#QAnon: Slacktivism For Fascists

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Prester Jane: Nov 4, 2008; by Hand Knit

power word- Jeb! posted:

It seems plausible to me that Q-Anon started as a lone troll or true believer and then the Russians took over the persona after they saw how useful it was.

Personally I think they saw how effective pizzagate was and decided to run their own version that featured in oracle figure that was under their control.

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Name Change: Oct 9, 2005

BENGHAZI 2 posted:

I'm glad this thread went from let's laugh at people who believe the insane bullshit to actually,

Poke around and you can honeypot all sorts of people.

# ? Mar 30, 2018 09:08

Luigi's Discount Porn Bin: Jul 19, 2000; Oven Wrangler

Prester Jane posted:

So the FBI is accusing an Infowars reporter of being s Russian agent and is compelling him to testify in front of a grand jury, and Q Anon is by pure happenstance reacting to this very news! What a bizarre twist.

1. Not an "infowars reporter." He's guested on the show a few times. Just spitballing here but despite infowars wanting to seem important, probably more relevant to the Mueller probe is the fact that he was involved in the Trump campaign and was once a frontrunner for an ambassadorship.

2. Q hasn't posted anything about this.

# ? Mar 30, 2018 09:23

Toplowtech: Aug 31, 2004

power word- Jeb! posted:

It seems plausible to me that Q-Anon started as a lone troll or true believer and then the Russians took over the persona after they saw how useful it was.

They did not took over jack poo poo, they just amplified his reach by pointing him out to similarly interested people. You do not take over crazy personas, you just boost their signal.

# ? Mar 30, 2018 10:31

Ratoslov: Feb 15, 2012; Now prepare yourselves! You're the guests of honor at the Greatest Kung Fu Cannibal BBQ Ever!

Argas posted:

I can buy what PJ is saying because the common counter argument that anyone could write gibberish reminds me of the old tales that anyone can be a video game writer.

Anyone can be a video game writer, in the sense that there is nothing stopping anyone from writing a game. Loads of people write games all the time. Y'all are looking at Undertale and deciding that it's success means that Toby Fox is actually secretly 20 guys from EA.

# ? Mar 30, 2018 10:53

Relevant Tangent: Nov 18, 2016; Tangentially Relevant

Prester Jane posted:

Before we continue on with this debate I just like to note with wry humor that we are in such a bizarre situation that it would seem that Occam's razor cuts in favor of this being the work of a solitary eccentric genius who is successfully manipulating the worldview of millions of people instead of some sort of political actor with an agenda accomplishing this task.

Occam's Razor would also argue that it's probably just some dude who is Too Online in Mom's basement rather than a geniuses.

# ? Mar 30, 2018 11:21

Cable Guy: Jul 18, 2005; I don't expect any trouble, but we'll be handing these out later...; Slippery Tilde

Prester Jane posted:

...If you are a fan of high-quality schadenfreude that I highly recommend you zip to 7:35 to see a hilariously insecure meltdown that literally starts out with the phrase "If I'm not America nothin is!!!!" I have probably watched on the order of about 1500 hours worth of Alex Jones over the years and I've never once seen him looking this scared. He is on the verge of shiting his pants. This meltdown is a thing of beauty.

Video on that site won't link for me... is it this one on YouTube that features uh...

... is that Roger Stone looking like... I don't know what the gently caress he thinks he is.

(Vid is titled "BREAKING! FBI Detains Infowars Contributor Ted Malloch" - Is that the one you linked?)

# ? Mar 30, 2018 13:00

Luigi's Discount Porn Bin: Jul 19, 2000; Oven Wrangler

Cable Guy posted:

... is that Roger Stone looking like... I don't know what the gently caress he thinks he is.

He looks like somebody found Ed Harris dead on the set of The Truman Show, and decided to just Weekend at Bernie's that poo poo by putting some sunglasses on him and propping him up in front of an Ikea dressing screen.

# ? Mar 30, 2018 13:11

Cable Guy: Jul 18, 2005; I don't expect any trouble, but we'll be handing these out later...; Slippery Tilde

Luigi's Discount Porn Bin posted:

He looks like somebody found Ed Harris dead on the set of The Truman Show, and decided to just Weekend at Bernie's that poo poo by putting some sunglasses on him and propping him up in front of an Ikea dressing screen.

I'd agree with you except he was definitely moving.... Maybe it was AJ's patented InfoWars Tetrodotoxin Zombi Powder�... only $99.95 for ten milligrams, buy now.

No hang on, that turns you INTO a zombie... must've been speed.

Alex Jones' Crack

Cable Guy fucked around with this message at 13:24 on Mar 30, 2018

# ? Mar 30, 2018 13:21

sheep-dodger: Feb 21, 2013

I mean, is there a big difference whether Q is naturally occuring craziness or Russian manufactured? It's receiving (probably) Russian signalboosting either way and destabilising America and radicalising the Maga-chuds is its goal either way, so does it really matter in the end which one it is?

# ? Mar 30, 2018 13:37

Feinne: Oct 9, 2007; When you fall, get right back up again.

Relevant Tangent posted:

Occam's Razor would also argue that it's probably just some dude who is Too Online in Mom's basement rather than a geniuses.

It's definitely harder to do this than just writing insane gibberish, though, because you need to both make insane gibberish but ALSO make that insane gibberish full of fragments that can be broadly interpreted by your followers while also trying your best to encourage them when they think you are right and mitigate any time you went a bit too hard into a prediction and nothing happened that could be interpreted as fulfillment.

# ? Mar 30, 2018 13:46

Cable Guy: Jul 18, 2005; I don't expect any trouble, but we'll be handing these out later...; Slippery Tilde

sheep-dodger posted:

I mean, is there a big difference whether Q is naturally occuring craziness or Russian manufactured? It's receiving (probably) Russian signalboosting either way and destabilising America and radicalising the Maga-chuds is its goal either way, so does it really matter in the end which one it is?

One thing I noticed when fwd'ing through that infowars link I clicked, AJ was talking to some decrepit english gent (looks like he may be a reg) and saying "Well you know Q..." "Uh... yes... and.. [more bs - I'd moved on trying to find AJ's meltdown]"

So Pepe-made-flesh wants to be an important player in the Q saga... I think that might be why he posed Stone in the Ikea store prop as well... added atmosphere.

Cable Guy fucked around with this message at 13:51 on Mar 30, 2018

# ? Mar 30, 2018 13:49

Prester Jane: Nov 4, 2008; by Hand Knit

Luigi's Discount Porn Bin posted:

1. Not an "infowars reporter." He's guested on the show a few times. Just spitballing here but despite infowars wanting to seem important, probably more relevant to the Mueller probe is the fact that he was involved in the Trump campaign and was once a frontrunner for an ambassadorship.

2. Q hasn't posted anything about this.

1.) My mistake. But you can tell this situation absolutely rattled Alex Jones, and it also got him to lie about going to Russia. I think it was his lies about Russia that prompted his ex-wife to post that photo of his Russian travel visa.

2.) And I also misread what Jeremy Corsi was coming on to talk about and for that I apologize.

Cable Guy posted:

Video on that site won't link for me... is it this one on YouTube that features uh...

... is that Roger Stone looking like... I don't know what the gently caress he thinks he is.

(Vid is titled "BREAKING! FBI Detains Infowars Contributor Ted Malloch" - Is that the one you linked?)

Yup, that's the one.

Feinne posted:

It's definitely harder to do this than just writing insane gibberish, though, because you need to both make insane gibberish but ALSO make that insane gibberish full of fragments that can be broadly interpreted by your followers while also trying your best to encourage them when they think you are right and mitigate any time you went a bit too hard into a prediction and nothing happened that could be interpreted as fulfillment.

Exactly. There is actually a great deal more complexity to pulling this off than I think most people are giving it credit for.

sheep-dodger posted:

I mean, is there a big difference whether Q is naturally occuring craziness or Russian manufactured? It's receiving (probably) Russian signalboosting either way and destabilising America and radicalising the Maga-chuds is its goal either way, so does it really matter in the end which one it is?

From my perspective it's a pretty important piece of understanding what's going on with Q Anon. I've never seen a Nostradamus Hustle executed for political reasons before, only financial. I've also never seen a successful Nostradamus Hustle go on this long without the person running things trying to try to draw attention to themselves in some way. Q has maintained his anonymity and his character persona perfectly, which is also something that doesn't tend to happen over this long a period of time with the kinds of individuals who can operate a Nostradamus Hustle.

Ultimately the underlying structure of the belief set and the psychological phenomenon at play would be identical whether Q was a naturally occurring phenomenon or not, it's the rapid spread/reach of Q Anon in conjunction with the fact that you and Hans naired his lineup with Russian propaganda Kohl's, as well as the fact is the major players pushing Q Anon are all Russia compromised that makes it pretty clear that Q Anon is part of a Russian psyop in my opinion.

Prester Jane fucked around with this message at 14:48 on Mar 30, 2018

# ? Mar 30, 2018 14:27

Prester Jane: Nov 4, 2008; by Hand Knit

This is interesting, seems like our boy here is tied into both Nigel farage and Julian Assange as well as Roger Stone.

https://mobile.twitter.com/dcpoll/s...agenumber%3D525

Just LOL at " the FBI seem to know everything about me and my life and warned me that lying to them is a felony". You should probably take their words at face value bub.

This guy has a pretty interesting background, some tidbits from his Wikipedia:

Wikipedia posted:

On 16 November 2016 Malloch was interviewed by Evan Davis on the BBC Newsnight program in connection with the reported likelihood of his being appointed by then US President-Elect Donald Trump to an unspecified role. Malloch stated that he had been extensively consulted by Trump throughout the Presidential election campaign. Bloomberg reported that this position could be the US Ambassador to the European Union, which caused strong reactions in the European Parliament.[15] Malloch first met Trump in the 1980s in Palm Beach, Florida.[16]

On 30 November 2016, Malloch was part of a live panel discussion titled "Trump: An American Tragedy?", part of the British series Intelligence Squared that aims to provoke debate and intelligent discussion.[17][18] At the video-recorded event, Ted Malloch became irked by another panelist's assertion that then President-Elect "Donald Trump lies on Twitter every day." Surprisingly Malloch took the position that former President Barack Obama had lied every day on Twitter. Other panelists and the large audience were aghast at Malloch's statement: "I said we've had a president who's lied every day on Twitter for eight years." Excerpts from the programme reveal Malloch's discernment between truth and falsity. The moderator Jonathan Freedland restated Malloch's position, asking for clarification, "You think Obama's lied every day?" Malloch's answer caused gasps, "Absolutely. I know he's a great favourite in London. [...] He came over here and tried to get people to vote against Brexit." Freedland's position, also repeated by other panelists, was "That's not a lie. I mean, urging people to vote on Brexit one way may be unwise, but it wasn't untrue." Malloch sarcastically asked, "It wasn't untrue?" Shocked yet trying to explain further, Freedland said "He offered an opinion. I don't know how that could be untrue." Recognizing the nonsensical position taken by Malloch, another panelist urged the moderator to "just move on [from this fruitless argument].

.......

In early February 2017, media reported that Malloch was a leading candidate for ambassadorship to the EU, which prompted unusually strong disapproval from EU politicians.[3][20][21][4] Asked why he wanted to become ambassador to the EU in an interview the month before, Malloch told BBC News: "I had in a previous career a diplomatic post where I helped bring down the Soviet Union. So maybe there's another union that needs a little taming."[3][4] Malloch was a vocal supporter of UK withdrawal from the EU and has expressed his view that the euro would collapse.[3][16] On Bloomberg TV Malloch stated that he hoped all EU members would hold referendums on whether to leave the bloc.[22] In an interview with Greek television, Malloch expressed his view that Greece will soon need to leave the euro and asked about the future of the euro in the next decade, remarked that his "sense is that the euro is in a real problem zone, there would be parity with the dollar and there could potentially�given political situations around Europe�even be a euro collapse.

Also there is this quote from a video it was part of called "Davos Group Insider Exposes The Globalist Luciferian Agenda":

quote:

The EU is part of, of course, the globalist Empire, the New World Order. I think many of its origins are in fact quite evil ...

It's basically a German takeover of Europe making Europe into its own puppet state with its crony capitalism and its fake currency of the Euro. ... Luciferianism is a belief system that venerates the essential characteristics that are affixed to Lucifer. That tradition has been informed by Gnosticism by Satanism and it usually refers to Lucifer not as the devil per se but as some kind of liberator, some kind of guardian, some kind of guiding spirit, in fact is the true God as opposed to Jehovah. ... of course we know who Lucifer is and he's seen as one of the morning stars, as a symbol of enlightenment, as a kind of independence, and of true human progress, turning away from God and turning to Lucifer in order to enlighten yourself.
The EU is part of, of course, the globalist Empire, the New World Order. I think many of its origins are in fact quite evil ...

Prester Jane fucked around with this message at 14:58 on Mar 30, 2018

# ? Mar 30, 2018 14:47

Dmitri-9: Nov 30, 2004; There's something really sexy about Scrooge McDuck. I love Uncle Scrooge.

Prester Jane posted:

What a totally insane and completely irrational conspiracy I've been proposing here...oh wait:

https://mobile.twitter.com/willsomm...r%3D523%23pti13

So the FBI is accusing an Infowars reporter of being s Russian agent and is compelling him to testify in front of a grand jury, and Q Anon is by pure happenstance reacting to this very news! What a bizarre twist.

Look guys, the kinds of people who can pull off this kind of manipulation are actually pretty goddamn rare (the comparison of everyone thinking they can be a video game writer is very appropriate here), and they operate in very specific ways. If you know what you're looking for it is0 pretty easy to spot when they are colluding with each other instead of operating independently.

Basically all of the posters who have disagreed with me have done so in good faith and some have put forth some pretty good arguments, but collectively you are missing the forest for the trees. You have been focused on how Q Anon could have come about naturally instead of noting the clear collusion between the narratives being put out between Q Anon, Alex Jones, the Russian botnet, and Russian propaganda outlets. It's the uniformity of the narratives they are all pushing that is a dead giveaway.

You can't just theorycraft, eventually you have to put up some actual evidence to support your ideas. You just posted a conspiracy theorist "decoding" a Qanon post as proof for a whole bunch of speculation. That means you effectively believe Qanon is real. There is no actual narrative it is just a Rorschach test that conspiracy theorists can read their existing biases into. Conclusions should be drawn from evidence not the other way around.

# ? Mar 30, 2018 14:53

Prester Jane: Nov 4, 2008; by Hand Knit

Dmitri-9 posted:

You can't just theorycraft, eventually you have to put up some actual evidence to support your ideas. You just posted a conspiracy theorist "decoding" a Qanon post as proof for a whole bunch of speculation. That means you effectively believe Qanon is real.

I jumped the gun a bit yeah, it was late and I was tired and I got over-excited. I fully own up to that.

Also I only believe Q Anon is real only insofar as I believe there is an intelligent human being behind Q Anon who has an agenda. And I believe that agenda is being directed by Russia.

Edit: Q's most recent comment is just a link to a National Review piece accompanied by the word "truth". The article basically argues the Russia investigation it's all just projection from Democrats trying to cover up Hillary and Obama's Russia collusion.

Prester Jane fucked around with this message at 15:18 on Mar 30, 2018

# ? Mar 30, 2018 15:02

Ograbme: Jul 26, 2003; D--n it, how he nicks 'em

People sincerely believed in antifa supersoldiers and Starbucks estrogen pills, it does not take a disinformashski genious to fool the most credulous people on earth.

# ? Mar 30, 2018 17:50

WampaLord: Jan 14, 2010

Feinne posted:

It's definitely harder to do this than just writing insane gibberish, though, because you need to both make insane gibberish but ALSO make that insane gibberish full of fragments that can be broadly interpreted by your followers while also trying your best to encourage them when they think you are right and mitigate any time you went a bit too hard into a prediction and nothing happened that could be interpreted as fulfillment.

No, no you don't.

Crazy people are MASTERS at finding patterns where none exists. You can literally type gibberish and they will convince themselves they found a pattern.

# ? Mar 30, 2018 17:59

Big Hubris: Mar 8, 2011

John Titor and so many of 4chan's original amazingness worked because so many people liked it, it helped set the frame, and it gave membership community engagement other than raiding.

Antifa Supersoldiers and the Starbucks Estrogen Conspiracy worked because fascists are don't care about the content of the message as long as it reinforces their bias and allows them to feel victimized.

# ? Mar 30, 2018 18:14

Feinne: Oct 9, 2007; When you fall, get right back up again.

WampaLord posted:

No, no you don't.

Crazy people are MASTERS at finding patterns where none exists. You can literally type gibberish and they will convince themselves they found a pattern.

Yeah but they're also fickle, and will flit to something new if you're not consistently giving them the good poo poo.

# ? Mar 30, 2018 18:29

Mia Wasikowska: Oct 7, 2006

Maybe Alex Jones is scared but Roger Stone seems fuckin stoked

# ? Mar 30, 2018 18:50

Mia Wasikowska: Oct 7, 2006

fwiw in 2018 there are a lot more people with a lot more free time willing to gently caress with people online than ever before imo

# ? Mar 30, 2018 18:52

Argas: Jan 13, 2008; SRW Fanatic

Ratoslov posted:

Anyone can be a video game writer, in the sense that there is nothing stopping anyone from writing a game. Loads of people write games all the time. Y'all are looking at Undertale and deciding that it's success means that Toby Fox is actually secretly 20 guys from EA.

No. It wasn't uncommon a decade back for people, often even devs, to think that video game writing was just words. Anyone can write words! Why have dedicated writers when you can just have the devs do it? Sure, there've been plenty of good games with good dev writing but that's not because it's easy to write for video games. Hell, we've seen people who write fiction for a living explain that their skill set isn't really applicable to writing for video game writing due to the demands of development.

Whether Q is really started by Russians or just amplified by Russians isn't really a big deal to me, though the latter is scarier for obvious reasons. I'm mostly just amused but also frustrated by people thinking that it's easy to write gibberish and that anyone can do it because it's hitting some rather familiar notes for me.

# ? Mar 30, 2018 19:55

TapTheForwardAssist: Apr 9, 2007; Pretty Little Lyres

There is *so* much "sure this admin looks incompetent, but trust them, they have an awesome plan!"

I somehow had not realized that, unlike a lot of Freepers, the Qtards are pro-Sessions.

# ? Mar 31, 2018 01:26

TapTheForwardAssist: Apr 9, 2007; Pretty Little Lyres

Welp, Q has Roseanne Barr in his corner. So he's got that going for him.

quote:

She was back in January, and has since resumed tweeting about QAnon, in apparent contradiction of fans who had previously claimed Twitter was censoring her conspiracy tweets. Since Friday, she has tweeted or retweeted content relating to QAnon (or its other name �The Storm�) at least four times, in addition to a March 24 tweet that read �MKULTRA,� the name of a 1960s CIA mind-control program. The context for the tweet was not clear.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/roseanne-keeps-promoting-qanon-the-pro-trump-conspiracy-theory-that-makes-pizzagate-look-tame

# ? Mar 31, 2018 01:38

Cable Guy: Jul 18, 2005; I don't expect any trouble, but we'll be handing these out later...; Slippery Tilde

Crossposting from the Space thread in A&T - SA&L because I'd like to know what you guys think...

Cable Guy posted:

So I saw this thing on my YouTube feed.

What do you think..? Will they "find something" or do you think they'll play to the conspiracy theorists..? I mean it's RT - Putin's mouthpiece. It totally would not surprise me if they said, "nope, we found unmanned landers with some laser mirrors, but no LEM... anywhere".

Edit: Here's a link if anyone wants to watch it. I haven't. I try to avoid their kool-aid since their BS during Libya

As far as I know, Russia's never doubted this before and thinks the conspiracy nuts are just silly... Why would they be bothering?

Cable Guy fucked around with this message at 03:13 on Mar 31, 2018

# ? Mar 31, 2018 03:11

OwlFancier: Aug 22, 2013

Cable Guy posted:

Crossposting from the Space thread in A&T - SA&L because I'd like to know what you guys think...
As far as I know, Russia's never doubted this before and thinks the conspiracy nuts are just silly... Why would they be bothering?

I think it's not "Russia" doing it as much as it's people who happen to be Russian looking to do it. They're using crowdfunding to buy space on a rocket. It says as much in the video that apparently neither of you watched.

# ? Mar 31, 2018 03:16

Salacious Spy: May 29, 2010; Well the word got around they said this kid is insane, man
Banged in the mouth and now he's got AIDS, man

The only part of this thread more hilarious than this melodramatic Q nonsense is the people who came here to laugh at idiots grasping at straws to cobble together a nonsense narrative breathlessly talking about how it's part of the Russian conspiracy to brainwash the internet. This exact breed of stupid poo poo has been going on all over 4chan for over a decade, you don't need god-tier Russian psyops skills to run a :airquote:

Nostradamus Hustle :airquote:

on a bunch of CHUDs who are dumb enough to think Trump is a six-dimensional chess master in the first place. Christ just look at the (somewhat?) recent drama with moot *~selling 4chan out to the SJWs~* which included massive barrages of people posting Loose Change-style trains of LOOK AT THIS TWITTER POST... NOW LOOK AT THIS TIME STAMP... NOW LOOK AT THIS PICTURE... NOW LOOK AT THIS BUNDLE OF BLURRY PIXELS IN THE PICTURE... spaghetti logic coupled with sooper secrate WAKE UP SHEEPLE insider posts. It's an edgy basement dweller being fawned over by a bunch of other edgy basement dwellers. Shut up with this garbage and enjoy the bullshit.

Salacious Spy fucked around with this message at 03:58 on Mar 31, 2018

# ? Mar 31, 2018 03:48

TapTheForwardAssist: Apr 9, 2007; Pretty Little Lyres

The naives are getting restless for Sessions' 18,500 sealed indictments:

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2018/03/17/dont-ignore-the-obvious-key-words-from-ag-sessions-including-under-oath/ posted:

SW Richmond says:
March 17, 2018 at 2:37 pm

Perp walks, dammit. Clintons, Comey, McCabe, Rosenstein, Strzok, Page, Contreras, Kerry, Schiff, Steele, DWS, the Awan brothers and wives, those idiots at Platte River Networks, and bonus points for everyone who sits on the Federal Reserve Board of Governors. I want to see flashing lights and an over-armed stack of federal marshals in Chappaqua at 4am.

Because goddammit that�s what they would do to me in a motherf***ing heartbeat. Ask Randy Weaver.

But the sociopaths will NEVER start arresting the other sociopaths, because of the precedent it would set. It would also expose THEM to arrest. it would be breaking the club�s #1 rule.

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sherryoftexas says:
March 17, 2018 at 3:10 pm

SW Richmond, I�m starting to agree with you. What does 18,500 sealed indictments mean if they just sit in someone�s sock drawer? Put your money where your mouth is and SHOW me people being arrested and charged.

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cozette says:
March 17, 2018 at 7:53 pm

SW Richmond you really should up you�re psyop game. People here read what Sundance writes. We know that your doom and gloom is an hallucination. The articles is more proof of how much we�re WINNING!!!!!! We�re part of the movement that really is draining the Swamp.

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# ? Mar 31, 2018 04:24

Salacious Spy: May 29, 2010; Well the word got around they said this kid is insane, man
Banged in the mouth and now he's got AIDS, man

lmfao that last post is so :psyduck:

I don't even know where to begin

# ? Mar 31, 2018 04:47

Pope Guilty: Nov 6, 2006; The human animal is a beautiful and terrible creature, capable of limitless compassion and unfathomable cruelty.

Guess who's a believer!

https://twitter.com/therealroseanne/status/979890451200258048?s=19

# ? Mar 31, 2018 04:58

TapTheForwardAssist: Apr 9, 2007; Pretty Little Lyres

Kinsky posted:

lmfao that last post is so I don't even know where to begin

The shout-out to Randy Weaver is pretty telling: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Randy_Weaver

In fairness I agree that Randy Weaver's case at Ruby Ridge was excessive violence from the Feds. Much like with David Koresh, they had ample chances to just nab him when he was out in town and avoid a violent standoff. Neither of those guys were great people, but turning a simple arrest into a bunch of dead people is just not a good look for the government.

That said, is a white supremacist militiaman *really* your single best example of government overreach? You can't pick someone a little less controversial who's been wronged by the Feds?

# ? Mar 31, 2018 05:08

Salacious Spy: May 29, 2010; Well the word got around they said this kid is insane, man
Banged in the mouth and now he's got AIDS, man

Ruby Ridge was pretty much the seed of horror that grew into the tree of modern Second Amendment pearl-clutching. However crazy the dude might have been the actions of the feds during that event were absolutely unprecedented at the time and are reflected in just about every aspect of the DEM DERN GUBBERMENT GONNA TERK ERR GUNS paranoia that rules just about every national discussion about gun rights today. So people referring to Weaver as the prime example of a victim of federal oppression is pretty predictable.

# ? Mar 31, 2018 06:09

shelley: Nov 8, 2010

Ograbme posted:

People sincerely believed in antifa supersoldiers and Starbucks estrogen pills, it does not take a disinformashski genious to fool the most credulous people on earth.

When I was 15 I helped write an ARG that temporarily snookered a small forum-ful of people (until the storyline wrapped up). It was garbage produced by teenagers with zero funding, but people want to believe this stuff. Even if they don�t believe fully, they want to play along. It becomes like a game, trying to find clues and put them together.

I don�t know who�s behind Q-Anon, but I do think it�s more than one person working together. That explains shifts in writing style and that Q-Anon has continued to post so steadily. It�s a lot easier to maintain continuous output and reply to viewers when there�s more than one person posting.

Who are they? Why are they doing this? I don�t know. But a chan or forum with free pseudonymous posting is the perfect environment to do this in. Read the thread, see what viewers are thinking, tailor next post a little to the current discussion. Maybe stir the pot yourself to get things going, post anonymously a few times. The perfect posting crime

# ? Mar 31, 2018 07:57

Salacious Spy: May 29, 2010; Well the word got around they said this kid is insane, man
Banged in the mouth and now he's got AIDS, man

shelley posted:

Who are they? Why are they doing this?

It's one or more (loosely confederated at best) basement dwellers, and they're doing it for attention/fantasy fulfillment.

# ? Mar 31, 2018 09:06

dead gay comedy forums: Oct 21, 2011

It is amazing that poo poo like that is used to disinform and defend a garbage fire government

The internet truly makes you stupid

# ? Mar 31, 2018 16:22

b0ng: Jan 16, 2004; Thats a nice Game 7 you have there. Would be a shame if somebody nailed it down.

I feel like this �breadcrumbs� poo poo is the same kind of garbage that Mensch/Garland/those guys try to push all the time (maybe not quite as heavy on the gibberish but making vague predictions about the future). It seems like a plot to a terrible movie but so many people seem to amplify this garbage on both sides I don�t get it. I feel it could be possible that all of these people are sowing discord in America for Russian interests but that seems way more complicated than my gut feeling that it�s just idiots all around.

How is this load of crap that much different than that load of crap?

# ? Mar 31, 2018 16:42

Uglycat: Dec 4, 2000; MORE INDISPUTABLE PROOF I AM BAD AT POSTING
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b0ng posted:

I feel it could be possible that all of these people are sowing discord in America for Russian interests but that seems way more complicated than my gut feeling that it�s just idiots all around.

How is this load of crap that much different than that load of crap?

Scale of 1 to 10, how upset would you be to discover that this 'idiots all around' sowing discord in America are, in fact, operatives working on a sophisticated psyops attack funded by russian oligarchs and executed by state actors?

# ? Apr 1, 2018 02:18

OwlFancier: Aug 22, 2013

Uglycat posted:

Scale of 1 to 10, how upset would you be to discover that this 'idiots all around' sowing discord in America are, in fact, operatives working on a sophisticated psyops attack funded by russian oligarchs and executed by state actors?

Very because that's a massive waste of effort to produce something that occurs spontaneously quite regularly.

It would be infuriating in the same way that spending a fortune to create an AI capable of producing art, which ends up only being able to produce jackson pollack pieces would be infuriating.

OwlFancier fucked around with this message at 02:59 on Apr 1, 2018

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# ? May 24, 2024 23:37

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OwlFancier posted:

Very because that's a massive waste of effort to produce something that occurs spontaneously quite regularly.

It would be infuriating in the same way that spending a fortune to create an AI capable of producing art, which ends up only being able to produce jackson pollack pieces would be infuriating.

Well, someone wrote a program that can identify fake Pollock paintings from real ones: https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/now-computer-can-differentiate-between-real-jackson-pollocks-and-fakes-180954300/

# ? Apr 1, 2018 03:07

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