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Crossposting from GBS thread: https://www.theglobeandmail.com/wor...eign-influence/ quote:China’s new moral guide elevates Xi over Mao, urges national pride over foreign influence
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# ? Oct 29, 2019 18:27 |
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# ? May 26, 2024 03:35 |
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Makes sense, Mao was only 70% good but Xi Jinping is the full package.
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# ? Oct 29, 2019 21:30 |
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Until you get your mug on the money you are nothing.
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# ? Oct 29, 2019 21:45 |
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Someone a few pages back described the PRC as a national socialist regime, and considering this growing cult of personality and the Uyghur genocide, I'm willing to believe they're straight up Strasserites, if not worse history doesn't repeat, but it does rhyme, and all that
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# ? Oct 29, 2019 23:54 |
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National Socialism with Chinese Characteristics is my new catchphrase. I'm trademarking it right now.
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# ? Oct 30, 2019 00:42 |
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You know, I'd normally describe myself as someone who typically doesn't let news events and such get to me, but the developments in China and particularly the revelations about the Uyghur camps are kind of just making me real sad.
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# ? Oct 30, 2019 08:34 |
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Randarkman posted:You know, I'd normally describe myself as someone who typically doesn't let news events and such get to me, but the developments in China and particularly the revelations about the Uyghur camps are kind of just making me real sad. don't worry, one of the greatest, most well-educated and most notable philanthropists of our time, LeBron James, was correct when he tells you that maybe you are just "misinformed" about Hong Kong. maybe you should just do some more research and then you can arrive at the "correct" conclusion!
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# ? Oct 30, 2019 08:46 |
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bring back noted China scholar and not at all batshit insane mod R. Guyovich
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# ? Oct 30, 2019 09:35 |
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The Great Autismo! posted:bring back noted China scholar and not at all batshit insane mod R. Guyovich Please don't. It looks like Mitsubishi has withdrawn sponsorship from Blizzard esports events. Not very surprising.
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# ? Oct 30, 2019 11:01 |
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The Great Autismo! posted:bring back noted China scholar and not at all batshit insane mod R. Guyovich Hell, forbidden lesbian can fill in at a pinch.
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# ? Oct 30, 2019 11:09 |
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Hungarian Minister Opens Door to Huawei for 5G Network Rollout quote:Hungary has said however it had no evidence that Huawei equipment would pose a security threat and Foreign Minister Peter Szijjarto announced at an event in China on Tuesday that Hungary would involve Huawei in the 5G rollout. Looks like the American attempt to kneecap Huawei is a dismal failure outside of the 5 eyes.
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# ? Nov 7, 2019 07:19 |
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Wow Viktor Orban associating with an authoritarian fascistic regime and seeking to acquire their tools that's so out of character for Fidesz
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# ? Nov 7, 2019 10:29 |
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Bloodnose posted:Wow Viktor Orban associating with an authoritarian fascistic regime and seeking to acquire their tools that's so out of character for Fidesz Are South Korea, Switzerland, and the UK authoritarian fascistic regimes for using Huawei 5G???
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# ? Nov 8, 2019 01:45 |
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If China was, would they be?
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# ? Nov 8, 2019 02:31 |
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Kinda weird to claim the Tories don't at minimum want to be an authoritarian fascist regime.
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# ? Nov 8, 2019 02:31 |
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CAPS LOCK BROKEN posted:Are South Korea, Switzerland, and the UK authoritarian fascistic regimes for using Huawei 5G??? you heard it from CLB first: South Korea, Switzerland, and the UK are not and do not desire to be surveillance states
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# ? Nov 8, 2019 02:33 |
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In any case, the UK postponed the Huawei implementation anyways
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# ? Nov 8, 2019 02:35 |
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CAPS LOCK BROKEN posted:Are South Korea, Switzerland, and the UK authoritarian fascistic regimes for using Huawei 5G??? quote:Huawei’s overall share in the U.S. telecoms market has so far been negligible, but many rural carriers have long depended on its high-performing, cost-saving hardware. That might soon end as the U.S. pressures small-town network operators to quit buying from Huawei, Reuters reported this week. My friend who worked in cyber security pointed out to me 10 years ago that all the chinese hardware would come with a backdoor, and that loads of companies were using their devices to save money. That there are lots of rural phone companies in the US full of chinese backdoors is a nice thought I suppose................
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# ? Nov 8, 2019 02:44 |
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Do you want American flavored backdoors, or Chinese flavored backdoors? What do you mean you don't want any!?
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# ? Nov 8, 2019 02:46 |
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These are the countries that US's cockblock Huawei campaign managed to convince: Australia New Zealand Japan Taiwan (not a country but I throw it in as a freebie)
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# ? Nov 8, 2019 02:56 |
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BrokenGameboy posted:Do you want American flavored backdoors, or Chinese flavored backdoors? What do you mean you don't want any!? Actually US doesn't make any 5G equipment. You have to choose from Huawei, Nokia and Ericsson. All three make their gears in China.
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# ? Nov 8, 2019 02:58 |
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Yes, but the US has been known to backdoor stuff like Cisco products. But yes, 5g is limited right now.
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# ? Nov 8, 2019 03:02 |
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BrokenGameboy posted:Do you want American flavored backdoors, or Chinese flavored backdoors? Indeed, that was the ultimate takeaway of that particular discussion.
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# ? Nov 8, 2019 03:05 |
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whatever7 posted:These are the countries that US's cockblock Huawei campaign managed to convince: Please, no CCP propaganda.
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# ? Nov 8, 2019 13:21 |
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I threw it in as a freebie because Taiwan's motivation had nothing to do with US's campaign.
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# ? Nov 8, 2019 13:32 |
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whatever7 posted:I threw it in as a freebie because Taiwan's motivation had nothing to do with US's campaign. Taiwan is, in fact, a country. HTH.
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# ? Nov 8, 2019 15:20 |
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MrNemo posted:Taiwan is, in fact, a country. HTH. Taiwan is in fact not a country, and western propagandists treat it like schrödinger’s China: simultaneously an independent country that doesn’t need the PRC (despite a million taiwan residents living and working there) or the real China in exile from communist usurpation depending on what the geopolitical situation is.
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# ? Nov 8, 2019 16:16 |
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literally no one i've ever seen on the internet has earnestly treated it as the second thing other than as a historical novelty
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# ? Nov 8, 2019 16:19 |
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It's about as much of a country as South Ossetia. I will let you decide if South Ossetia is a country.
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# ? Nov 8, 2019 16:25 |
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China Megathread - South Ossetia Is Left As An Exercise For The Reader
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# ? Nov 8, 2019 16:28 |
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Tweezer Reprise posted:literally no one i've ever seen on the internet has earnestly treated it as the second thing other than as a historical novelty Taiwan is not China, which is why it allows overseas Chinese regardless of place of birth to obtain residency and runs birthright trips for their ethnic Chinese children.
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# ? Nov 8, 2019 16:28 |
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Taiwan has some ridiculous historical claims to territory to which it has no real right. This doesn't make it that different from a lot of countries that claim territory they are unlikely to get, although their quantity is probably pretty way out there. Taiwan has a historical claim to ethnic Chinese people whose ancestors left China before the PRC was formed and doesn't really differentiate too hard. That doesn't make it not a country, it is in fact more of a country than Palestine in a de facto and de jure sense. Or are you one of these fun people who say Palestinians are a fictional people and are basically just Jordanians?
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# ? Nov 8, 2019 18:54 |
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Anyone who has an opinion on whether TW is a country, has already made up their mind. So I don't see any point in actually argue over it. It wasn't my intention to start a sovereignty argument when I mentioned TW, just a knock that I didn't have to include it on the no Huawei list.
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# ? Nov 8, 2019 19:21 |
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As someone who has lived in Taiwan for several years and who travels there every year: I can confirm that it is, in fact, a country. You can argue over what name to call it, but it's absolutely a country.
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# ? Nov 8, 2019 20:17 |
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MrNemo posted:Taiwan has some ridiculous historical claims to territory to which it has no real right. This doesn't make it that different from a lot of countries that claim territory they are unlikely to get, although their quantity is probably pretty way out there. Taiwan has a historical claim to ethnic Chinese people whose ancestors left China before the PRC was formed and doesn't really differentiate too hard. Taiwan is a “country” the same way the “Republic of Vietnam” was a country. If your de facto state’s existence is entirely contingent on larger parties like America using you as a proxy then you lack the legitimacy to call yourself a country.
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# ? Nov 8, 2019 20:56 |
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CAPS LOCK BROKEN posted:Taiwan is a “country” the same way the “Republic of Vietnam” was a country. If your de facto state’s existence is entirely contingent on larger parties like America using you as a proxy then you lack the legitimacy to call yourself a country. Israel isn't a country?
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# ? Nov 8, 2019 21:02 |
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Wouldn't surprise me if he actually thought that.
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# ? Nov 8, 2019 21:59 |
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CAPS LOCK BROKEN posted:Taiwan is a “country” the same way the “Republic of Vietnam” was a country. If your de facto state’s existence is entirely contingent on larger parties like America using you as a proxy then you lack the legitimacy to call yourself a country. I guess Canada isn't a country either then.
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# ? Nov 8, 2019 22:09 |
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Mischievous Mink posted:Israel isn't a country? Israel has a huge army and nuclear weapons. If the US cut Israel off it can hold off its Arab neighbors again in a conventional war. Meanwhile, the RoC armed forces is a paper tiger, if the US doesn’t intervene in a timely manner they are finished, millions of reservists waiting in the mountains or not.
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# ? Nov 8, 2019 22:20 |
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CAPS LOCK BROKEN posted:Israel has a huge army and nuclear weapons. If the US cut Israel off it can hold off its Arab neighbors again in a conventional war. Someone should tell most of continental Europe they aren't real countries then.
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