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Nevets posted:Don't you guys just leave the anomaly alone if it's <80% success rate and come back to it later? I do, yes, though you still get the odd one that just won't work.
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Nevets posted:Don't you guys just leave the anomaly alone if it's <80% success rate and come back to it later? I only ever do them at 5% failure. I used to wait until they were at 0%, but with the change to make the floor 5%, I just wait for that. It's so fast to level up scientists to 3* which makes the majority of them 5% (once you've unlocked discovery of course). Baronjutter posted:I much prefer how endless space does anomalies. They are pre-set and visible, no discovery chance. They often stay relevant as the game goes on because you need higher levels of anomaly research tech to attempt them. Stellaris sort of skill-gates them, but failure can be quite annoying. I usually prefer more binary systems, like "you need X level scientist to research this" and it's an automatic success. Less worry about bad dice rolls. This would be nice, especially if they were a wider range. I'd like to see anomalies that require a level 9 or 10 scientist. They should be pretty goddamn amazing if they do require one that high (maybe discover a wormhole to an intact ring world system?) but I would love for a huge range of skill levels required, but if you have the appropriate number they are auto-success.
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Dec 5, 2017 22:39
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I feel like anomalies would be more interesting if they were all of the CK2 event choice variety, and without a fail condition.
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Gyrotica posted:I feel like anomalies would be more interesting if they were all of the CK2 event choice variety, and without a fail condition. Now I really want the stellaris version of CK's Blackadder flying machine quest line. The comedy of errors equivalent of the Horizon signal.
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binge crotching posted:I only ever do them at 5% failure. I used to wait until they were at 0%, but with the change to make the floor 5%, I just wait for that. Same.
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OwlFancier posted:Anomalies really should be either there or not and chance to find them shouldn't be a thing, because it functions as chance to [i]produce[i] them. I love how Dominions does it's hidden locations, which is generating them during map creation, but locking their discovery behind getting searched by a certain level of searcher. So a Level 2 Scientist doing a scan of a location will find anomalies of level 2 or lower, but won't find anomalies of higher levels. They're still there, and if you get a higher level scientist they can check again and find them.
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DatonKallandor posted:I love how Dominions does it's hidden locations, which is generating them during map creation, but locking their discovery behind getting searched by a certain level of searcher. So a Level 2 Scientist doing a scan of a location will find anomalies of level 2 or lower, but won't find anomalies of higher levels. They're still there, and if you get a higher level scientist they can check again and find them. This
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DatonKallandor posted:I love how Dominions does it's hidden locations, which is generating them during map creation, but locking their discovery behind getting searched by a certain level of searcher. So a Level 2 Scientist doing a scan of a location will find anomalies of level 2 or lower, but won't find anomalies of higher levels. They're still there, and if you get a higher level scientist they can check again and find them. Yeah dominions would be a good option but I would suggest getting rid of the failure chance if you went with that, as it stands I think making them always discoverable, but keep the difficulty levels for actually investigating them would be maybe a bit preferable? With leaders and the number of planets as they are I dunno if I'd want to have to site search every planet in every system over again.
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I made the mistake of not wardeccing the entire galaxy when a FE awakened on the other side of the galaxy. Initially they had a fleet about equal to my own, 12 years later they have triple that after easily stomping their neighbors and simply death-blob any time I wardec them. Really wish there was an alternate option to deal with them. Warbadger fucked around with this message at 04:07 on Dec 6, 2017 |
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DatonKallandor posted:I love how Dominions does it's hidden locations, which is generating them during map creation, but locking their discovery behind getting searched by a certain level of searcher. So a Level 2 Scientist doing a scan of a location will find anomalies of level 2 or lower, but won't find anomalies of higher levels. They're still there, and if you get a higher level scientist they can check again and find them. This was exactly my thought as well. There are already the situation log quest updates when you miss a precursor artifact after a random amount of time. You could get a little update after x time that says you might have missed something/the data doesn't match up and to send a higher level science ship to the system to recheck it.
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Nevets posted:Don't you guys just leave the anomaly alone if it's <80% success rate and come back to it later? e: which would help keep PSC relevant late game, come to think if it. Splicer fucked around with this message at 08:35 on Dec 6, 2017 |
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kiss me Pikachu posted:This was exactly my thought as well. There are already the situation log quest updates when you miss a precursor artifact after a random amount of time. You could get a little update after x time that says you might have missed something/the data doesn't match up and to send a higher level science ship to the system to recheck it. Yeah that would be a great way to notify the player that there's still undiscovered anomalies without putting a "anomaly here" marker everywhere there is one and spoiling the discovery aspect. It also has the bonus aspect that it lets you crank up the anomaly density signifcantly, but make many of them high level - which means the availible resources in the galaxy naturally scale up during the lategame as more anomalies are popped.
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DatonKallandor posted:Yeah that would be a great way to notify the player that there's still undiscovered anomalies without putting a "anomaly here" marker everywhere there is one and spoiling the discovery aspect. It also has the bonus aspect that it lets you crank up the anomaly density signifcantly, but make many of them high level - which means the availible resources in the galaxy naturally scale up during the lategame as more anomalies are popped.
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If they're upping the amount of researchable tech I hope they increase the amount of techs able to be researched as well. Also, I asked it a while ago, but is there a cap to the amount of times you can research stuff like the +5% shield upgrade research card? I think I got to rank 42 or so on my first game before moving on to a new game.
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Splicer posted:Could store "best scan so far" on a per-planet basis, and they're just treated as unscanned by any ship/scientist combo with a higher scan score. This is also how Dominions handles site searching. It works well. To be fair, if Stellaris were to do Dominions style site searching, we would click on Jupiter and see that it was scanned by a level 2 physics scientist, a level 5 society scientist, and hasn't been scanned by an engineer yet. We have already discovered the ancient library on Jupiter thanks to our society scan. If we come back and scan Jupiter with an engineer that is at least level 2 we will also find the ancient immersive game complex, because that site requires both level 1 physics and level 2 engineering to find.
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I don't want to have to pay that much attention to scanning. It would have to be folded into auto explore somehow (which would also make me actually get that tech earlier)
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Nuclearmonkee posted:I don't want to have to pay that much attention to scanning. It would have to be folded into auto explore somehow (which would also make me actually get that tech earlier) How wrecked are your wrists?
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OwlFancier posted:Also megacryometeors I've seen these! In the days of my youth I used to work at a grocery store across the street from a tv station, and one summer day 4 or 5 of these fuckers slammed into the road and the field that belonged to the station. That poo poo will kill the gently caress outta you, they're like bowling ball sized, or the ones I saw were.
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Splicer posted:You mean you don't hire a computer specialist and camp them out in physics until you get autoexplore and then automate all your science shops immediately and only return to them when they die, need an upgrade, or contain a specialist you need? Auto-explore is nice but it's also not a huge chore to queue up a bunch of "survey system" orders. It's just a pointless chore. Past the early game where I want to survey the closest systems first, anyway.
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Magil Zeal posted:Auto-explore is nice but it's also not a huge chore to queue up a bunch of "survey system" orders. I like how many completely different playstyles this game supports.
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^^^I agree! I just wish generals are useful so the opportunity cost for choosing leaders is greater. 3 science ships exploring, 1 empty in reserve back home for when my scientists level up for the tougher anomalies. The rest of my leader slots are used on multiple admirals leading small fleets to level them up. I don't generally go for leader lifespan traits so staggering my admirals is a nice way to ensure I get the fleet discount trait in addition to whatever initial skill I picked. e: This is peacetime early-midgame idling at the capital. During early and midgame wars, I bench the youngest (generally the least experienced) and merge all fleets under my best admiral. 3 DONG HORSE fucked around with this message at 18:12 on Dec 6, 2017 |
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Splicer posted:You mean you don't hire a computer specialist and camp them out in physics until you get autoexplore and then automate all your science shops immediately and only return to them when they die, need an upgrade, or contain a specialist you need? Does the specialty of who you put in a research slot affect the generated choices?
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Split Pea Superman posted:Does the specialty of who you put in a research slot affect the generated choices? I think there are some choices that are more likely to roll for maniacs, geniuses, psychics, and personal AI holders.
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My understanding is that having a trait makes it more likely that items related to that trait will appear in the list of techs. I don't know if this applies to all traits or just some.
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Maniacals tend to roll certain rare techs much more often, which is what balances the trait out vs Genius.
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TheDeadlyShoe posted:Maniacals tend to roll certain rare techs much more often, which is what balances the trait out vs Genius. This is good to know. They have to research the whole tech, or can I just bring them in at the last second to finish the tech?
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Split Pea Superman posted:This is good to know. They have to research the whole tech, or can I just bring them in at the last second to finish the tech? As far as I can tell, you can swap at the end. I've done it to get psionic techs but it could've been a coincidence. It was the only time I played a spiritualist game that went that far.
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Relevant Tangent posted:Let me tell you the story of Fronds of Gold. Even as a sprout they were smart. Once a season had passed and they were in full bloom it was obvious they were the smartest being on the planet. Then they were taken by aliens. The aliens had flying vessels, but even they weren't as smart as FoG. The aliens had FoG help a giant sphere calculate infinity and create a new Universe. They had FoG examine an impossible ceramic teapot floating in the corona of a sun. FoG raised two species to sentience. Eventually. FoG was elected leader of the aliens, and used their power to raise their own species into space. FoG outlived three generations of his adopted people, led them through multiple wars, and ultimately died surrounded by four species who cherished their wisdom and kindness. Oh my god this is beautiful
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Warbadger posted:I made the mistake of not wardeccing the entire galaxy when a FE awakened on the other side of the galaxy. Initially they had a fleet about equal to my own, 12 years later they have triple that after easily stomping their neighbors and simply death-blob any time I wardec them. If you can hold them off for another couple of truce cycles, decadence will kick in and basically make them unable to field a fleet at all. I had the same issue with an awoken FE that quickly took over a quarter of the galaxy but then their rate of growth really slowed. I eventually moved a ship close enough to see their planets and decadence was really hurting them badly. You have to mouse over their individual population to see the decadence modifier. Even though their fleet power was still overwhelming, they couldn't bring it out of starport at all because of how negative maintenance they were. And obviously they couldn't rebuild anything I killed. So I freed all their satellite states and a few decades later they were wiped out by a fanatical purifier that they had made a satellite earlier. I guess they were right to be xenophobic in the end.  Edit: Nope, you just get a pop up window and you can click to keep playing. VVVVVV OGS-Remix fucked around with this message at 18:36 on Dec 6, 2017 |
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Meeting victory conditions doesn't do anything stupid like insta-end the game right? It want to see an end game threat, but I'm 7 planets away from domination and I've still got some ring worlds to colonize.
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Split Pea Superman posted:Meeting victory conditions doesn't do anything stupid like insta-end the game right? It want to see an end game threat, but I'm 7 planets away from domination and I've still got some ring worlds to colonize. You're given a basic stats screen and the option to quit or keep playing.
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Split Pea Superman posted:Does the specialty of who you put in a research slot affect the generated choices?
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Split Pea Superman posted:This is good to know. They have to research the whole tech, or can I just bring them in at the last second to finish the tech?
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Magil Zeal posted:Auto-explore is nice but it's also not a huge chore to queue up a bunch of "survey system" orders. Yeah it takes just a few seconds to queue survey system on a pile of systems and forget about them until my science ship shows as idle. I rarely get auto explore until very deep in the tech tree, usually as a cheap option to refresh my picks.
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Nuclearmonkee posted:Yeah it takes just a few seconds to queue survey system on a pile of systems and forget about them until my science ship shows as idle. I rarely get auto explore until very deep in the tech tree, usually as a cheap option to refresh my picks. I do try and pick it up for the plus + anomaly find chance edict simply because finding more anomalies=more chances to find stuff like +3 minerals in a system or if you know the outcomes you can safely pick stuff like instant 1,000 min instead of the +3 site miles away from anywhere you're borders will ever be. The game i'm on now I actually avoided surveying stuff in my home system until I was able to pick up the discovery bonus to find anomaly. I'm not entirely sure if the system even works that way though, or how much it actually helps.
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Replace anomalies with a popup event that can have random outcomes and gives special options for scientist traits. There aren't that many anomalies anyway so it probably wouldn't be a major rewrite for Paradox. And remove critical failures that kill your scientist please.
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Demiurge4 posted:Replace anomalies with a popup event that can have random outcomes and gives special options for scientist traits. There aren't that many anomalies anyway so it probably wouldn't be a major rewrite for Paradox. It might even be better if you have a choice, though (again echoing CK 2): Well, you *could* try this dangerous experiment, and you'd have a % chance of scientist having something bad happening, but you'd also have a % chance of something good happening. Bad could include death, but would more likely include hilarious terribad maladies to the scientist to make things interesting.
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Split Pea Superman posted:I do try and pick it up for the plus + anomaly find chance edict simply because finding more anomalies=more chances to find stuff like +3 minerals in a system or if you know the outcomes you can safely pick stuff like instant 1,000 min instead of the +3 site miles away from anywhere you're borders will ever be. The game i'm on now I actually avoided surveying stuff in my home system until I was able to pick up the discovery bonus to find anomaly. It's a weird thing, like if colonising too early in a speed colony strat ultimately reduced the total number of colonisable planets.
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https://twitter.com/StellarisGame/status/938703353508450305 "The Humanoids Species Pack releases today at 15:00 CET - Who's excited? http://bit.ly/2BQ826V "  Cannot wait.
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DD is upquote:That's all for today! Next week's dev diary will also be about the Cherryh update, talking about a little usability feature that we call the Fleet Manager. See you then! OMFG
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