work is less fun than gaming are way more common than the other kind and yet most parents manage to figure out a better approach than turning them into bipedal veal calves and dropping them off at the homeless shelter like chum for the methheads
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My cousin was a star athlete in school and never paid a dime he earned for anything in his life. He is 36 now and has been living with his parents for the last 15 years or so and has never had a full time job. He apparently quit trying to get any work. Now I only hear from him when he asks if I can fix the lousy internet at his house because the PSN keeps crashing. I'm sure he's depressed as nobody could be happy being a failure, but what can anyone besides his parents do? He's also very capable of working. He could've been a major success had he put forth the slightest bit of effort.
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Turn your failson into a haleson with these 12 weird tips! Tip one: hire a retard masturbator
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you cant advertise for yourself on the forums outside sa mart jeez
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A Wizard of Goatse posted:I don't think it's a question of how much so much as like, is the support you're giving encouraging them to get better or to just stay in a rut forever. This guy's parents recognized that he was kind of shiftless and unmotivated and decided the best way to treat that was to subsidize him to never leave his goddamn bedroom and then kick him out on the street after they'd made sure that had terminally curdled his brain, as it would anyone's after three drat years. The physical health analogy would be treating someone's broken leg by paying for as many unsanitary casts that bent it in a wacky spiral shape as it took for them to be able to run again. The OP said that his son had seen multiple psychiatrists and had been on meds, and while I understand that it can take time to find the right "combo" that works for people, its not like they were not giving him any constructive support. 3 Years is a long time, and the vast majority of people just have no idea how to help people with these issues. Hell, if its so difficult for doctors to diagnose and treat, then how much can you truly expect of people who are not in any way trained to deal with this stuff? Also, if you have been kicked out and you cant loving bring yourself to even find your way home to beg for another chance, then what help can anyone possibly give you at that point? FiftySeven fucked around with this message at 18:36 on Jun 18, 2019 |
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sneakyfrog posted:you cant advertise for yourself on the forums outside sa mart jeez I take my work home with me sometimes. FiftySeven posted:The OP said that he had seen multiple psychiatrists and had been on meds, and while I understand that it can take time to find the right "combo" that works for people, its not like they were not giving him any constructive support. 3 Years is a long time, and the vast majority of people just have no idea how to help people with these issues. Hell, if its so difficult for doctors to diagnose and treat, then how much can you truly expect of people who are not in any way trained to deal with this stuff? Also, if you have been kicked out and you cant loving bring yourself to even find your way home to beg for another chance, then what help can anyone possibly give you at that point? A strange game, the only winning move is to 
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Jun 18, 2019 18:34
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thats kidnapping
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Guildencrantz posted:Thank gently caress for that. It was the only thing I've ever read that made me physically gag and the fact that it was fiction makes the world a brighter place. It's copypasta, it's been posted a few times this year. You can hold on to hope that it was non-fiction at some point.
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DemoneeHo posted:AITA for taking away my son's electronics for his online activity? Getting your kid away from an incel board: Excellent parenting.
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Bugs aren't bad if prepared as food. Picking up a live bug and chowing down is nasty though.
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I went to the comments and the bootstrap dad explained how his son lost his job at the deli counter He just couldn't cut the mustard
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imo the rear end in a top hat-ness has nothing to do with the son's condition but how OP went about kicking them out. it's one thing to say "you have until X date to find a new living situation" and then give them the boot if that day comes with no progress. waking up one morning and deciding you want them gone that day, however, is not cool no matter how lovely of a person the bootee is.
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Pinecone Sample posted:I went to the comments and the bootstrap dad explained how his son lost his job at the deli counter booooo
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Leon Einstein posted:Bugs aren't bad if prepared as food. Picking up a live bug and chowing down is nasty though. Also a good way to get parasites like tapeworms. Don't eat random wild animals raw, kids.
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FiftySeven posted:The OP said that his son had seen multiple psychiatrists and had been on meds, and while I understand that it can take time to find the right "combo" that works for people, its not like they were not giving him any constructive support. 3 Years is a long time, and the vast majority of people just have no idea how to help people with these issues. Hell, if its so difficult for doctors to diagnose and treat, then how much can you truly expect of people who are not in any way trained to deal with this stuff? Also, if you have been kicked out and you cant loving bring yourself to even find your way home to beg for another chance, then what help can anyone possibly give you at that point? you can expect them to make the kid get the hell out of the house and do something, at some point before they drop him off at the pound with no means of helping himself. Send him to the community college or on camping trips, have him volunteer at the shelter or the fire station, make him join the army or sell him to carnies; he doesn't have to get a job but he can't spend that time on the computer. One of the most common things with depression is that people lose all self-motivation to go out and do things/seek new experiences/talk to people beyond the bare minimum they absolutely have to, and spending long periods lying around doing nothing and experiencing nothing and having no substantive human contact is the best way possible to become more depressed. Leon Einstein posted:Bugs aren't bad if prepared as food. Picking up a live bug and chowing down is nasty though. can we extend the bug eating mod challenge to ITT A Wizard of Goatse fucked around with this message at 18:49 on Jun 18, 2019 |
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Piell posted:Also a good way to get parasites. Don't eat random wild animals raw, kids. can I boof 'em?
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Piell posted:Also a good way to get parasites. Don't eat random wild animals raw, kids. bugs ARE the parasites stupid
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Motherfucker posted:can I boof 'em? Anything is possible if you believe
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DemoneeHo posted:AITA for taking away my son's electronics for his online activity? Imagine being such a milquetoast that you worry keeping your kid from brainwashing and racism is going too far as a parent.
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Motherfucker posted:can I boof 'em? That's just an express ride for the tapeworms
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Sagebrush posted:bugs ARE the parasites stupid Well why do you think he was eating the spider
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Resting Lich Face posted:Imagine being such a milquetoast that you worry keeping your kid from brainwashing and racism is going too far as a parent. welcome to the Democratic party
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this is a white guy though
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Piell posted:Also a good way to get parasites like tapeworms. Don't eat random wild animals raw, kids. But how else can I reliably contract a parasite generally found only in rats?!
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do you work in a finance office? just lick someone
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the most fun part of bugs is chasin' em
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Motherfucker posted:the most fun part of bugs is chasin' em
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FiftySeven posted:The OP said that his son had seen multiple psychiatrists and had been on meds, and while I understand that it can take time to find the right "combo" that works for people, its not like they were not giving him any constructive support. 3 Years is a long time, and the vast majority of people just have no idea how to help people with these issues. Hell, if its so difficult for doctors to diagnose and treat, then how much can you truly expect of people who are not in any way trained to deal with this stuff? Also, if you have been kicked out and you cant loving bring yourself to even find your way home to beg for another chance, then what help can anyone possibly give you at that point? there's a decent chance this dude will be severely injured or die, so good luck to the parents dealing with that guilt. you don't really want to play bad life decisions chicken with people who have serious untreated mental problems. if they find the kid dead in the woods i bet dad would pretty quickly recalculate the cost of having a basement son
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luxury handset posted:if they find the kid dead in the woods i bet dad would pretty quickly rationalize this as being someone else's fault
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so what's the board for mixed race teens who hate their white dads asking for a friend obviously
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