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Colonel Cancer
Sep 26, 2015

Tune into the fireplace channel, you absolute buffoon
Ya but people aren't gonna try that weird rear end poo poo at home. What are they gonna do, cast a magic spell and turn someone into a toilet?

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Smythe
Oct 12, 2003

myDad posted:

haha yeah does anyone have those or maybe lethal ogre facial vids?

yea lol, my friend is asking. for science.

Smythe
Oct 12, 2003

Colonel Cancer posted:

Ya but people aren't gonna try that weird rear end poo poo at home. What are they gonna do, cast a magic spell and turn someone into a toilet?

GBS: What are they gonna do, cast a magic spell and turn someone into a toilet?

myDad
Jan 20, 2010

ce n'est pas ma mère
College Slice
I think people have made some good points ITT & kids have always had undue expectations of sex that they have to unravel through experience. Can't say whether an indulgent outlet for deviant tastes has any real effect either, since it's been pointed out that people will create one if it does not exist. :shrug:

myDad
Jan 20, 2010

ce n'est pas ma mère
College Slice

Smythe posted:

GBS: What are they gonna do, cast a magic spell and turn someone into a toilet?

Draconi Ann
Oct 4, 2006

I am an Angel of the Lord.
Hopefully the accessibility of porn will make the younger guys I sleep with better at sex

ProSlayer
Aug 11, 2008

Hi friend
Watching porn and masturabating have become the best part of my day.

Moxxis Endowment
Dec 11, 2017

by Nyc_Tattoo

ProSlayer posted:

Watching porn and masturabating have become the best part of my day.
A life well lived.

Moon Atari
Dec 26, 2010

We are quick to blame the media consumed by men, but find me some erotica or romance targeting women that doesn't depict sex as something a man performs on a passively receiving woman, where he knows exactly how she wants it without any communication, and where he is in a position of extreme power over her by virtue of hyperbolic success, wealth, physical strength or literal magic.

Skypie
Sep 28, 2008

Moon Atari posted:

We are quick to blame the media consumed by men, but find me some erotica or romance targeting women that doesn't depict sex as something a man performs on a passively receiving woman, where he knows exactly how she wants it without any communication, and where he is in a position of extreme power over her by virtue of hyperbolic success, wealth, physical strength or literal magic.

On the other hand, pornography is and always has been way more accessible and mainstream than harlequin romance trash. Harlequin romance certainly has its own issues with portraying a flawless, muscle-bound hunk riding in from some exotic place and rescuing a housewife from the doldrums of domestic bliss. But the readership for that has always been smaller and less influential than Playboy or Hustler in terms of driving sexual norms.

In my opinion, stuff like 50 Shades is more dangerous because it encourages women to suffer straight up abuse because "love will change him if you're patient."

Coohoolin
Aug 5, 2012

Oor Coohoolie.
I reckon it's not necessarily going to lead to a super hosed up situation- an ever-increasing departure from realism and reality in extreme porn productions may help viewers to establish a proper cognitive separation between sex that is performative and manufactured for aesthetic purposes, and what you do with people you like. It helps disassociate the hyperbolic and exaggerated presentations of femininity onscreen from the instincts behind your social, professional, and romantic interactions with real people in the real world with actual real femininity. Basically at some point the porn is so hardcore and exaggerated that no one's going to develop a conditioned association with actual people and sexual relationships they might have.

I'm 27, we watched hentai when we were first "discovering" porn, and only the hosed up brokebrains would ever look at a cartoon girl getting ganged up on by tentacles and be so obtuse about what "women" or "people" are that the reactions would melt through to his perception of reality. I think as long as we keep improving our sex education approaches, and just as importantly (if perhaps not more so) teach children how to socialise and interact with other people in a respectful and empathetic way, all the hardcore exaggerated hosed up porn in the world isn't going to ruin the next generation any more than the printing press did for the first kids who could get their hands on illustrations of boobs.

^^^^^^^50 Shades is trash and dangerous loving trash. I researched a bit of a related issue for a sociology paper back in uni and not only was everyone I spoke to in the fetish community super pissed at the book for basically presenting BDSM stuff as being straight up abusive, but it was also encouraging women to seek out abusive partners, ignoring any issue of consent (which is going to be nuanced as gently caress and NEEDS to be addressed explicitly in a BDSM context), and even just being dumb as poo poo about the stuff they wanted to do, buying construction rope from hardware stores or those plastic zip knot things or any manner of poo poo that could seriously injure someone.

Coohoolin fucked around with this message at 05:44 on Jan 16, 2018

Moon Atari
Dec 26, 2010

I don't just mean harlequin romance though. I mean the virtual entirety of sexual fantasy made for or by straight women, or that is enjoyed by and popular with straight women. That includes sex as depicted in mainstream media, in outright romances or romance embedded in something more general.

Away all Goats
Jul 5, 2005

Goose's rebellion

Sibilant Crisp posted:

Idk I was of an age internet porn was as strong as ever when I was going through puberty, and my inexperience in browsing through the internet led me down some dark corners, yet I am pretty normal sexually.

I think the sex weirds are either born that way, or have some tramatic event cause their tastes to change, not porno.

Yeah I think it's more concerning for kids to be looking at stuff like faces of death and torture videos. I looked at those as a kid and now I post on GBS

Captain Candiru
Nov 9, 2006

These hips don't lye
The Romance Novel scene is super different these days and typically considered kinda feminist and empowering; it's not what it was even 10 years ago. It's a weird transition.

Bacon Terrorist
May 7, 2010

to ride eternal, shiny and chrome

THUNDERDOME LOSER 2022
It’s no coincidence Fifty Shades started as Twilight fanfiction and the message from Twilight was ‘it’s worth giving up everything for a boyfriend and aesthetic beauty’.

Vaginal Vagrant
Jan 12, 2007

by R. Guyovich

Moon Atari posted:

I don't just mean harlequin romance though. I mean the virtual entirety of sexual fantasy made for or by straight women, or that is enjoyed by and popular with straight women. That includes sex as depicted in mainstream media, in outright romances or romance embedded in something more general.

What about shrek his gf is an ogre and a princess so strong and rich. Maybe ogre fiction and porn is the most moral kind.

Commie NedFlanders
Mar 8, 2014

Check out this guy’s videos


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WasVjoakbBU

Fartbox
Apr 27, 2017
What's happening? Dri fu an only two? what is this?
Is this an avatar? I don't know rm dunk

38 seconds in and he had to mention he was vegan

KomodoWagon
May 10, 2013

by R. Guyovich
Technology is turning kids into psychopathic rapists who coerce girls into having demeaning and harmful sex while their friends film it on their phones and then share the video to humiliate their victims for jollies to the point where this type of behavior is the norm and kids who are capable of empathy will be ostracized and victimized. If you think for a second that this isn't happening or that it won't get much worse or that society is going to find some way to fix it, you are loving delusional.

Bringing children into this world is selfish and cruel, because you're going to either create a hosed up sex freak monster or a victim of either sexual assault or merciless bullying.

General Dog
Apr 26, 2008

Everybody's working for the weekend

KomodoWagon posted:

Technology is turning kids into psychopathic rapists who coerce girls into having demeaning and harmful sex while their friends film it on their phones and then share the video to humiliate their victims for jollies to the point where this type of behavior is the norm and kids who are capable of empathy will be ostracized and victimized. If you think for a second that this isn't happening or that it won't get much worse or that society is going to find some way to fix it, you are loving delusional.

Bringing children into this world is selfish and cruel, because you're going to either create a hosed up sex freak monster or a victim of either sexual assault or merciless bullying.

It's not the porn, it's the phones

KomodoWagon
May 10, 2013

by R. Guyovich
It's both.

big cummers ONLY
Jul 17, 2005

I made a series of bad investments. Tarantula farm. The bottom fell out of the market.

Where do you get this information since I'm assuming you're not a teenager

I'm interested but I can't just believe your insane theory without research

KomodoWagon
May 10, 2013

by R. Guyovich

big cummers ONLY posted:

Where do you get this information since I'm assuming you're not a teenager

I'm interested but I can't just believe your insane theory without research

I'm on my phone so not about to go dig up sociology papers, but the fact that revenge porn is huge among kids while teenagers also, according to people who work with kids, have deeply hosed up views on sex should be a pretty huge indication that things are loving straight off to hell.

Ponies Ist Krieg
Dec 10, 2017

KomodoWagon posted:

Technology is turning kids into psychopathic rapists who coerce girls into having demeaning and harmful sex while their friends film it on their phones and then share the video to humiliate their victims for jollies to the point where this type of behavior is the norm and kids who are capable of empathy will be ostracized and victimized. If you think for a second that this isn't happening or that it won't get much worse or that society is going to find some way to fix it, you are loving delusional.

Bringing children into this world is selfish and cruel, because you're going to either create a hosed up sex freak monster or a victim of either sexual assault or merciless bullying.

Just popping in and then very quickly out of this thread so I can point out that humans have been horrible
monsters since we've been around. We're just horrible monsters in different, much more efficient ways now.

big cummers ONLY
Jul 17, 2005

I made a series of bad investments. Tarantula farm. The bottom fell out of the market.

Except I don't know that it's actually huge. It's nbd I can wait for you to get some time to post your sources.

None of my friend's kids seem to be psychopathic rape machines so what you're suggesting is very different from what I see. Gotta see dat research before I accept your conclusions as fact

KomodoWagon
May 10, 2013

by R. Guyovich

Ponies Ist Krieg posted:

Just popping in and then very quickly out of this thread so I can point out that humans have been horrible
monsters since we've been around. We're just horrible monsters in different, much more efficient ways now.

Oh drat, you actually made a post that wasn't pointless insipid poo poo. Yes, it's true that all people have always been horrible, but with each generation we have a chance to slightly remedy that fact and with the unbridling of social media and tech companies coupled with a laissez-faire attitude to child-rearing we're dropping the loving ball in a way that will hurt society for decades to come.

Oscar Wild
Apr 11, 2006

It's good to be a G
I don't understand the thread title. Pubescent males value porn very highly. To the detriment of their physical and mental well-being.

Comfy Fleece Sweater
Apr 2, 2013

You see, but you do not observe.

What is this “porn” you speak of? Might I see a sample?

mind the walrus
Sep 22, 2006

KomodoWagon posted:

Oh drat, you actually made a post that wasn't pointless insipid poo poo. Yes, it's true that all people have always been horrible, but with each generation we have a chance to slightly remedy that fact and with the unbridling of social media and tech companies coupled with a laissez-faire attitude to child-rearing we're dropping the loving ball in a way that will hurt society for decades to come.
This is a really pompous way of saying "Parents aren't doing a good job with their kids."

Oscar Wild
Apr 11, 2006

It's good to be a G
They should add warnings to the beginning of porn like they do to cigarettes in Hong Kong. Instead of showing black, diseased lungs they can just show massive rash marks from compulsive masturbation.

Zane
Nov 14, 2007

KomodoWagon posted:

Oh drat, you actually made a post that wasn't pointless insipid poo poo. Yes, it's true that all people have always been horrible, but with each generation we have a chance to slightly remedy that fact and with the unbridling of social media and tech companies coupled with a laissez-faire attitude to child-rearing we're dropping the loving ball in a way that will hurt society for decades to come.
this will blow your mind: technology is just an objectification of human thinking in the world. technology isn't to blame. humans are to blame. it's humans all the way down.

Commie NedFlanders
Mar 8, 2014

https://twitter.com/s_saeen/status/954435363728183296

Ocean Book
Sep 27, 2010

:yum: - hi
i was thinking about how porn has a lot of weird bad things gross in it. Maybe it has to do with the way culturally it is introduced to children (this is shifting I know) that sex = weird/bad/gross so transitively weird/bad/gross = sex.

i dont find it very convincing but i found the thought at least worth having.

Who What Now
Sep 10, 2006

by Azathoth

Cnut the Great posted:

Did guys before now really have a better idea though? I doubt it.

I mean for centuries dudes didn't think the female orgasm is real.

Twat McTwatterson
May 31, 2011
i watch a lot of loving porn and my wife has no clue

it's awesome

new phone who dis
May 24, 2007

by VideoGames
Morbid Hound
As a child around the age of 8, I first found porn under a board a garbage can sat on in the alley. For years, every once in a while I would still pick that board up and check again.

STABASS
Apr 18, 2009

Fun Shoe
I dunno if there's a general porn thread this question would be better suited for, but here goes: why are the men in Japanese pornos always so ugly? I don't think I've ever seen a fit, young man in any Japanese video. They're always either in their 50s or pudgy weirdos who have a disgusting slack-jawed expression throughout the entire thing. Is it a lack of talent, or a viewer-insertion thing? What's up with this?

TheMostFrench
Jul 12, 2009

Stop for me, it's the claw!



OXBALLS DOT COM posted:

Children should also be free to work if they wish. Historically, this was always true, and it is the height of artificial Victorian morals to ban it. If they have time to watch youtube videos for 6 hours a day, they should be free to work.

Turn your child into a marketing device. They are now a means to an end and can replace your career as a way to earn money (139+ million views).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ln9k6vsf0sU

TheMostFrench fucked around with this message at 05:12 on Jan 20, 2018

new phone who dis
May 24, 2007

by VideoGames
Morbid Hound

Cantaloupe posted:

I dunno if there's a general porn thread this question would be better suited for, but here goes: why are the men in Japanese pornos always so ugly? I don't think I've ever seen a fit, young man in any Japanese video. They're always either in their 50s or pudgy weirdos who have a disgusting slack-jawed expression throughout the entire thing. Is it a lack of talent, or a viewer-insertion thing? What's up with this?

They know their market.

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Escape Addict
Jan 25, 2012

YOSPOS

Cantaloupe posted:

I dunno if there's a general porn thread this question would be better suited for, but here goes: why are the men in Japanese pornos always so ugly? I don't think I've ever seen a fit, young man in any Japanese video. They're always either in their 50s or pudgy weirdos who have a disgusting slack-jawed expression throughout the entire thing. Is it a lack of talent, or a viewer-insertion thing? What's up with this?

No joke, I heard they're Yakuza. Unlike porn in America where there is male and female talent, I've heard that a lot of the guys are just mobsters. Who knows if it's true, but it would explain why they look nothing like actors or models.

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