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What is the best flav... you all know what this question is: This poll is closed. |
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| Labour |
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907 | 49.92% |
| Theresa May Team (Conservative) |
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48 | 2.64% |
| Liberal Democrats |
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31 | 1.71% |
| UKIP |
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13 | 0.72% |
| Plaid Cymru |
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25 | 1.38% |
| Green |
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22 | 1.21% |
| Scottish Socialist Party |
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12 | 0.66% |
| Scottish Conservative Party |
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1 | 0.06% |
| Scottish National Party |
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59 | 3.25% |
| Some Kind of Irish Unionist |
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4 | 0.22% |
| Alliance / Irish Nonsectarian |
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3 | 0.17% |
| Some Kind of Irish Nationalist |
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36 | 1.98% |
| Misc. Far Left Trots |
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35 | 1.93% |
| Misc. Far Right Fash |
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8 | 0.44% |
| Monster Raving Loony |
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49 | 2.70% |
| Space Navies Party |
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39 | 2.15% |
| Independent / Single Issue |
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2 | 0.11% |
| Can't Vote |
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188 | 10.35% |
| Won't Vote |
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8 | 0.44% |
| Spoiled Ballot |
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15 | 0.83% |
| Pissflaps |
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312 | 17.17% |
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Don't get my hopes up that the streets might run red with the blood of capitalists and tories.
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jabby posted:Newsnight reports that Grenfell tower could have been totally fitted with sprinkers for £200,000. The cladding cost over £2 million. Thanks Ants posted:I don't believe anybody that works for the Mail couldn't get a job elsewhere for the same cash.
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Jun 15, 2017 22:58
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Guavanaut posted:Fitting sprinklers also probably wouldn't have done much good after they decided to coat the entire outside in flammable plastic. They might have contained or even put out the fire in the flat it started in. It had to have been a sizable fire to ignite the cladding on the outside.
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Jun 15, 2017 22:59
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Prince John posted:I'd disagree with this actually, depending on the outcome of the investigation. If the cladding is legal, which the newspaper articles I've read suggest it is, then blame should be directed at those who made the building regs, not those who followed them. Surely there must be a "bloody obvious" clause to cover unspoken regulations like "don't cover your high-rise building in loving kindling"
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Jun 15, 2017 23:01
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It doesn't matter what the building regs are if the council and fire service don't have the resources to do inspections and the housing concerns of poor people are dismissed out of hand.
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Jun 15, 2017 23:03
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Lt. Danger posted:Surely there must be a "bloody obvious" clause to cover unspoken regulations like "don't cover your high-rise building in loving kindling" Heh, you'd think so, wouldn't you. I was pretty surprised to discover that apparently the US has better regulation than us.
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Jun 15, 2017 23:03
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Lt. Danger posted:Surely there must be a "bloody obvious" clause to cover unspoken regulations like "don't cover your high-rise building in loving kindling" The panels, which are classified as flammable in Germany and banned for buildings taller than 40feet in the US, did conform with UK standards. Which in turn means that the people ultimatly responsible for this disaster are the voters in the UK, who elected the representatives who did not improve the safety standards.
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Jun 15, 2017 23:06
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sexy looking audience on QT tonight. Tory opening of " we want to praise..." and that's it. I hope there are no plants from parties and the Tories get a rollicking. E: oh god its that Harridan from conservative women group jumping through hoops to blame labour. And they are mass density so they deserve to die. Cuntcuntcuntcunt. Trickjaw fucked around with this message at 23:11 on Jun 15, 2017 |
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Jun 15, 2017 23:06
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One of the first people on Question Time is a woman who says we have too much regulation in the construction industry. Because she works in the industry. Of course
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Jun 15, 2017 23:06
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Unless you're making fire lighters or fuel, why the gently caress would you even offer / specify flammable products when non-flammable alternatives exist. I assume the answer is "capitalism".
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Jun 15, 2017 23:06
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GaussianCopula posted:The panels, which are classified as flammable in Germany and banned for buildings taller than 40feet in the US, did conform with UK standards. Which in turn means that the people ultimatly responsible for this disaster are the voters in the UK, who elected the representatives who did not improve the safety standards. gently caress off shithead.
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Jun 15, 2017 23:06
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forkboy84 posted:One of the first people on Question Time is a woman who says we have too much regulation in the construction industry. Because she works in the industry. what the gently caress
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Jun 15, 2017 23:08
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GaussianCopula posted:The panels, which are classified as flammable in Germany and banned for buildings taller than 40feet in the US, did conform with UK standards. Which in turn means that the people ultimatly responsible for this disaster are the voters in the UK, who elected the representatives who did not improve the safety standards. gently caress off, you nazi e: to put more into this, it's the media's fault for making people think that the tories have their best interests at heart, and the tories for bring a bunch of demonic assholes. Choosing representatives once every 5 years does not make you responsible. It's an absurd way to run a society, rousseau was right. Miftan fucked around with this message at 23:11 on Jun 15, 2017 |
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Jun 15, 2017 23:09
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forkboy84 posted:One of the first people on Question Time is a woman who says we have too much regulation in the construction industry. Because she works in the industry. And now the woman from Conservative Women is saying simultaneously that high rise buildings shouldn't exist in London but also that the regulations means there's a housing crisis in London. And that regulations wouldn't have prevented this? Christ
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Jun 15, 2017 23:10
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forkboy84 posted:And now the woman from Conservative Women is saying simultaneously that high rise buildings shouldn't exist in London but also that the regulations means there's a housing crisis in London. And that regulations wouldn't have prevented this? Christ How the gently caress do you say this without an immediate riot?
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Jun 15, 2017 23:11
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Yep, she looked very nervous asking the question and her point wasn't clear. "Yeah alright I know kids are dead but won't someone think of the extra costs for the construction industry?!!?"
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Jun 15, 2017 23:11
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anyone seriously making anti-regulation arguments about fire safety rn should have the poo poo kicked out of them
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Jun 15, 2017 23:12
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forkboy84 posted:And now the woman from Conservative Women is saying simultaneously that high rise buildings shouldn't exist in London but also that the regulations means there's a housing crisis in London. And that regulations wouldn't have prevented this? Christ "Should these poor people have been there in the first place?" I think we know the Conservative answer to that.
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Jun 15, 2017 23:12
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GaussianCopula posted:Which in turn means that the people ultimatly responsible for this disaster are the voters in the UK, who elected the representatives who did not improve the safety standards. after years of work we've finally done it, we've found The Worst Opinion. pack up the forums we're done here
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Jun 15, 2017 23:12
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We can't all choose everything, and too short term just leads to American idiotic perma-electioneering. It's all a bit hosed. Also the Tories have never not been cackling movie villains.Miftan posted:To put more into this, it's the media's fault for making people think that the tories have their best interests at heart, and the tories for bring a bunch of demonic assholes. Choosing representatives once every 5 years does not make you responsible. It's an absurd way to run a society, rousseau was right.
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Jun 15, 2017 23:14
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Spangly A posted:anyone seriously making anti-regulation arguments about fire safety rn should have the poo poo kicked out of them Not necessarily. Set them ahad. I'm going to get angry with this tonight.
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Jun 15, 2017 23:14
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Thanks Ants posted:Unless you're making fire lighters or fuel, why the gently caress would you even offer / specify flammable products when non-flammable alternatives exist. The existence of PU core cladding isn't the issue, the absence of regulations on applying it to large projects is. Also people that deliberately filibuster fire safety debates should be thrown into the Thames.
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Jun 15, 2017 23:15
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GaussianCopula posted:The panels, which are classified as flammable in Germany and banned for buildings taller than 40feet in the US, did conform with UK standards. Which in turn means that the people ultimatly responsible for this disaster are the voters in the UK, who elected the representatives who did not improve the safety standards. loving incredible
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Jun 15, 2017 23:15
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This time last week, I was filled with hope. Now I just want to loving punch every single Tory fuckwit right in the face
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Jun 15, 2017 23:15
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Prince John posted:I'd disagree with this actually, depending on the outcome of the investigation. If the cladding is legal, which the newspaper articles I've read suggest it is, then blame should be directed at those who made the building regs, not those who followed them. at least in the US, "the regulations didn't specifically prohibit us from doing this obviously dangerous thing" doesn't get you as far as you think just because the law doesn't ban you from covering a highrise in gasoline-soaked paper doesn't make it ok to do it
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Jun 15, 2017 23:16
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I have the weirdest crush on Emily Thornberry
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Jun 15, 2017 23:18
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ShaneMacGowansTeeth posted:This time last week, I was filled with hope. Now I just want to loving punch every single Tory fuckwit right in the face I am filled with hope that the Tories are loving screwed come the next election, which won't be too far away at this rate.
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Jun 15, 2017 23:18
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Crap, it seems the audience is more or less Tory. That's the left wing beeb for you. E: bleeding autocorrect. Also, I have always liked Norman Lamb. Trickjaw fucked around with this message at 23:23 on Jun 15, 2017 |
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Jun 15, 2017 23:19
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GaussianCopula posted:The panels, which are classified as flammable in Germany and banned for buildings taller than 40feet in the US, did conform with UK standards. Which in turn means that the people ultimatly responsible for this disaster are the voters in the UK, who elected the representatives who did not improve the safety standards. This seems like a great time to mention that this guy, who we had to throw out our Hearts of Iron group for being a Nazi oval office, refused to play anyone but Nazi Germany gently caress off you Nazi oval office
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Jun 15, 2017 23:20
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Obliterati posted:This seems like a great time to mention that this guy, who we had to throw out our Hearts of Iron group for being a Nazi oval office, refused to play anyone but Nazi Germany lmao
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Jun 15, 2017 23:22
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Obliterati posted:This seems like a great time to mention that this guy, who we had to throw out our Hearts of Iron group for being a Nazi oval office, refused to play anyone but Nazi Germany iron guard romania is now fleshed out in the expansion so he can spread his wings a bit
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Jun 15, 2017 23:22
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ThomasPaine posted:I have the weirdest crush on Emily Thornberry I thought I was the only one!
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Jun 15, 2017 23:24
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Doctor_Fruitbat posted:I am filled with hope that the Tories are loving screwed come the next election, which won't be too far away at this rate. their support in non retiree age groups is dwindling, and there's now two generations who've grown up under their worst excesses, from Thatcher's worst to the age of austerity and they will pass on to their kids what Tory governments are like. I'd like to think that in 10-20 years, they'll be nothing more than a 150-170 seat opposition party at most
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Jun 15, 2017 23:24
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This dude seems like he's making a leadership bid. Yeah, we're really the envy of the world in all that stuff you said. You smug nationalist oval office.
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Jun 15, 2017 23:24
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ShaneMacGowansTeeth posted:This time last week, I was filled with hope. Now I just want to loving punch every single Tory fuckwit right in the face Sounds like determination to me. An excellent complement to hope.
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Jun 15, 2017 23:26
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Guavanaut posted:Also people that deliberately filibuster fire safety debates should be thrown into the Thames. Bit harsh, this. At least give them a flotation device (manufactured to specifications designed to make the production of flotation devices as commercially viable as possible).
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Jun 15, 2017 23:27
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Spangly A posted:anyone seriously making anti-regulation arguments about fire safety rn should have the poo poo kicked out of them Anyone making anti-regulation about ANYTHING involving business or living conditions should be fired off to Somalia.
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Jun 15, 2017 23:28
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kingturnip posted:Bit harsh, this. 
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Jun 15, 2017 23:30
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Zalakwe posted:Honestly nearly cannot watch the news, having a young son doesn't help. My children turned the 6 o'clock news over to BBC 2 because I was sobbing so hard, and sat either side of me holding my hands and talking about what exactly is wrong with that old lady Egghead that makes her so creepy, concluding that she was a prototype of Aughra from The Dark Crystal that had been repurposed as an Egghead. My kids loving rock.
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Could anyone else make sense of that boss eyed flump in a purple t-shirt?
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