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Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

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moller
Jan 10, 2007

Swan stole my music and framed me!

Stinky Wizzleteats posted:

sure we all know about wood knots that look like vagina and sexy cloud interpretation, but what are some other good forest wanks?

Perhaps following societal upheaval nudie mags will once again be hidden in the woods.

Rated PG-34
Jul 1, 2004




Larry Parrish posted:

Unironically, a remote cabin w/ some flat land for a large garden and maybe a root cellar or something is pretty much the ideal piece of property for any future economic situation. Mostly because living in the forest owns.

i sure hope they recognize my land deed post-doomsday

Agean90
Jun 28, 2008


Larry Parrish posted:

Unironically, a remote cabin w/ some flat land for a large garden and maybe a root cellar or something is pretty much the ideal piece of property for any future economic situation. Mostly because living in the forest owns.

in argintina isolated compounds were all all found abandoned with the owners either missing or dead nearby lol.

cooperation with other is required for survival

cargo cult
Aug 28, 2008

by Reene

Agean90 posted:

in argintina isolated compounds were all all found abandoned with the owners either missing or dead nearby lol.

cooperation with other is required for survival

huh?

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Rated PG-34 posted:

i sure hope they recognize my land deed post-doomsday

Thats why you buy infrared property cameras and an AR-15

anime was right
Jun 27, 2008

death is certain
keep yr cool

H.P. Hovercraft
Jan 12, 2004

one thing a computer can do that most humans can't is be sealed up in a cardboard box and sit in a warehouse
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Stinky Wizzleteats posted:

ughhhhh ive been living in a tent for practice and working on my bowhunting/varmint shooting please crash hard as gently caress economy we'll be square if you do swur to god

When Marvin Liao, a former Yahoo executive who is now a partner at 500 Startups, a venture-capital firm, considered his preparations, he decided that his caches of water and food were not enough. “What if someone comes and takes this?” he asked me. To protect his wife and daughter, he said, “I don’t have guns, but I have a lot of other weaponry. I took classes in archery.”


[reddit ceo] Huffman has been a frequent attendee at Burning Man, the annual, clothing-optional festival in the Nevada desert, where artists mingle with moguls. He fell in love with one of its core principles, “radical self-reliance,” which he takes to mean “happy to help others, but not wanting to require others.” (Among survivalists, or “preppers,” as some call themselves, FEMA, the Federal Emergency Management Agency, stands for “Foolishly Expecting Meaningful Aid.”) Huffman has calculated that, in the event of a disaster, he would seek out some form of community: “Being around other people is a good thing. I also have this somewhat egotistical view that I’m a pretty good leader. I will probably be in charge, or at least not a slave, when push comes to shove.”



from here

Agean90
Jun 28, 2008



Argentina had a huge economic collapse and the rural areas turned into mad max. all the armed compounds hidden out in the middle of nowhere were breached and looted like giant guns n ammo piñatas while the safeist areas were cities

Significant Ant
Jun 14, 2017

by R. Guyovich

anime was right posted:

funniest scenario is china buys twitter once everyone realizes its going to crash and burn and only to avoid their own economic instability

can they ban trump first just for kicks

Significant Ant
Jun 14, 2017

by R. Guyovich
lol our entire graduate education system relies on sweet, sweet rich kid foreign student money from Trump’s travel ban is going to be straw that is going to break that camel’s back

H.P. Hovercraft
Jan 12, 2004

one thing a computer can do that most humans can't is be sealed up in a cardboard box and sit in a warehouse
Slippery Tilde

Agean90 posted:

in argintina isolated compounds were all all found abandoned with the owners either missing or dead nearby lol.

cooperation with other is required for survival

this was also seen in scandinavia after the black death

after ~40-60% casualties the survivors banded together into communities

banditry was short-lived and died out just like the hermits who isolated themselves from the large sustainable groups

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Probably the greatest crime of technology is giving people the idea they don't need a community to farm or whatever

curufinor
Apr 4, 2016

by Smythe

Agean90 posted:

in argintina isolated compounds were all all found abandoned with the owners either missing or dead nearby lol.

cooperation with other is required for survival

is there a book or some papers or some poo poo about this

its extremely my jam

Lawman 0
Aug 17, 2010

Agean90 posted:

in argintina isolated compounds were all all found abandoned with the owners either missing or dead nearby lol.

cooperation with other is required for survival

Where was this?

Agean90
Jun 28, 2008


For a decent intro look up the Wikipedia article on the 1998 Argentine great depression. note the part about worker cooperatives in particular. I'm having trouble finding anything that talks about rural conditions so I'll need to get to my home computer for things that arnt just about economics

Kromlech
Jun 28, 2017

by FactsAreUseless
Earthships: self-sustaining homes for a post-apocalyptic US

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=efI77fzBgvg

Agean90
Jun 28, 2008


Agean90 posted:

For a decent intro look up the Wikipedia article on the 1998 Argentine great depression. note the part about worker cooperatives in particular. I'm having trouble finding anything that talks about rural conditions so I'll need to get to my home computer for things that arnt just about economics

Okay now that i can look through a bit more indepth, the main thing i can find on it are a survivalist blog written by a guy who live in the country at the time it happened (http://ferfal.blogspot.com) good stuff, but you have to dig through to find it. He also wrote a book on it. This is the only source i can find with a bit of googling as all others either refer to him or are focused on currency values over people loving starving.

curufinor
Apr 4, 2016

by Smythe
Doesn't that guy make his money off of survivalist kooks

Agean90
Jun 28, 2008


curufinor posted:

Doesn't that guy make his money off of survivalist kooks

probably, but he's also a survivalist kook so :shrug:

In all seriousness though the only part im taking seriously is the parts where hermits bunker up then get killed because gently caress those guys. As he's the only source i can find i'd treat everything else with a hefty bit of salt, especially since i've already found stuff that contridicts his gold bug tendencies. But alas, the conditions people live in are unimportant compared to imf impact diagrams or whatever.

Lindsey O. Graham
Dec 31, 2016

"We're not generating enough angry white guys to stay in business for the long term."

- The Chief

Agean90 posted:

probably, but he's also a survivalist kook so :shrug:

In all seriousness though the only part im taking seriously is the parts where hermits bunker up then get killed because gently caress those guys. As he's the only source i can find i'd treat everything else with a hefty bit of salt, especially since i've already found stuff that contridicts his gold bug tendencies. But alas, the conditions people live in are unimportant compared to imf impact diagrams or whatever.

your initial point was, people need to cooperate to survive, and imho, just lol at anyone who thinks they can get by without that when, and if the apocalypse comes

you can hole up with your canned, and dehydrated food, and your gallons of water with walls lined with guns, but if a smart enough, and large enough roving band of humans comes by, you are a corpse with stuff, or if you are smart, a member of a brand new community who is intent on forcibly sharing your resources

either way, being one man in a forest with things makes you a patsy in the natural world, and we haven't been living in that for some time

Testicular Torque Wrench
Apr 14, 2016

yeet
i've been involved in "survival" type stuff for a while. part of what we do to train involves being self-sufficient in the woods for any amount of time. i've seen people doing very well food and shelter-wise who tapped out because they couldnt bear being alone. people prefer being part of a starving group instead of being fed and alone. if some poo poo hits the theoretical fan i'm staying in a city.

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
I'd rather be alone jacking it in the woods myself

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
I'll take my marxist shooting club buddies into the woods, where we will paint ourselves with blackberries and descend onto the villagers

Condiv
May 7, 2008

Sorry to undo the effort of paying a domestic abuser $10 to own this poster, but I am going to lose my dang mind if I keep seeing multiple posters who appear to be Baloogan.

With love,
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my favorite part of the survivalist idiocy is the people burying gold for use after the apocalypse.

curufinor
Apr 4, 2016

by Smythe

Condiv posted:

my favorite part of the survivalist idiocy is the people burying gold for use after the apocalypse.

archaeologists poke around at gold caches to gauge amount of war and politico-economic chaos going on
so, since the gold caches are left behind, this is millenia-old idiocy

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer

Condiv posted:

my favorite part of the survivalist idiocy is the people burying gold for use after the apocalypse.

its easy to melt to turn into a weapon to smash someones head in with

crazy cloud
Nov 7, 2012

by Cyrano4747
Lipstick Apathy

anime was right posted:

btw this is a post-fact zone, so feel free to make up your own unique doomsday scenario

all money everywhere at once catches on extremely hot fire inclding the computers at the banks and stock exchanges

nobody knows why it happens just all the sudden all money is gone

holy poo poo people would freak. out. mannn...

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
i will def kill anyone who tries to interfere with me having an outside wank in the woods

Lindsey O. Graham
Dec 31, 2016

"We're not generating enough angry white guys to stay in business for the long term."

- The Chief

Testicular Torque Wrench posted:

i've been involved in "survival" type stuff for a while. part of what we do to train involves being self-sufficient in the woods for any amount of time. i've seen people doing very well food and shelter-wise who tapped out because they couldnt bear being alone. people prefer being part of a starving group instead of being fed and alone. if some poo poo hits the theoretical fan i'm staying in a city.

Kromlech
Jun 28, 2017

by FactsAreUseless
Honestly i'm a lazy quitter and, like most goons, would probably just off myself the moment my fat reserves are consumed.

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

I'm most excited over the thought of the start-up/private equity bubble bursting.

cargo cult
Aug 28, 2008

by Reene

crazy cloud posted:

all money everywhere at once catches on extremely hot fire inclding the computers at the banks and stock exchanges

nobody knows why it happens just all the sudden all money is gone

holy poo poo people would freak. out. mannn...
blow up all the credit card buildings where they store all the debt chits. bing bong

Agean90
Jun 28, 2008


Larry Parrish posted:

I'll take my marxist shooting club buddies into the woods, where we will paint ourselves with blackberries and descend onto the villagers

in trying to get more of my leftist buddies into guns so my "mongolian horde but with socialism" prepping strategy can get underway

Byolante
Mar 23, 2008

by Cyrano4747

Agean90 posted:

in trying to get more of my leftist buddies into guns so my "mongolian horde but with socialism" prepping strategy can get underway

Go the piss pig grandpa route and learn from the pkk

curufinor
Apr 4, 2016

by Smythe

cargo cult posted:

blow up all the credit card buildings where they store all the debt chits. bing bong

no need for something that complicated

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/17/business/dealbook/student-loan-debt-collection.html

OhFunny
Jun 26, 2013

EXTREMELY PISSED AT THE DNC
https://twitter.com/Reuters/status/889505466094637056

Com'on housing market. Hold just a little longer until I can sell.

call to action
Jun 10, 2016

by FactsAreUseless
I bought a house in CO like two years ago and it has gone up in value 49.6% if Redfin is to be believed (Zillow has a much higher estimate that I don't think is accurate). I'd totally cash out and just use the gains to buy a McMansion in Ohio if I didn't like my place so much :(

If we see a housing market crash again, it's not going to look like the last one since it won't be driven (as much) by cheap, completely unaccountable mortgage money being pushed by predatory lenders. With my idiotic brain, I'd imagine the worst markets like SF and Seattle will take a big hit, while just-shouldn't-be cities like Miami and Las Vegas get hit as well, with Austin/Denver/St. Louis coming out, relatively, on top.

call to action fucked around with this message at 17:32 on Jul 24, 2017

C-Euro
Mar 20, 2010

:science:
Soiled Meat

OhFunny posted:

https://twitter.com/Reuters/status/889505466094637056

Com'on housing market. Hold just a little longer until I can sell.

Ignore this guy, pop now so I can buy cheap next spring.

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anime was right
Jun 27, 2008

death is certain
keep yr cool

call to action posted:

I bought a house in CO like two years ago and it has gone up in value 49.6% if Redfin is to be believed (Zillow has a much higher estimate that I don't think is accurate). I'd totally cash out and just use the gains to buy a McMansion in Ohio if I didn't like my place so much :(

If we see a housing market crash again, it's not going to look like the last one since it won't be driven (as much) by cheap, completely unaccountable mortgage money being pushed by predatory lenders. With my idiotic brain, I'd imagine the worst markets like SF and Seattle will take a big hit, while just-shouldn't-be cities like Miami and Las Vegas get hit as well, with Austin/Denver/St. Louis coming out, relatively, on top.

the places with the most newer homes will get hosed (loan amount vastly higher the actual home's price + ppl lose their jobs)

that means the places where people are migrating or being built out will be hit the worst. that means the places with rapidly inflating prices will be hurt most. seattle and austin will be crippled. also any foreign investments will lose a lot of value but those places might be held onto since they're considered investments and not places ppl live for and pay with loans. i actually think "new" cities will be hit the worst such as austin and portland. seattle is kind of a mix.

the last recession killed the west for a reason: most people were building out these brand new cities on the cheap and people who took out loans in whogivesafucksville california now had a shack in the desert.

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