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Entropic posted:I guess a one-mana creature tutor could be pretty good? Worldly Tutor is somewhat hot, yes.
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Frozen_flame posted:It can run Secure the Wastes, surely? And make dudes EOT with that land, or Gideon it up. It should be able to hit 5 creatures to sac. Yeah, I definitely think that this land being successful is going to depend on how good secure the wastes is in the meta. An esper deck with jace can get 5 tokens without a problem. anglachel posted:I'm surprised Kalitas isn't spiking. I guess the MTGFinance types only spec if it's below 10 dollars. Issue with the finance folks is that I can't see Drana being a 4 of due to being legendary and the 3 drop spot looks like it's gonna be really crowed in that deck. Kalitas is already the most expensive card in the set. He also, for whatever reason, plays really lack luster in standard for some odd reason. He just doesn't take over a game like you would think he would. Far too often you play him and think "I would just prefer to have a thunderbreak instead". Sickening fucked around with this message at 14:23 on Mar 17, 2016 |
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Mar 17, 2016 14:18
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the tutor looks p sweet to me, i hope the self-mill is as good as it was so it's consistently on by turn 4 or so
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If sorin comes out today and is b or b/r instead of b/w the vampire hype will have officially lost its breaks. The casual part of my playgroup is all in on vampires at the moment and I am sure a lot of casual players everywhere are too. The pre-release price of stuff vampire related will be bonkers.
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Mar 17, 2016 14:27
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Summoner's Pact has enabled some pretty degenerate stuff. This costs 1 more on the turn you play it but is a lot more flexible in terms of targets.
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Sickening posted:If sorin comes out today and is b or b/r instead of b/w the vampire hype will have officially lost its breaks. The casual part of my playgroup is all in on vampires at the moment and I am sure a lot of casual players everywhere are too. The pre-release price of stuff vampire related will be bonkers. I want him to be BR cuz he mad. Also we've only have one other BR Planeswalker right? and it was the bad Sarkhan.
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Frozen_flame posted:It can run Secure the Wastes, surely? And make dudes EOT with that land, or Gideon it up. It should be able to hit 5 creatures to sac. Depends what other token makers there are in the set. And how good Sorin is.
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Mar 17, 2016 14:30
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sarmhan posted:
Sweet combo with Dust Bowl.
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Mar 17, 2016 14:35
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Brilliant deduction there Beleren, were the giant stone arrows a clue?
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Boy am I excited to open those at prerelease
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sarmhan posted:
Neat. Feels like it should be an Uncommon though. It being a Rare leaves a bad taste in my mouth since it doesn't really do much other than tap for mana. I guess it can get you Landfall at instant speed? Maybe if it sacced itself to do something? E: I guess if your bad you can play it with that Black "sac a land" Divination. But playing it just for that seems dumb. Maybe there are some big rewards for saccing Lands? And I don't just mean turning on Delerium because there are better ways to get a land into the Yard than saccing one. Cernunnos fucked around with this message at 14:47 on Mar 17, 2016 |
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Mar 17, 2016 14:43
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Wurzag posted:Boy am I excited to open those at prerelease
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sarmhan posted:
Worst rare to open in the set?
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Cernunnos posted:Neat. It's a rare because it doesn't actually do anything in Limited. This isn't an Eldrazi set where colorless mana is actually useful and recurring a land to plan would probably require a pretty unlikely combo to actually be useful. I mean I guess you can discard it to something and then bring it back later to get yourself up to 5 or 6 mana when you need to? It seems pretty marginal. That doesn't seem worth making your mana less consistent for.
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Mar 17, 2016 14:51
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So how many rare lands are left?
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I'm interested in seeing if Vampires can push to tier 1.5 territory in modern with this set. The lords start at 3 mana right now, and that spot could be crowded, but Falkenrath Gorger and Olivia 2 show promise. Vial-ing in a guy and getting another madness guy on Olivia could be good.
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Samael posted:New Spoiler
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Mar 17, 2016 15:09
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It also works with self-mill.
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Cernunnos posted:E: I guess if your bad you can play it with that Black "sac a land" Divination. But playing it just for that seems dumb. Maybe there are some big rewards for saccing Lands? And I don't just mean turning on Delerium because there are better ways to get a land into the Yard than saccing one. If you self-mill or discard it, it helps you ramp!  [e: beaten] quote:Something that occurs to me is that they could potentially have made a card with this same general flavor in any set, but in a set without a DFC theme, it would have followed the "sacrifice this and put a token into play" template (cf. Gargoyle Castle), which is obviously somewhat weaker in most (all?) situations.
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Mar 17, 2016 15:12
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Irony Be My Shield posted:It also works with self-mill. Honestly I feel like this was the lands main purpose.
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sarmhan posted:
What in the actual gently caress is this card's purpose in standard? I'm sure it's not landfall?!?
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Mar 17, 2016 15:14
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That Abbey feels like a Mythic.
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JerryLee posted:If you self-mill or discard it, it helps you ramp! Plus they couldn't have given the token that many keywords and still fit the text on the card
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sarmhan posted:
The loving flavor text on this. *Literal circle of glowing arrows pointing at a spot* Yes jace you are the best investigator, good job, you solved the cryptomystery.
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There's a land discard theme, a mill theme and maybe also a land sacrifice theme. It gives you value in all of those cases. Well done on finding the big obvious thing that was literally in the newspaper, Jace.
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Sickening posted:So how many rare lands are left? well going by the collector numbers... quote:265 Tamiyo's Journal JerryLee posted:Something that occurs to me is that they could potentially have made a card with this same general flavor in any set, but in a set without a DFC theme, it would have followed the "sacrifice this and put a token into play" template (cf. Gargoyle Castle), which is obviously somewhat weaker in most (all?) situations.
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80s James Hetfield posted:What in the actual gently caress is this card's purpose in standard? I'm sure it's not landfall?!?
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Entropic posted:well going by the collector numbers... Well hopefully today will be land spoiler day. I am sure everyone is more than ready to figure out what the hell mana is going to be.
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Mar 17, 2016 15:21
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OK one of my goals for limited in this set is to Just The Wind someone's flipped demon church land after they sacced 5 dudes to animate it.
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80s James Hetfield posted:What in the actual gently caress is this card's purpose in standard? I'm sure it's not landfall?!? You pitch it to Jace or Nahiri and ramp with it at the end step of an opponent's turn.
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Entropic posted:Bounce is still almost as good against this as it would be against an indestructible token creature. Yeah, you're definitely not wrong. Rip_Van_Winkle posted:The loving flavor text on this. As with so many things, I wish this was self-aware on Creative's part but I know it's probably not. (Also, in all fairness, I'm sure it means the cryptoliths all across Innistrad. It's still funny though.)
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Frozen_flame posted:Fresh from twitter: Traverse the Ulvenwald ... Elves? Ha! Rev, Turtenwald!
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I noticed that Traverse the Ulvenwald goes from basic land to just land after Delerium, so besides the creature tutor it can find nonbasics.
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Orange Fluffy Sheep posted:I noticed that Traverse the Ulvenwald goes from basic land to just land after Delerium, so besides the creature tutor it can find nonbasics. Card's probably really good, yeah.
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The creature tutor being a sorcery kinda kills it for me.
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80s James Hetfield posted:What in the actual gently caress is this card's purpose in standard? I'm sure it's not landfall?!? Discard outlets and self mill. Its not particularly needed but thats what its for...
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Just give me a new Invisible Stalker and I'll be happy!
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Sorin seems interesting. That delirium payoff seems garbo. Sickening fucked around with this message at 15:46 on Mar 17, 2016 |
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