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My brother tells me nobody was sheltering in place at all in norcal, him and 80 of his fellow carpenters were on a construction job, nobody is wearing masks or anything. My mom is freaking out about him 
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Panfilo posted:My brother tells me nobody was sheltering in place at all in norcal, him and 80 of his fellow carpenters were on a construction job, nobody is wearing masks or anything. My mom is freaking out about him Alameda County is doing a (far from perfect, but) reasonable job.
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Apr 5, 2020 06:53
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xcheopis posted:Alameda County is doing a (far from perfect, but) reasonable job. From what I've seen in Oakland, most people are SIP, and maybe half of the people I see out and about are wearing masks in shops. Maybe 1/10 wearing masks outside. Lots of people doing dumb poo poo like crowding around Lake Merritt though.
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Apr 5, 2020 07:34
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If you actually have a proper mask to wear outside you're beyond lucky at this point. Best I can do is wrap a towel around my nose and mouth.
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Apr 5, 2020 08:11
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Tests in LA are still taking 6+ days to come back if they even give you one... There are essential workers being forced home (with minor symptoms) and having to wait weeks to get cleared before they can come back and if the test is negative they've just burned a lot of sick time waiting around.
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Apr 5, 2020 08:20
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HolHorsejob posted:From what I've seen in Oakland, most people are SIP, and maybe half of the people I see out and about are wearing masks in shops. Maybe 1/10 wearing masks outside. Well it is Lake Merritt, there's probably a lot of people like me that just take a walk around it every day for lunch or after work to break the tedium. Also yeah I'm not bothering with masks or face coverings. I wear gloves, wash my hands when I get home, wash produce and move takeout into different containers before eating. It's not a rigorous scheme but it doesn't really need to be - that's why we have SIP. The goal is not to avoid ever getting the virus, but to move back when you get it as much as possible.
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Apr 5, 2020 08:34
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Riverside County Mandates Face Coverings in Public, Bans Outside Gatherings https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/coronavirus/riverside-county-mandates-face-coverings-in-public-bans-outside-gatherings/2340950/ good.
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Apr 5, 2020 08:41
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Aeka 2.0 posted:Riverside County Mandates Face Coverings in Public, Bans Outside Gatherings I'm glad that they're mandating businesses give employees masks, but where is everyone else supposed to get masks? If some random business that managed to worm its way into being "essential" closes because they can't provide employees masks, then ok. But some people still have to go outside for groceries. I would like the mask requirement more if Riverside had some plan for distributing masks outside of the market (which is clearly not up to the task). E: the language is vague - just "face covering". So I imagine people could come up with ad hoc solutions. America Inc. fucked around with this message at 09:03 on Apr 5, 2020 |
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Apr 5, 2020 08:53
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At work, the advice we were given was: Surgical masks in the office is fine*, also if you'll be in close quarters. Fabric masks, bandanas and such, for generally being out and about. *Stricter if spending more time with clients/direct service people.
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Apr 5, 2020 09:57
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The Aardvark posted:Also sold out of those! It's not like bandanas are the only thing you can put over your face lol. Scarfs, shirts, towels, whatever, will make you and those around you slightly more safe. Might as well, if you can. I have gone to the grocery store and pharmacy a couple times, and most people dont have PPE, just like most people in most other places I've been (was in Oakland chinatown a few days ago and like 80% of people had masks, and it was maybe around 40% in downtown, but around grand lake/adams point/lake merritt it was more like 10%. Saw several people with bandanas). But it's not like i'd blame employees, i'd blame bosses that are ignorant or dont care about informing their workers about things, and even more i'd blame the government for being unprepared to deal with this poo poo and not informing people of what they should do. And of actively making things worse for profit. Same with all these private hospitals where management were (still are?) ordering nurses and doctors not to wear their own PPE, under threat of termination, because they didn't supply enough, and don't want only a few of the people to have it, thus making the bosses/company look bad, or whatever the excuse is. Sydin posted:If you actually have a proper mask to wear outside you're beyond lucky at this point. Best I can do is wrap a towel around my nose and mouth. I was given an n95 mask in 2017 when there was one of those big rear end wildfires in Nor Cal. It's old and used, and surely not as effective as when it was new, but i'm lucky to have it. Rah! fucked around with this message at 10:51 on Apr 5, 2020 |
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Apr 5, 2020 10:48
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Bandanas are fine because the purpose is to reduce the amount of viruses you are spewing out onto everyone saying you.
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Apr 5, 2020 14:38
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Masks are good and should be worn. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZtEX2-n2Hc
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Apr 5, 2020 14:48
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I have an n95 mask from the semi-recent Ventura fires and I feel like an rear end in a top hat using it.
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Apr 5, 2020 16:12
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Alec Eiffel posted:I have an n95 mask from the semi-recent Ventura fires and I feel like an rear end in a top hat using it. You’d be a bigger rear end in a top hat for not wearing it tbh.
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Apr 5, 2020 16:13
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MarcusSA posted:You’d be a bigger rear end in a top hat for not wearing it tbh. I do. But I got some looks at the pharmacy!
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Apr 5, 2020 16:15
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Alec Eiffel posted:I do. But I got some looks at the pharmacy! People are assholes! More people need to be wearing masks.
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Apr 5, 2020 16:25
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Get a sharpie and write on it "gently caress OFF IVE HAD THIS SINCE FIRE SEASON"
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Apr 5, 2020 16:33
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N95 masks are not great to wear except for short periods when you will be in close contact with another person, such as a nurse caring for symptomatic patients or outreach workers at the encampments. A properly fitted N95 will lower the volume of oxygen you breathe in because it's filtering the air. If it isn't properly fitted or you keep moving it around to talk, etc., then it's effectively useless. Do not use N95 masks if you have breathing difficulties, e.g., asthma, unless otherwise instructed.
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Apr 5, 2020 17:41
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Yeah, I basically know not to touch or adjust my mask once I put it on. I try to adhere to best practices. Whattyagonnado
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Apr 5, 2020 18:00
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I have a handful of valved N99s left over from fire season, and they fit pretty well. I know they only do half the job, but at this point, I'll take what I can get. At least the weather it's been miserable outside most of the time, I feel less like I'm missing out.
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Apr 5, 2020 21:20
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xcheopis posted:N95 masks are not great to wear except for short periods when you will be in close contact with another person, such as a nurse caring for symptomatic patients or outreach workers at the encampments. A properly fitted N95 will lower the volume of oxygen you breathe in because it's filtering the air. If it isn't properly fitted or you keep moving it around to talk, etc., then it's effectively useless. its not useless even if fitted improperly, because it will still stop some of your spit from flying out onto surfaces and people, and stop their spit from hitting your mouth/nose, and will also help to keep you from touching your face as much, unless ur a dumbass or have extreme face itchyness or a lubed head, or have memory problems or something lol
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Apr 5, 2020 21:57
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Wish I lived in a functional society that had masks and instructions for use widely available to all instead of a vague pronouncement to spend money and navigate tons of conflicting information on the 24/7 Marketplace of Ideas.
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Apr 5, 2020 22:46
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Centrist Committee posted:Wish I lived in a functional society that had masks and instructions for use widely available to all instead of a vague pronouncement to spend money and navigate tons of conflicting information on the 24/7 Marketplace of Ideas. Yep. I can't remember the last time I could easily find clear, concise information by googling something. Every search result that comes up says more about a company's success with SEO than anything else.... That, and the algorithm always directing you away from arcane information (which I'm always searching for) to the most common search terms (which I'm never searching for)
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Apr 5, 2020 22:49
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HolHorsejob posted:Yep. I can't remember the last time I could easily find clear, concise information by googling something. Every search result that comes up says more about a company's success with SEO than anything else.... how about some ben shapiro videos?
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Apr 5, 2020 23:17
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Centrist Committee posted:Wish I lived in a functional society that had masks and instructions for use widely available to all instead of a vague pronouncement to spend money and navigate tons of conflicting information on the 24/7 Marketplace of Ideas. 
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CopperHound posted:Not linking because holy poo poo, this person does not need more views: Makes me wish I'd spent my praxis points on the integrated rebreather instead of breast implants
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Apr 6, 2020 02:53
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Sacramento on it's way to becoming a shadow federal government since DC is run by morons.
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Apr 6, 2020 03:06
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I wonder how to describe it if all 50 states collectively unionized on the issue?
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Apr 6, 2020 05:03
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Perhaps they could form some type of united organization for dealing with issues like this.
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Apr 6, 2020 05:08
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And maybe they could stock up on supplies in safe years and store it away in done kind of ... pile.
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Apr 6, 2020 05:28
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I don't think Newsom should really have to handle this himself. He should set policy and appoint someone to take care of it for him. Maybe he could found a whole government organization full of trained professionals and bureaucrats to see it through. Some kind of central group, or an administration. It would be a good idea I think
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Apr 6, 2020 06:06
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balkinize balkanize balzanize balkanize
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Apr 6, 2020 06:10
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Newsom realizes he'll never win a general election so he simply moves the de facto capital to Sacramento and takes over all federal government functions Skynet wins again
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Apr 6, 2020 06:13
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Personally I would find it hilarious is California decided to just say "gently caress it" and succeed from the nation. Imagine all the red states suddenly going bankrupt overnight when California stops sending them welfare money.
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Apr 6, 2020 06:49
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Gavbot has analyzed the forecasts and believes this action gains him 18.533% in Presidential Action points, with only a 0.28% loss of medical resources. 
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Apr 6, 2020 06:55
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Nation-state indeed. Literally doing the federal government's job. 
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Apr 6, 2020 07:10
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ratbert90 posted:Personally I would find it hilarious is California decided to just say "gently caress it" and succeed from the nation. Imagine all the red states suddenly going bankrupt overnight when California stops sending them welfare money. The odds of secessionism making a comeback after this plague is very high. Doesn’t mean anything will happen, but I definitely think the idea will start being bandied about seriously in California. I think the blue Northeast has too much pride in the idea of the US as an entity due to their history to push for an independent New England or New York though.
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Apr 6, 2020 17:29
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If California secession comes up on the ballot I'm gonna vote for it.
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Should California remain a member of the United States of America or leave the United States of America? ☐ Remain a member of the United States of America ☒ Leave the United States of America 
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