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Casimir Radon
Aug 2, 2008


Randalor posted:

Did he express his opinion by yelling at an empty chair?
If you still have any positive feelings towards Eastwood, do yourself a favor and look up Sondra Locke.

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Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


Poor people generally don't vote. The GOP base is economically comfortable suburbanites.

stevewm
May 10, 2005

AkumaHokoru posted:

he wont be. sewage flows downward.

This is what I am afraid of.

Limerick
Oct 23, 2009

:parrot:

canyoneer posted:

the kids are alt right :smith:

Are gen Z actually trending right-wing? The numbers I've seen for this are all over the place. Are gen Z further right than millennials on the same scale that millennials are further left than boomers?

Halloween Jack
Sep 12, 2003
I WILL CUT OFF BOTH OF MY ARMS BEFORE I VOTE FOR ANYONE THAT IS MORE POPULAR THAN BERNIE!!!!!
No, they're not. Right-wing evangelicals are getting increasingly crazy and paranoid because they're shrinking and ever more out of touch with the society around them.

One More Fat Nerd
Apr 13, 2007

Mama’s Lil’ Louie

Nap Ghost

Halloween Jack posted:

No, they're not. Right-wing evangelicals are getting increasingly crazy and paranoid because they're shrinking and ever more out of touch with the society around them.

I thought white gen z (maybe just white male gen z) was actually a bit more trump-friendly than white millenials, its just that gen z is 2% away from being majority minority.

Shipon
Nov 7, 2005

One More Fat Nerd posted:

I thought white gen z (maybe just white male gen z) was actually a bit more trump-friendly than white millenials, its just that gen z is 2% away from being majority minority.

white gen z who are already adults are a bit more trump friendly because they didn't graduate college into a recession

Casimir Radon
Aug 2, 2008


Shipon posted:

white gen z who are already adults are a bit more trump friendly because they didn't graduate college into a recession
That could change real fast.

ikanreed
Sep 25, 2009

I honestly I have no idea who cannibal[SIC] is and I do not know why I should know.

syq dude, just syq!

Shipon posted:

white gen z who are already adults are a bit more trump friendly because they didn't graduate college into a recession

Lol yes they did. 2008 didn't actually end

Shipon
Nov 7, 2005

Casimir Radon posted:

That could change real fast.

oh yeah the economy's going to eat poo poo this year right in time for the general election it's going to be incredible

Freaking Crumbum
Apr 17, 2003

Too fuck to drunk


Shipon posted:

white gen z who are already adults are a bit more trump friendly because they didn't graduate college into a recession

gen z can be adults now? i thought millennials went from mid 1980s to mid 200Xs.

at any rate, i think class is still the determining variable. "didn't graduate into a recession" is only meaningful if you also didn't finish school buried in debt, which is really only going to apply to a very specific subset of graduates

Victory Position
Mar 16, 2004

Antifa Turkeesian posted:

I’ve never seen one before today. Proudly online since 1998.

come to Kenya, we've got lions long form birth certificates

BiggerBoat
Sep 26, 2007

Don't you tell me my business again.

Halloween Jack posted:

No, they're not. Right-wing evangelicals are getting increasingly crazy and paranoid because they're shrinking and ever more out of touch with the society around them.

Despite more representation in government. They were always crazy and paranoid.

Also greedy. Very very greedy.

Also, take hope thread. My son turns 9 this week and he loving hates Trump. And Putin,

A Wizard of Goatse
Dec 14, 2014

the oldest of "Gen Z" are barely old enough to drink so this is an even more useless kind of analysis than the usual generational navel-gazing

Shipon
Nov 7, 2005

BiggerBoat posted:

Despite more representation in government. They were always crazy and paranoid.

Also greedy. Very very greedy.

Also, take hope thread. My son turns 9 this week and he loving hates Trump. And Putin,

oh no your son's caught the russia derangement syndrome

Casimir Radon
Aug 2, 2008


What worries me is that stories about race based bullying being all the rage these days keeps coming up on the news. Yesterday a work friend was writing a letter to a school sports league because he'd been a game over the weekend where students from the rival school had been making monkey noises at their players. That kind of poo poo wouldn't have happened when I was in high school, mind you I went to public school and not some lovely prep school. Pewdiepie's core demographic reaching adulthood concerns me a bit.

Grape
Nov 16, 2017

Happily shilling for China!

Shipon posted:

white gen z who are already adults are a bit more trump friendly because they didn't graduate college into a recession

They only have imminent climate change nightmares, an even greater degree of school shootings, and an economy that "recovered" into low pay garbage land that still rewards investing in degrees with debt hell.

The thread is turning into Boomennials panicking about the kids again. :allears:

A Bakers Cousin
Dec 18, 2003

by vyelkin

Casimir Radon posted:

What worries me is that stories about race based bullying being all the rage these days keeps coming up on the news. Yesterday a work friend was writing a letter to a school sports league because he'd been a game over the weekend where students from the rival school had been making monkey noises at their players. That kind of poo poo wouldn't have happened when I was in high school, mind you I went to public school and not some lovely prep school. Pewdiepie's core demographic reaching adulthood concerns me a bit.

Yes it would have happened whenever you were a kid. If you live in the US.


If you live in the EU no one would understand why that was wrong.

Vim Fuego
Jun 1, 2000


Ultra Carp

Halloween Jack posted:

There once was a Trumper named Trevor
Hepatitis has silenced forever.
But instructions he gave
To inscribe on his grave:
"Socialized medicine? Never!"

Grape
Nov 16, 2017

Happily shilling for China!

Casimir Radon posted:

What worries me is that stories about race based bullying being all the rage these days keeps coming up on the news. Yesterday a work friend was writing a letter to a school sports league because he'd been a game over the weekend where students from the rival school had been making monkey noises at their players. That kind of poo poo wouldn't have happened when I was in high school, mind you I went to public school and not some lovely prep school. Pewdiepie's core demographic reaching adulthood concerns me a bit.

Holy freakin' :corsair:

Casimir Radon
Aug 2, 2008


A Bakers Cousin posted:

Yes it would have happened whenever you were a kid. If you live in the US.


If you live in the EU no one would understand why that was wrong.
I'm not saying there wasn't racism when I went through school. Ironic racism was kind of thing at the time. But being super casual with earnest racism would have gotten you ostracized.

BiggerBoat
Sep 26, 2007

Don't you tell me my business again.

Shipon posted:

oh no your son's caught the russia derangement syndrome

It was a birthday present

Grape
Nov 16, 2017

Happily shilling for China!

Casimir Radon posted:

I'm not saying there wasn't racism when I went through school. Ironic racism was kind of thing at the time. But being super casual with earnest racism would have gotten you ostracized.

And we respected out elders, and washed our socks after every meal. The air smelled sweeter back then.

Grape has issued a correction as of 03:40 on Feb 26, 2020

ElGroucho
Nov 1, 2005

We already - What about sticking our middle fingers up... That was insane
Fun Shoe
The kids are alright

gently caress the boomers, though

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

ElGroucho posted:

The kids are alright

gently caress the boomers, though

Gen Z is better than Gen X and Boomers.

Kennel
May 1, 2008

BAWWW-UNH!
Gen Z is lazy and don't respect their elders.

Doc Hawkins
Jun 15, 2010

Dashing? But I'm not even moving!


Kennel posted:

Gen Z is lazy and don't respect their elders.

those are far from their only good qualities

Halloween Jack
Sep 12, 2003
I WILL CUT OFF BOTH OF MY ARMS BEFORE I VOTE FOR ANYONE THAT IS MORE POPULAR THAN BERNIE!!!!!

A Bakers Cousin posted:

Yes it would have happened whenever you were a kid. If you live in the US.


If you live in the EU no one would understand why that was wrong.
I have heard firsthand accounts from a couple of black people about having people be openly racist to them in public within months of Trump's election.

Zopotantor
Feb 24, 2013

...und ist er drin dann lassen wir ihn niemals wieder raus...

Grape posted:

And we respected out elders, and washed our socks after every meal. The air smeller sweeter back then.

That was the leaded gasoline, duh.

Dixie Cretin Seaman
Jan 22, 2008

all hat and one catte
Hot Rope Guy

Halloween Jack posted:

I have heard firsthand accounts from a couple of black people about having people be openly racist to them in public within months of Trump's election.

i'm trying to find the report right after the election of a black woman in the deep south. the white woman she worked for straight up told her she might as well come live on her property now bc soon she'd own her as a slave

Zeluth
May 12, 2001

by Fluffdaddy
Are they more ignorant than Trump or do they just want to be contrarian to common sense?

Okuteru
Nov 10, 2007

Choose this life you're on your own

Casimir Radon posted:

I'm not saying there wasn't racism when I went through school. Ironic racism was kind of thing at the time. But being super casual with earnest racism would have gotten you ostracized.

Ironic racism is still racism. It's how 4chan turned into Stormfront 2.

Zeluth posted:

Are they more ignorant than Trump or do they just want to be contrarian to common sense?

A lot of them saw Trumps elections as a green light to show their true colors towards minorities.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
A lot of kids turned alt right because the far right was literally the only political group actively recruiting them. Things changed with Bernie.

A Buttery Pastry
Sep 4, 2011

Delicious and Informative!
:3:

Freaking Crumbum posted:

gen z can be adults now? i thought millennials went from mid 1980s to mid 200Xs.
I mean, if you're old enough you just call anyone younger than you a millennial, but I feel having the cutoff in the 90's make a lot more sense in terms of the kind of society people grew up in. Basically, Millennials had their childhood in an era of optimism (End of History, everything's gonna be great from here on out!) while Gen Zīs had theirs in a world where you'd either die to terrorists, school shooters (in the US), or a climate collapse that every supposed authority figure showed they lacked the leadership to address.

Forceholy posted:

A lot of them saw Trumps elections as a green light to show their true colors towards minorities.
The exact same thing happened with Brexit, which was basically a green light to (primarily) English nationalists to start celebrating the imminent ethnic cleansing of Great Britain.

fits my needs
Jan 1, 2011

Grimey Drawer

Dixie Cretin Seaman posted:

i'm trying to find the report right after the election of a black woman in the deep south. the white woman she worked for straight up told her she might as well come live on her property now bc soon she'd own her as a slave

lmao southern hospitality and heritage all rolled into one!

Halloween Jack
Sep 12, 2003
I WILL CUT OFF BOTH OF MY ARMS BEFORE I VOTE FOR ANYONE THAT IS MORE POPULAR THAN BERNIE!!!!!

Zeluth posted:

Are they more ignorant than Trump or do they just want to be contrarian to common sense?
For the hardcore Trump supporters, his campaign took on the character of a crusade.

Conservative voters can't distinguish real shifts in power from fleeting elements of the culture war, so they were never thinking about the nuts and bolts of policy. Instead they imagined that a Trump presidency would inaugurate sweeping revanchist social change to make things like they imagined they were in the 50s. This is why, in the first year of his presidency, you saw insane poo poo like "Protect Barron!" and sincere belief in an imminent coup by antifa super soldiers. They were desperate to recapture that feeling of being part of a movement that was winning and creating social change.

So in that environment, you can understand why a small fraction of people just thought, hey, Trump is president, I can scream the n-word at strangers in public now.

A Wizard of Goatse
Dec 14, 2014

Casimir Radon posted:

I'm not saying there wasn't racism when I went through school. Ironic racism was kind of thing at the time. But being super casual with earnest racism would have gotten you ostracized.

I got news for you about how ironic the pervasive "ironic" ni**er jokes of the 90s and 2000s were

ikanreed
Sep 25, 2009

I honestly I have no idea who cannibal[SIC] is and I do not know why I should know.

syq dude, just syq!
Still think leaded gasoline is why boomers, specifically, suck

Halloween Jack
Sep 12, 2003
I WILL CUT OFF BOTH OF MY ARMS BEFORE I VOTE FOR ANYONE THAT IS MORE POPULAR THAN BERNIE!!!!!
If I was a small child and someone threatened me with the spectre of nuclear annihilation, to the point of making me duck under my desk for nuclear war drills, and then told me that this is because of socialism, I'd probably have a Pavlovian reaction to it too.

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Freaking Crumbum
Apr 17, 2003

Too fuck to drunk


Halloween Jack posted:

If I was a small child and someone threatened me with the spectre of nuclear annihilation, to the point of making me duck under my desk for nuclear war drills, and then told me that this is because of socialism, I'd probably have a Pavlovian reaction to it too.

so you're saying that we just need all of the schools that are currently performing active shooter drills to accompany said drills with a repeating message "THIS IS HAPPENING BECAUSE OF CAPITALISM"

i mean, if they're going to keep traumatizing kids anyway, might as well get some long-term benefits out of it

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