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Real hurthling! posted:you'd think an occupation pr dude would have been prepared not to step into the obvious trap he fell into there about who has a right to land but i suppose hes far gone enough to be that blind a lot of these PR types are actually really bad at it because they're not used to facing pushback in interviews. they expect the interviewer to smile and nod, throw softballs and then agree with whatever the answer is it's clear that the guy wasn't even thinking of how he'd handle the interviewer. he was busy trying to craft a message that was all things to everyone, in order to win over the most American Jews possible by simultaneously defending Bibi's far-right policies as an unpleasant necessity and praising them as a great idea he totally supports. the second the reporter notices that and starts trying to pin him down to a single position, rather than letting him go back and forth from one to the other whenever he pleases, it was over for him
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May 12, 2019 01:51
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Smirking_Serpent posted:https://www.newyorker.com/news/q-and-a/michael-oren-hangs-up-on-a-call-about-israel maintaining the territorial integrity of the Jewish homeland and the security of the people of Israel it's 16 words, totally different
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Smirking_Serpent posted:Exciting is the wrong word, but I'm definitely curious about how the American media, American politicians, and the Jewish diaspora is going to react when they finally take the mask off. they'll do what they're doing now israel just declared that the capital of palestine is actually their capital lol
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May 12, 2019 02:51
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Smirking_Serpent posted:https://www.newyorker.com/news/q-and-a/michael-oren-hangs-up-on-a-call-about-israel "The morality is maintaining the territorial integrity of the Jewish homeland and the security of the people of Israel." the elusive 19 word 14 words
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May 16, 2019 20:47
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May 16, 2019 21:00
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Lets talk Eurovision https://twitter.com/AliAbunimah/status/1130168169405014019
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May 19, 2019 18:58
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context needed for my american brain
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May 19, 2019 19:02
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Real hurthling! posted:context needed for my american brain There's an American Idol style show called Eurovision in which all the Euro countries send competitors to see who the final victor is. They're having it in Israel this year. I'm assuming Hatari is one of the performers and probably pulled out one of those Palestinian keffiyehs or something to show solidarity with Palestine. The one tweet is saying 'that's some bs they should have just boycotted the whole event' and the other says 'well, at least this way it is a news item.' E: looks like they pulled out a scarf thing that looks like Palestine's flag and says Palestine on it Moridin920 has issued a correction as of 19:28 on May 19, 2019 |
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May 19, 2019 19:14
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Why should anyone complain about what Hatari did when no one else, beside Madonna apparently, did anything? (As far as this American knows, anyway.)
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May 19, 2019 19:19
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https://twitter.com/AJENews/status/1130058046116388865 this was actually kushner's deal of the century
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May 19, 2019 19:29
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madonna portrays the status quo of large israel holding small palestines hands captive behind its back
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May 19, 2019 19:32
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lots of artists boycotted the whole affair and it got far less cumulative coverage than this rando icelandic gimp group so i don't buy that argument tbh they could have pulled out after winning the icelandic contest, but honestly refusing to go the the competition that you won another competition to join on grounds previously established might just have opened them to charges of hypocrisy also lol that madonna's incredibly milquetoast statement attracts so much ire
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May 19, 2019 19:41
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May 19, 2019 21:15
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the Trump administration released step 1 of Kushner's grand Mideast peace plan last weekend if you haven't heard of it, it's because it was so pathetic that it didn't even inspire the usual wave of "maybe peace will happen this time???" articles https://mobile.twitter.com/rafsanchez/status/1130177528117768193 https://mobile.twitter.com/rafsanchez/status/1130179664717205508 it's basically just dangling the lure of Western investment as a carrot, in hopes that maybe the Palestinians will be more willing to make political concessions if Kushner dangles a substantial bribe (in the form of low-interest loans and foreign factories, of course) first https://mobile.twitter.com/WesternPub/status/1131209927295422466 https://mobile.twitter.com/RubensteinAdam/status/1130191397091516416 it's not going over well. even US mainstream media, which is usually happy to puff up lovely one-sided American "peace plans", is openly panning it
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I find it extremely entertaining that Jared Kushner, with no qualifications other than is married to POTUS' daughter and has tons of business deals happening in Saudi Arabia, is in charge of brokering peace between Israel and Palestine. Like that's how little they give a gently caress actually despite the trumpets back home.
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May 22, 2019 16:51
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sure make some new factories in palestine, right before israel bombs them
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May 22, 2019 18:06
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Haaretz posted:Israeli Army Blamed Palestinians for Arson by Settlers. Then a Video Emerged https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news...-XqLgVvwf9Gc_HA
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May 23, 2019 23:58
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TIL: Israel trains the St. Paul, MN police department. 
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May 24, 2019 02:15
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i worked at camp mabry in austin in 2010 and we had a bunch of egyptian generals and colonels training there for a good couple weeks they probably never used whatever training they got. it's been quiet there in the last decade
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Tubgoat posted:TIL: Israel trains the St. Paul, MN police department. Israel trains a lot of police forces (that American citizens are no different than Palestinians). Big reason why BLM and Palestinian groups joined up in STL after Ferguson. e: oh the best story was ADL and another STL Jewish org forcing the state history museum to cancel a solidarity panel and telling the museum to call the cops on the protest that followed. https://www.riverfronttimes.com/newsblog/2015/03/27/mo-history-museum-contacted-jewish-group-before-nixing-ferguson-palestine-event https://electronicintifada.net/blogs/rania-khalek/israel-advocacy-group-pressured-missouri-museum-cancel-ferguson-palestine-event guidoanselmi has issued a correction as of 06:01 on May 24, 2019 |
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A 'friend' of mine shared this article today: The Truth About Serving In Gaza From An Israeli Soldier What are your thoughts on this? It seems like more of the same; a laughably flimsy exercise in apologetics with some shots at Breaking the Silence and other progressive organizations. But I do wonder how to approach its framing of the combat engineers' actions clearing Gazan civilians from buildings, "almost all" of which "had mortars or other weapons inside." This is another talking point you hear a lot from people who try to justify bombing civilians; from my seat of the pants understanding it seems to make sense that with massive population density and limited military infrastructure you're going to see a few mortars and other hardware sitting around in civilian buildings... but that's not really much of a rebuttal. Not like this tripe warrants more than a laugh react, anyway - I've got half a mind to post that Angry Flower comic and move on. The 'friend' who posted this joined the IDF voluntarily, participated in OP: Cast Lead, then moved on to become 'head of security' at a diamond mine in Vietnam. I'm pretty sure he's a sociopath.
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it's complete bullshit like, it's an incredibly obviously fake story by the time I reached the part where half his squad is killed trying to heroically stop the masked Hamas fighters from invading an Israeli kindergarten via the basement of a mosque, I was half expecting the story to somehow end with "and then everyone stood up and clapped" there's no framing to reject there. it's just racist propaganda, 100% pure fiction
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May 26, 2019 02:58
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thankfully their expertly trained mossad agents were able to activate bullet time and dodge all of the enemy fire to rescue the children before the bomb (a big bundle of dynamite with an alarm clock strapped to it) detonated
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Mister Speaker posted:A 'friend' of mine shared this article today: 2014 huh https://www.breakingthesilence.org.il/testimonies/database quote:catalog number: 867854 quote:catalog number: 783044 quote:catalog number: 864024 quote:catalog number: 663065 quote:catalog number: 659914 quote:catalog number: 250512 quote:catalog number: 470948 Moridin920 has issued a correction as of 04:20 on May 26, 2019 |
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But read any of this to an imperialist and all of this is made up, fake news, those clearly-marked international aid flour sacks really were terror cement! Death to imperialists (but especially America and Israel).
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Tubgoat posted:TIL: Israel trains the St. Paul, MN police department. What could they possibly learn from each other? Moridin920 posted:Every tank commander knew, and even the simple soldiers knew, that if something turns out to be not OK, they can say they saw something suspicious. They’ve got backup. They won’t ever be tried. Oh. 
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idf soldiers sprinkling cement next to the unarmed Palestinian they just killed
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I'm on the resolutions committee of my local DFL... whatever political subclassification (there is succ aplenty and I will convert it in the style of Cool Spot) and Jewish Voices for Peace had a form letter-type resolution to end St. Paul police department's training by Israel and I just went " WHAT THE gently caress."
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Bear Retrieval Unit posted:idf soldiers sprinkling cement next to the unarmed Palestinian they just killed lol
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lmaooooo Israeli elections might be coming up soon yes, again Bibi hasn't been able to form a coalition. the haredi parties and the secular right-wing parties are feuding and making conflicting demands. the deadline for forming a coalition is Wednesday, and if they fail to meet it, new elections will happen lest you get your hopes up, though, it seems that the opposition isn't doing much better. an opposition rally was held yesterday to protest the immunity bill Likud introduced. except that the centrist party running it "forgot" to invite the Arab parties. and when the Arab parties showed up anyway, several centrist MKs boycotted the event. gosh, I wonder why Likud keeps winning in other news, an Israeli police convoy withstood a brutal terrorist attack https://www.timesofisrael.com/police-settlers-hurl-rocks-and-slash-tires-of-response-force-in-west-bank/ quote:Dozens of masked settlers attacked a police convoy in the northern West Bank on Saturday afternoon, requiring security forces at the scene to request backup after far-right activists hurled stones at them and slashed the tires of their vehicles, authorities said.
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lol it should have been easier to form a coalition this time around is there a possibility of a minority government or a purple coalition with gantz
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Main Paineframe posted:lmaooooo im the untreated concussion because it was sabbath
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Tubgoat posted:I'm the far-right activists attacking Israeli police? yeah the settlers are nuts. if the police weren't there to facilitate a long-term ethnic cleansing, it would be another nakba overnight
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Tubgoat posted:I'm the far-right activists attacking Israeli police? it's weird that the police didn't start shooting everyone in sight
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Tubgoat posted:I'm the far-right activists attacking Israeli police? the Israeli police generally tolerate and facilitate far-right violence, but in return they demand a certain degree of control and cooperation, which the far-right hates sure, the Israeli police will happily escort a settler mob out to some Palestinian village to make sure no Israelis get injured as they riot and assault Palestinians, but the Israeli police don't really like it when the settlers go off and do it on their own and then come crying to the Israeli police later, so the most radical ones tend to get administrative sanctions slapped on them in an attempt to limit their freedom and keep them under control. the Israeli police also tend to put a limit on the amount of violence the settler mobs are allowed to do with IDF backing - vandalism, arson, and the occasional beating are fine even when an IDF soldier is standing right there watching them do it, but if they go much beyond that then the troops start firing tear gas and breaking up the fight. and while 90+% of settler violence cases are never acted against, the few cases that do get pursued generally result in the perpetrator finding out the hard way that many protections afforded by Israeli law aren't provided by the West Bank's military administration, which can do things like detain someone indefinitely without cause or ban people from entering an entire region of the West Bank. also, the far-right occasionally commits attacks against the IDF as revenge for perceived government bias against the settlement movement, such as shutting down settlements or prosecuting soldiers for war crimes and other stuff along those lines. they believe that the West Bank is theirs by divine right, and while they hate the Palestinians the most, they also hate the IDF and the Israeli government for not just annexing the West Bank right now and expelling the population. and since Israeli authorities have largely refrained from taking any real action against these groups, openly tolerating a certain amount of radical terrorism without complaint, these groups have been allowed to further radicalize to the point where they're biting the very hand that allowed them to grow. the overwhelming majority of settler terrorists are allowed to do as they please, but the very few who do end up facing punishment are seen as martyrs being unjustly prosecuted by the traitorous unholy government fun stuff!
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