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Captain Oblivious posted:You can't really have one without the other. Reynards wisdom is from the school of loving up. He's learned a lot the hard way but at the end of the day the dude is a scoundrel and a horn dog, and I say that with fondness. No, it's actually just a trope cribbed from My Animes to have a terrible, "comedic relief" stuffed animal sidekick that Tom managed to somehow turn into a semi-interesting character when in serious form. Reynard's plushie side is one of the worst aspects of the comic.
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Heavy Zed posted:That layout is ambiguous enough that Scott "Infinite Canvas" McCloud specifically called it out as something you should never do in Making Comics. As someone who reads Marvel's comics regularly, there's nothing wrong with this layout. You run the panels left to right (or reverse for those areas where you read that way), and you can divide them up vertically as well. So long the panel next to the divided panels is as tall as the sum of the divided panels. It makes it obvious that the divided panels are to be read top down, as otherwise you'd read the top one, then the large one, then have to go against the normal read direction to read the second smaller one. Old (60s) Marvel comics used to do it the backwards way, and even then they had an arrow between panels to guide your eyes before they dropped it.
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Dec 13, 2013 19:31
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Darth Windu posted:No, it's actually just a trope cribbed from My Animes to have a terrible, "comedic relief" stuffed animal sidekick that Tom managed to somehow turn into a semi-interesting character when in serious form. Reynard's plushie side is one of the worst aspects of the comic. Only if you're some weirdo who only thinks things are either "From My Animes" or "Not Anime" and that those two categories have anything to do with quality at all.
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Dec 13, 2013 19:44
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Back in the very old days, I must admit that seeing panels featuring Plush Reynardine posted in the webcomics thread did not make me want to read the comic, but it wasn't because of any animes, it was because I had horrible associations with other webcomics that featured cute sassy/perverted/violent mascots. Sluggy Freelance.... 
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Dec 13, 2013 19:47
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Darth Windu posted:No, it's actually just a trope cribbed from My Animes to have a terrible, "comedic relief" stuffed animal sidekick that Tom managed to somehow turn into a semi-interesting character when in serious form. Reynard's plushie side is one of the worst aspects of the comic. So, how does it feel to have every opinion you have be terrible?
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Dec 13, 2013 20:04
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ZenMasterBullshit posted:Only if you're some weirdo who only thinks things are either "From My Animes" or "Not Anime" and that those two categories have anything to do with quality at all. Nothing that is anime (because anime is a state of being and not just a term utilized to describe Japanese animation) is ever good, and you should only care and value serious important media stuff like hard fantasy, webcomics and DOTA.
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Dec 13, 2013 20:07
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Am I really behind the times, or has the thread as a whole not yet noticed that Annie in the Forest part 1 is up online? http://www.gunnerkrigg.com/extracomics
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thespaceinvader posted:Am I really behind the times, or has the thread as a whole not yet noticed that Annie in the Forest part 1 is up online? You are behind, as I believe the thread discussion for that occurred about a week ago.
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Darth Windu posted:No, it's actually just a trope cribbed from My Animes to have a terrible, "comedic relief" stuffed animal sidekick that Tom managed to somehow turn into a semi-interesting character when in serious form. Reynard's plushie side is one of the worst aspects of the comic. Reynard is a character from European folklore who spent much of the poems about him being a dick, up to and including being a horny jackass. One tale has him send Ysengrin off on some wild goose chase while he has sex with Ysengrin's wife.
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Dec 13, 2013 22:40
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Ugh, mythology is the worst. So goddamn anime.  (i'm usually hyper-critical of this sort of thing but reynard is fine you goof) Cloche fucked around with this message at 22:44 on Dec 13, 2013 |
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Dec 13, 2013 22:42
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Dr Pepper posted:Reynard is a character from European folklore who spent much of the poems about him being a dick, up to and including being a horny jackass.
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Cloche posted:Ugh, mythology is the worst. So goddamn anime. Darth Windu is a contrarian and I'm not entirely sure why he reads this thread or the comic. I'm also hyper-sensitive to "funny" animal sidekicks, but the way that the other characters interact with him (not to mention the fact that that sort of stuff is only a part of his character) makes it way more tolerable. \/\/\/ It just means I go "ugh one of those" when I see them in media whereas a lot of other people seem to be fine with them. It's not one of those "trigger warning" things. \/\/\/ Portals fucked around with this message at 23:10 on Dec 13, 2013 |
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What does it mean to be "hyper-sensitive" to funny animal side kicks? Is this like one of those "trigger warning" things?
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SHISHKABOB posted:What does it mean to be "hyper-sensitive" to funny animal side kicks? Is this like one of those "trigger warning" things? It's more like thinking Pixar would be making way stronger films if they weren't jamming ninja horses and mentally disabled snowmen into every story.
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SHISHKABOB posted:What does it mean to be "hyper-sensitive" to funny animal side kicks? Is this like one of those "trigger warning" things? Don't make fun; the '90s were a trying time in animation and I'm not surprised to see people come out of it with a few scars. Also, your new avatar is adorable 
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Dec 13, 2013 23:15
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Renard's whole plushy/realistic dichotomy is way more interesting if you don't believe the whole "mind is nothing but a plaything of the body" thing.
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SHISHKABOB posted:What does it mean to be "hyper-sensitive" to funny animal side kicks? Is this like one of those "trigger warning" things? TW: ANIME, BARTOK, MID-90'S CEREAL MASCOTS It's not even just about the annoying cutesy sidekick thing, although that's pretty bad, but the whole "leering, mega-gross pervert"-esque character being treated as soo funny and wacky when they actually do some really deplorable stuff. I absolutely hate that kind of thing, but Reynard is pretty harmless and a really likeable character.
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Dec 13, 2013 23:22
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Razorwired posted:It's more like thinking Pixar would be making way stronger films if they weren't jamming ninja horses and mentally disabled snowmen into every story. I think you might be thinking of Dreamworks not Pixar.
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Razorwired posted:It's more like thinking Pixar would be making way stronger films if they weren't jamming ninja horses and mentally disabled snowmen into every story. Tangled and Frozen aren't Pixar. Captain Oblivious posted:I think you might be thinking of Dreamworks not Pixar. Not Dreamworks either. Just regular ol' Disney.
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Regy Rusty posted:Tangled and Frozen aren't Pixar. Ever since John Lasseter took over Disney Animation, this distinction became more or less meaningless.
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JT Jag posted:Literal or metaphorical wild goose chase? Metaphorical, I believe.
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Dr Pepper posted:Metaphorical, I believe.
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Dec 14, 2013 00:22
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They jynxed it. Annie soon really will do something that makes Kat hate her.
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Rita Repulsa posted:They jynxed it.
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Fecha posted:I dunno what she could even do. Set Paz on fire? Talk poo poo about Metal Gear Solid? She could do a bad cosplay of The Fury 
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Reveal that she's been copying Kat's homework without her knowledge or consent for years?
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Razorwired posted:It's more like thinking Pixar would be making way stronger films if they weren't jamming ninja horses and mentally disabled snowmen into every story. Neither Tangled or Frozen was made by Pixar.
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It was you, Annie! You stole the cookies from the cookie jar! Casull fucked around with this message at 04:41 on Dec 14, 2013 |
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Razorwired posted:It's more like thinking Pixar would be making way stronger films if they weren't jamming ninja horses and mentally disabled snowmen into every story.  Darth Windu posted:No, it's actually just a trope cribbed from My Animes to have a terrible, "comedic relief" stuffed animal sidekick that Tom managed to somehow turn into a semi-interesting character when in serious form. Reynard's plushie side is one of the worst aspects of the comic. Man if you can't enjoy it when something like this happens: http://www.gunnerkrigg.com/?p=1279 I don't know what to say
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Darth Windu posted:No, it's actually just a trope cribbed from My Animes to have a terrible, "comedic relief" stuffed animal sidekick that Tom managed to somehow turn into a semi-interesting character when in serious form. Reynard's plushie side is one of the worst aspects of the comic. The anime is coming from inside the head
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For the record I like plushy Renard and wouldn't put him in the same category as that goddamn snowman. But I could see how someone would be apprehensive about that side of the character for his first few strips. And if you read past those first few strips I don't know how wolf Rey gets a pass while plushy Rey is "too anime". Big all white fluffy wolf thing that follows the main character around is just anime as poo poo.
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So I was re-reading the comic, and I came across this early comic. That's still a really good line: "And the second was when a God emerged from Gillitie Wood." That line is when I realized that this comic was going to be good.
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idonotlikepeas posted:Reveal that she's been copying Kat's homework without her knowledge or consent for years? I must be the only person who just doesn't see that as a big deal. It's copying a bunch of homework, not plagiarizing a dissertation.
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GROVER CURES HOUSE posted:The anime is coming from inside the head Yes, I do watch some anime. I am a fan of many different sorts of media. Inspiration from anime is something that I don't necessarily see as a bad thing, but the fuzzy sidekick is incredibly tired and boring. Renard DOES get a pass because he is interesting and Tom is a good writer. You people seem to think I hate the character when I don't - I was just agreeing with the apprehension stated by the poster I quoted, and expanding that I liked Renard's perverted stuffed animal form much less than his wolf form - luckily, Tom seems to agree and only brings him out very rarely. I can think of at least four (terrible) anime stuffed animal sidekicks. Hell, that anime game about the killer bear was a subversion of that very trope. I can't think of any wise wolves who follow their friends around. Except Okami, I guess? VanSandman posted:Neither Tangled or Frozen was made by Pixar. Also stuff like this is hilarious, way to be a pedantic shithead and completely miss the point all fifteen people who responded in kind. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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ReidRansom posted:I must be the only person who just doesn't see that as a big deal. It's copying a bunch of homework, not plagiarizing a dissertation. Maybe have the Court punish Kat for Annie's cheating, since they don't seem to have much luck with punishing Annie. But ya, while I don't think Kat would be happy over the cheating, she'd probably forgive Annie.
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Darth Windu posted:way to be a pedantic shithead  But I really hope that when the cheating thing comes up, it isn't too big of a deal. I'd hate for that to be the source of a rift between those two.
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Darth Windu posted:Yes, I do watch some anime. I am a fan of many different sorts of media. Inspiration from anime is something that I don't necessarily see as a bad thing, but the fuzzy sidekick is incredibly tired and boring. Renard DOES get a pass because he is interesting and Tom is a good writer. You people seem to think I hate the character when I don't - I was just agreeing with the apprehension stated by the poster I quoted, and expanding that I liked Renard's perverted stuffed animal form much less than his wolf form - luckily, Tom seems to agree and only brings him out very rarely. I have no idea what you are talking about but wish you would stop. We don't need a second chibisoma moment.
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GROVER CURES HOUSE posted:We don't need a second chibisoma moment. I'm sorry for sounding like a scrub, but could you provide a link to this? I've been following this thread for a couple months now and it keeps coming up, but I have no idea where to look for it.
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Skippy McPants posted:I'm sorry for sounding like a scrub, but could you provide a link to this? I've been following this thread for a couple months now and it keeps coming up, but I have no idea where to look for it.
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