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euphronius
Feb 18, 2009

Glumwheels posted:

Good grief, what a piece of poo poo. Smash that Humpty Dumpty looking gently caress.

It was always a poo poo thing going to work sick and infecting your co-workers regardless, before COVID. Same with sending your kids to school sick or giving them Tylenol in the morning thinking teachers wouldn’t notice by afternoon.

https://mobile.twitter.com/KathrynDill/status/1488145130670497794?cxt=HHwWhIC9_ZOH-qYpAAAA

Gee wonder why teachers are fleeing and what will happen. No one wants to be forced to work in plaguelands, conservatives are completely loving over the education system to protect their racist, bigoted ideology, parents treat teachers like garbage, and poo poo pay.

they probably aren’t increasing pay because they are ignoring the pension

who knows tho

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JAY ZERO SUM GAME
Oct 18, 2005

Walter.
I know you know how to do this.
Get up.



yes

euphronius
Feb 18, 2009

like if you go works for a Corp in training you have lost job security (this matters to people) and your pension . and union protection and negotiation power on contracts . not to mention working all year without 10 weeks “off”

the actual job of teaching sucks now so it is still a positive change for a lot of people but not everything can be made up for in cash

fits my needs
Jan 1, 2011

Grimey Drawer

ok i actually clicked on the article and saw some more pics, so she chooses to live like that or thats literally her 4 year olds desk :shrug:

CaptainBeefart
Mar 28, 2016



lolll

euphronius
Feb 18, 2009

it’s a lot easier call for teachers who work in private schools and charter school obviously

ikanreed
Sep 25, 2009

I honestly I have no idea who cannibal[SIC] is and I do not know why I should know.

syq dude, just syq!

euphronius posted:

it’s a lot easier call for teachers who work in private schools and charter school obviously

And states where unions are banned

MysteriousStranger
Mar 3, 2016
My "vacation" is a euphemism for war tourism in Ukraine for some "bloody work" to escape my boring techie job and family.

Ask me about my warcrimes.

fits my needs posted:

ok i actually clicked on the article and saw some more pics, so she chooses to live like that or thats literally her 4 year olds desk :shrug:

four year olds desk?

UFOTacoMan
Sep 22, 2005

Thanks easter bunny!
bok bok!

Ruggan
Feb 20, 2007
WHAT THAT SMELL LIKE?!


CPU Abuser posted:

This isn't a philosophy problem at bottom. Acting like it is one, when you're the person facing it, can literally get you killed.

The reason I know that, is because I came within a fraction of a millimeter of an ugly death, twice, by ignoring the nature of this problem.

This isn't a philosophy problem.

It's a tactical problem. The battlefield is information, but the problem is tactical, and requires a tactical response.

It pretty much boils down to what Lacrosse said earlier

My policy for the latter half of my life begins by simply letting the people around me reveal their natures and intentions by processing the information they promulgate as "true".

When they lie to me about a matter of consequence, I don't call them on it. They've just revealed that they're my enemy, and it is not wise to inform an enemy.

If they started out as family, friends, or acquaintances, I just drop them. Immediately, completely, permanently, and without notice or negotiation.

If their relationship to me is more impersonal, an author or a public figure or someone with an organizational connection, I stop taking anything they say at face value, and I avoid them whenever possible and to the maximum extent possible.

Doing these things isn't easy, especially at first. It's very very hard, particularly with family.

But the alternative may not even by physically survivable. And the mental and emotional consequences of getting this wrong go way beyond ugly.

Cutting toxicity out of your life is definitely advisable and makes for a better existence.

That said, how do you determine “truth” for a “matter of consequence”? The way you wrote this it sounds like you are acting as an arbiter of truth which boils down to cutting out people who disagree with your point of view. What makes this different than say, an anti-vaxxer anti-masker that uses this same argument?

IMO it would sound a little less weird if you wrote this in a way that acknowledges you’re cutting people out based on differences in opinion, not truth, on matters that are critically important to you. Unless you’re literally talking intentional deception.

Business Gorillas
Mar 11, 2009

:harambe:



euphronius posted:

like if you go works for a Corp in training you have lost job security (this matters to people) and your pension . and union protection and negotiation power on contracts . not to mention working all year without 10 weeks “off”

the actual job of teaching sucks now so it is still a positive change for a lot of people but not everything can be made up for in cash

Between the CRT lynch mobs the chuds are forming and the brunch squad Opening Biden, the teachers I know are just trying to find a job that doesn't actively want to kill them

Thoguh
Nov 8, 2002

College Slice

His "stuff that used to happen in normal life" is an extremely generous interpretation of what was happening at the very peak of people actually giving a gently caress about COVID. What universe does he live in to pretend that people would regularly call off of work just because they are feeling a little sick? I am a computer toucher with good benefits and access to sick time and in "normal" times I'd still be expected to come in and work a full day if I was able to get through it without collapsing. In fact one of the few things about COVID response that I think is actually going to stick is that now that working from home is a norm I expect that people will still feel obligated to work when sick, but now at least they'll be much more likely to sign in from home instead of bringing it to the office.

Jokerpilled Drudge
Jan 27, 2010

by Pragmatica

Ruggan posted:

IMO it would sound a little less weird if you wrote this in a way that acknowledges you’re cutting people out based on differences in opinion, not truth, on matters that are critically important to you. Unless you’re literally talking intentional deception.

they are talking about idealogy not any kind of objective truth(lmao)

fits my needs
Jan 1, 2011

Grimey Drawer

MysteriousStranger posted:

four year olds desk?

like shes just using her kids desk or whatever

quote:

When a graphic-design job opened at a nearby book distribution company, Ms. Ashworth realized she knew the hiring manager and reached out, landing it last summer. Now, she designs ads and digital guides and works on the company’s website. She gets to work from home three days a week. She has more time with her 4-year-old daughter and got a small raise in the new job, though she says she would have taken a pay cut to do it.

“My happiness was worth more,” she says.

euphronius
Feb 18, 2009

Business Gorillas posted:

Between the CRT lynch mobs the chuds are forming and the brunch squad Opening Biden, the teachers I know are just trying to find a job that doesn't actively want to kill them

yeah exactly

that tweet made it seem like a pay issue when I doubt they are getting paid more in many cases

people are leaving more for the reasons you say - tho no doubt it is also pay I think sometimes

it’s bad that two professions that have historically been for women (nursing and teaching) are just getting poo poo on endlessly

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS

Zeroisanumber posted:

Frankly surprised that California hasn't started to do this already.

Only because Harris is in Washington.

Ruggan
Feb 20, 2007
WHAT THAT SMELL LIKE?!


zegermans posted:

gonna be the DnD poster here and say I'm gonna accept the risk of eyeball covid over wearing a dildo on my head

lol

Animal-Mother
Feb 14, 2012

RABBIT RABBIT
RABBIT RABBIT
The guy who was out with Covid for a week is back. Coughing.

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS

not_superiority posted:

oh awesome. as long as the ratios are the same (posting from work and soapcalc sucks on mobile) that should work just fine.

future reference for when you want to tweak formulas: http://www.soapcalc.net/calc/soapcalcwp.asp

Oh yeah I used soap calc. I think that the recipe should have just put the saponification value in there because it knows I’m using olive oil with no lye discount, but whatever.

The haphazard units that annoyed me were the “make a quart of faux seawater with a tablespoon of this and that and put it in the fridge”.

OR I could just weigh out the sodium bicarbonate and sodium chloride for the batch, same as I do for the sodium hydroxide.

I made some noob mistakes like getting distracted after I added the sodium hydroxide and not stirring it, so it turned to a rock in the bottom of the pot. I set that pot aside and measured out a new solution in a new pot.

My wait time on emulsification may have been marginal. I think it’s O.K., but I should have watched the videos about “what is trace” before whipping up the batch.

Burn Zone
May 22, 2004




sound on

Burn Zone fucked around with this message at 16:41 on Jan 31, 2022

The Oldest Man
Jul 28, 2003


What are we, supposed to wear pants at all times too? loving fascists

Golli
Jan 5, 2013



The "cap pay for private contractors" route is likely to fail due to a number of factors, notably "government interference in the free market"

Monkey's paw time:

Most straightforward way to cap travel nurse pay and screw the agencies would be to draft travel nurses into the USPHS, and have the government charge back the hospitals when they are utilized. They already have government defined rates of pay. A typical O-3 under 2 years not receiving a housing allowance gets ~$90k year outside of signing bonuses, specialist pay etc.

https://www.usphs.gov/salary-and-benefits

The really good (for everyone but the travel nurses) part is that since you are part of a government uniformed services, you can't just hit da bricks.

Bearjew
Apr 18, 2017



Strep Vote
May 5, 2004

أنا أحب حليب الشوكولاتة

Steve Yun posted:

The one the prophecies foretold of

The SecureClick-Hat-erach

Animal-Mother
Feb 14, 2012

RABBIT RABBIT
RABBIT RABBIT
I'm just noticing the hand sanitizer that's still all over the place and lmaoing

Ruggan
Feb 20, 2007
WHAT THAT SMELL LIKE?!


captainbananas posted:

https://twitter.com/denise_dewald/status/1488132244300603399

the letter to Zients can be found in full here:

https://welch.house.gov/sites/welch.house.gov/files/WH Nurse Staffing.pdf

It really is some Statute of Laborers poo poo, with the thin veneer of targeting "staffing agencies" instead of the nurses themselves.

a lot of people hate opportunists unless they themselves are the one benefitting

Harry Potter on Ice
Nov 4, 2006


IF IM NOT BITCHING ABOUT HOW SHITTY MY LIFE IS, REPORT ME FOR MY ACCOUNT HAS BEEN HIJACKED

Oh wowwwww lol

Dren
Jan 5, 2001

Pillbug
Are any of you doing a qualitative fit test with your elastomerics?

I just did one and I got a faint hit of bitrex during the deep breaths portion. Seemed like it might be an exhale valve issue, as the vaporizer was aimed right at the exhale valve. I was using a 3M 7503 which reliably passes seal checks.

I tried a 9210+ and easily passed the test. Then I repeated the deep breaths portion in the 7503 and had no problem. Now I’m rethinking what my goto mask should be. Maybe I’ll switch to the 9210+.

I’ll probably run the test a few more times and see what confidence level I can get.

actionjackson
Jan 12, 2003

MysteriousStranger posted:

A lot of places will pay for a desk such as an uplift desk. Either up to $$$ and then over that is on you (ie if you want the regular sized one with the laminate top they got it, if you want the jumbo one with wood you're paying for that) or just XX% of whatever you get. The same applies to ergonomic chairs so get you a steelcase or herman miller. These are common middle class office job perks. This has become more common during COVID for obvious reasons and also because after COVID it's a one and done expense for work and is cheaper than the office place + staff to clean and maintain it.

In the current bidding wars to retain or acquire talent crap like multi monitor setups, peloton + subscription (or other home gym crap), online courses + tutors for the kids, discounts for food deliver services ranging from grub hub all the way up to bespoke vendors like Williams Sonoma have all been added to it. Childcare discounts, discounts for elder/parental care are now part of stuff as well. And this isn't just for the rich. These are for 75-150k jobs, aka the real starting point of the middle class.

If she really got gobbled up by a company "hungry for talent" she'd have gotten all that. That's not management perks that's secretary and office worker perks.

yes, you can get a herman miller or knoll standing desk for <1k and it doesn't look like it is meant for a toddler, and aerons are always on sale because there's so loving many of them

https://www.knoll.com/product/hipso-height-adjustable-desk-24x45

Greg Legg
Oct 6, 2004

euphronius posted:

like if you go works for a Corp in training you have lost job security (this matters to people) and your pension . and union protection and negotiation power on contracts . not to mention working all year without 10 weeks “off”

the actual job of teaching sucks now so it is still a positive change for a lot of people but not everything can be made up for in cash

I was just thinking how lucky I was not being a new teacher right now. Everyone is working their rear end off.

Thoguh
Nov 8, 2002

College Slice

All of this framing acts like the entire country is an order or two of magnitude higher than what is considered high levels of community transmission. It also acts like there are any mitigation measures that could be rescinded other than some places having poorly enforced masking.

There's nothing to open up! It's all open! There are no mandates to rescind! They are all gone!

Burn Zone
May 22, 2004



Zisky posted:

If anyone is looking for a good air purifier the Coway Airmega 1512-HH or HHS punches way above its weight for its size and price ($200 on Amazon for the one without the IoT bells and whistles). It has a true HEPA filter, an activated charcoal filter for smells and a washable pre-filter, and after about 20 minutes it nabs 60% of airborne particulates in a room up to 360 sqft. It's insanely quiet on the lower settings. The auto mode ramps up the speed based on detected indoor air quality.

Also within half an hour of running it in my apartment my perpetually allergy plagued sinuses cleared up and so far have stayed that way. 10/10 would recommend.

I use one of these in my bedroom. The lower two settings are nearly silent and it works great per this $300 air quality monitor I bought.

A++ highly recommend Coway

Glumwheels
Jan 25, 2003

https://twitter.com/BidenHQ
Masking in Asian societies seems to have no issues along with kids wearing masks.

Thoguh
Nov 8, 2002

College Slice

Jokerpilled Drudge posted:

Also that other poster almost coming to blows over masking behavior... if you want to get into a fight over it, ask yourself this: What's the entire point of wearing a mask? Obstinately, it's to avoid physical harm

So that being the case how the gently caress are you avoiding physical harm by getting into altercations with strangers?

To be fair to the poster it isn't like they were piping red mad about someone not wearing a mask in the grocery store or something, an anti-masker came up to them and started directly insulting them for wearing a mask. I'd be ready to throw hands in that situation too.

Thoguh
Nov 8, 2002

College Slice

CPU Abuser
Oct 3, 2021
Probation
Can't post for 77 days!

Tulip posted:

You'd be surprised by how deep the bench can go. An Shi Rebellion marks basically the halfway point for the Tang and was a far more radical population loss than what we're looking at so far. Most states survived Black Death largely intact though with a 50 year period of insane poo poo like laws that capped the price of labor. The Roman Emperor who saw 20% of his capital die of plague still got to be known as "the Great."

Reduced state capacity is a bland term for a very very lovely experience (like the collapse of the Western Roman Empire is a canonical example) but it generally only cascades slowly.

We're still very far from a "smallpox entering the Americas" type event, which is the sort of plague that truly obliterates governments.

The problem is, we're not looking at a very resilient state.

We're really NOT.

If you haven't already done some reading about the Late Bronze Age Collapse, there's an excellent Cliff Notes version that ran about 4 or 5 years ago as a set of 4 "Extra History" videos on youtube. Less than 40 minutes of time invested will hand you quite a bit of background.

If you want more meat, I can recommend several books, beginning of course with Eric Cline's "1177 B.C.: The Year Civilization Collapsed".

A few salient point about that particular collapse:
  • To this day, nobody knows
    • what the immediate trigger event really was, or
    • what the driving force was, or
    • what the detailed timeline looks like.
    I've read at least half a dozen books that touch on this subject either directly or tangentially, and nobody knows.

  • But nobody really has many doubts about the result: almost every complex society in the Late Bronze Age Eastern Med was wiped out.
    • City sites burned to the ground and then never rebuilt and reoccupied.
    • Ruling elites vanished, most probably becoming fertilizer.
    • Societies wiped off the map so thoroughly that nobody for 3000 years had any idea some of them even existed, until archeologists started working the sites starting in the mid 19th century.
    The only polity that survived was Egypt.

  • And these polities may have looked strongly established on the surface, but if you look deeper, they were houses of cards. Not just one or two significant vulnerabilities to catastrophic change, more like half a dozen or more.
Does that third item remind you of anything?

call_of_qthulhu
Nov 21, 2003


Fun Shoe

was this from tiktok or something bc i want to follow this person for more full face respirator jokes

Harry Potter on Ice
Nov 4, 2006


IF IM NOT BITCHING ABOUT HOW SHITTY MY LIFE IS, REPORT ME FOR MY ACCOUNT HAS BEEN HIJACKED

CPU Abuser posted:

The problem is, we're not looking at a very resilient state.

We're really NOT.

If you haven't already done some reading about the Late Bronze Age Collapse, there's an excellent Cliff Notes version that ran about 4 or 5 years ago as a set of 4 "Extra History" videos on youtube. Less than 40 minutes of time invested will hand you quite a bit of background.

If you want more meat, I can recommend several books, beginning of course with Eric Cline's "1177 B.C.: The Year Civilization Collapsed".

A few salient point about that particular collapse:
  • To this day, nobody knows
    • what the immediate trigger event really was, or
    • what the driving force was, or
    • what the detailed timeline looks like.
    I've read at least half a dozen books that touch on this subject either directly or tangentially, and nobody knows.

  • But nobody really has many doubts about the result: almost every complex society in the Late Bronze Age Eastern Med was wiped out.
    • City sites burned to the ground and then never rebuilt and reoccupied.
    • Ruling elites vanished, most probably becoming fertilizer.
    • Societies wiped off the map so thoroughly that nobody for 3000 years had any idea some of them even existed, until archeologists started working the sites starting in the mid 19th century.
    The only polity that survived was Egypt.

  • And these polities may have looked strongly established on the surface, but if you look deeper, they were houses of cards. Not just one or two significant vulnerabilities to catastrophic change, more like half a dozen or more.
Does that third item remind you of anything?

Cspam went deep into the bronze age collapse a while ago it was a really popular topic for a while

call_of_qthulhu
Nov 21, 2003


Fun Shoe

Platystemon posted:

My wait time on emulsification may have been marginal. I think it’s O.K., but I should have watched the videos about “what is trace” before whipping up the batch.

that was me too. i was juggling my phone and stick blender trying to figure out if what i half remembered from a tutorial was correct lol

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Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS

Harry Potter on Ice posted:

Cspam went deep into the bronze age collapse a while ago it was a really popular topic for a while

Sea people

C people

The parallels could not be clearer.

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