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Nessus posted:One guess is Marla Maples. She was also on those forms and if she said "Yes, I release them" I believe the Donald can't do poo poo nor dick about it, at least not in a timeframe of "before the election." If it was Maples, why release just the state return first-pagers for just one year? Why not hand the NYT a box for every year they were married? (Unless the NYT has more stuff to drop that they haven't mentioned). canepazzo posted:"Hillary Clinton on Assange "Can't we just drone this guy" -- report" The thing is that what hurts Trump isn't usually the scandal, it's his lovely reactions to it. There are a lot of political maneuvers to deflect, dodge, or redirect attacks, and the Clintons are the masters at that art. I'd be surprised to see this go anywhere because Clinton has the tools to bat it down. Night10194 posted:I think we'll see a lot of them because the meltdown over Miss Universe leaves him open to them. Right. Putting this out there without the narrative risks (a) it not really sticking if similar stuff isn't released and (b) being seen as biased and just writing a hit piece. But tacking onto an existing narrative is seen as a non-biased action.
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Built 4 Cuban Linux posted:I don't think that drone thing is the story they've been hyping up. They didn't post it on their own site, it's super weak, and it's a day early. Pretty standard Assange honestly.
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Built 4 Cuban Linux posted:I don't think that drone thing is the story they've been hyping up. They didn't post it on their own site, it's super weak, and it's a day early. This is how it has usually gone with them.
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Maples is under nondisclosure agreements just like Ivana. She's more or less an employee of his now and somewhat stuck bring his toady. Don't feel tok bad for anyone stupid or unethical enough to let Trump gently caress them.
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Oct 3, 2016 14:17
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Night10194 posted:This is how it has usually gone with them. And let's be honest: who hasn't wanted to drone Assange?
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Oct 3, 2016 14:17
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Ahaha of course Assange would think a joke about droning him is an earth-shattering revelation that will sink a Presidential candidate. Like, there's so many ways to demonstrate it's a joke. Most of all though, you know that old line about "A good friend bails you out of prison, but a best friend is in the cell with you"? Yeah, the UK is that latter friend for the US. When y'all wanted to go into Iraq everyone else said either "lol don't be an idiot that's a terrible idea" or "fiiiiiinneeeee I guess we can spare six dudes and a 50 year old APC" but we said "Haha that sounds like a laugh, let's go!" and went balls-deep in Basra with you. If the US wanted something illegally done about Assange, you would have asked us and we'd have sent it to the relevant people at MI5 or whatever and got it done.
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Built 4 Cuban Linux posted:I don't think that drone thing is the story they've been hyping up. They didn't post it on their own site, it's super weak, and it's a day early. The "super weak" part isn't disqualifying--this is Wikileaks we're talking about--but I also agree this isn't the rumored leak. They'd post it on their own site if it was. That said, as far as I know, the existence of a leak at all is just from a Reddit poster "close to Wikileaks," right? Maybe this is it, I dunno. We'll know in a couple days I guess.
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Cythereal posted:And let's be honest: who hasn't wanted to drone Assange? This is the main thing I think that makes it really weak. Maybe Assange thinks tons of Americans love him, but he's basically reviled by the vast majority of people who know who he is. And the only people who would actually believe Hillary was serious were already in the tank for Assange.
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"I know what you did. In London. He was a hero and his blood is on your hands. I'll see you soon." Bourne let the phone drop to the pavement and opened up the trunk containing his rocket launcher.
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Yeah when Assange was blowing the lid off of what was going on in Iraq without our knowledge I was more supportive of him but that was all because of Chelsea Manning basically sacrificing her own freedom to deliver Assange that info to take credit for, so now as I know more about him and have seen him interviewed a few times, I realize he's an egomaniacal shitheel. So it figures he thinks a US Gov't official joking about droning him is some huge lid-blowing revelation. rear end in a top hat. Who in the Pentagon hasn't wanted to drone him by now?
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The other thing that makes me think this is it is that he was trying to hype it by cancelling the original announcement due to 'security concerns'. Probably trying to play up 'MY LIFE IS IN DANGER FROM THE MIGHTY IMPERIALIST AMERIKKKA!'
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Night10194 posted:The other thing that makes me think this is it is that he was trying to hype it by cancelling the original announcement due to 'security concerns'. "I can't say this from a balcony in case Killary KKKlinton chooses that exact moment to drone strike the Ecuadorian embassy in the middle of London."
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Oct 3, 2016 14:28
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truepundit is down what is the source supposedly from?
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Where did the original "there's gonna be a leak this week" rumor come from? Did Assange confirm it or is it just some Reddit posting? I'm curious if this is the leak, or if that's still coming, or if there's a real "leak" at all.
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"If we wanted to we totally could drone strike the Ecuadorean embassy in London. They wouldn't do poo poo. We're America and we can do whatever the gently caress we want." - Hillary Clinton -rt.com
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Harrow posted:Where did the original "there's gonna be a leak this week" rumor come from? Did Assange confirm it or is it just some Reddit posting? Some sleazy GOP types were hyping an "upcoming leak" up.
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Oct 3, 2016 14:33
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Night10194 posted:No wonder Assange thinks it's so devastating: It's about him. This. Also the Republicans love the idea of people like him being assassinated more than anybody, so lol at the idea of this hurting Clinton in any way. The only people it would offend are Lost Cause Bernouts who are
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sean10mm posted:The only people it would offend are Lost Cause Bernouts who are Let's be real: Voting for Stein/Johnson is functionally equivalent to not voting.
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I knew his tax returns would prove he wasn't even a 1%-er.
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Night10194 posted:The other thing that makes me think this is it is that he was trying to hype it by cancelling the original announcement due to 'security concerns'. He probably has another big email dump to release. It's probably all innocuous emails - like Hillary telling her staff not to be stupid like last time and to remember that she wanted chips, guacamole AND salsa, not just chips and guacamole. The mere fact that 1000s of emails get dumped will switch the headlines to "Another Clinton email leak" and make those who are not paying attention feel that there was more scandalous content on Hillary's wrong doings. The fact that Assange is planning to release it in the run up to the VP debate suggests he knows he doesn't have something earth-shattering. If he had something substantial he would let the debate coverage fizzle out and release something just in time to make the Thursday evening news, dominate the news on Friday, and then influence the next debate where Hillary has to use that as a stage to defend herself for the first time - and likely come out the loser.
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Oct 3, 2016 14:40
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Does the Secretary of State even have the authority to order a drone strike?
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i would vote for a president who supports drone-strikes on rapists.
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Conclusions posted:Does the Secretary of State even have the authority to order a drone strike? Are you talking about a generic SoS or specifically Iron Abuela?
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Reminder that a significant proportion of the people who will be upset by Clinton's joke probably supported Rand "I support drone striking suspects fleeing the police inside America" Paul in the Republican primary.
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Oct 3, 2016 14:48
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Conclusions posted:Does the Secretary of State even have the authority to order a drone strike?
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Conclusions posted:Does the Secretary of State even have the authority to order a drone strike? I'd genuinely like to know that too. Obviously Obama isn't supervising each strike, so who does? Some general? Some CIA directive? Some dude from middle management? Edit: Inferior Third Season posted:From what I've learned watching Homeland, the only people authorized to order drone strikes are the President and a middle-management attractive woman in her 30s. I guess the last one it is then.
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greatn posted:Trump in those stories is doing things that most men are guilty of, and if I'm being honest, I'm guilty of at different times in my life, it makes me very happy that this kind of behavior is being called out as wrong and bad. That's so over-the-top it'd be out of place in an episode of Mad Men.
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Conclusions posted:Does the Secretary of State even have the authority to order a drone strike? No. She isn't in the chain of command.
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Whenever leaks are foreshadowed, they inevitably turn out to be nothing. The real big leaks, like the old Trump tax returns, drop out of nowhere because they speak for themselves. Leaks that are set up beforehand are more like comic book teasers - "Next week, SOMEBODY DIES!" (turns out to be the X-Men's janitor)
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cant cook creole bream posted:I'd genuinely like to know that too. Obviously Obama isn't supervising each strike, so who does? Some general? Some CIA directive? Some dude from middle management? I thought one of the only really questionable things we discovered during the Clinton email investigation was that she ordered drone strikes through the private server. I may have that wrong.
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Farchanter posted:I thought one of the only really questionable things we discovered during the Clinton email investigation was that she ordered drone strikes through the private server. I may have that wrong. I think she notified the present workers one was about to happen
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https://twitter.com/jeneps/status/782942296748752896 Wall Street  , everybody.
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drat if only Scalia was still alive and he'd point out that immigration policy is clearly constitutionally the purview of the executive branch and the federal government and ahahaha yeah I'm sure Heritage already had his opinion written before he died
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iospace posted:https://twitter.com/jeneps/status/782942296748752896 With the Trump tax returns, everyone can see it going this way. About Wikileaks, clearly Clinton was speaking of drone striking Assad, but Assange just has to make everything about him.
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So Assange's would-be October Surprise is something Clinton might have said according to "sources"?
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vyelkin posted:Reminder that a significant proportion of the people who will be upset by Clinton's joke probably supported Rand "I support drone striking suspects fleeing the police inside America" Paul in the Republican primary. We Republicans liked mandatory insurance when it was done by a Republican. It's not the message, it's the messenger.
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Young Freud posted:About Wikileaks, clearly Clinton was speaking of drone striking Assad, but Assange just has to make everything about him. It was during and because of the cable leaks. Assad had nothing to do with that.
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