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Kuai posted:So wait the casual content that you can do at your own pace for a weapon that is as good as end game raiding ones takes a long time to get? It's crazy to me that poopsock hellgrinds are somehow considered casual now, is casual just synonymous with bad when it comes to FFXIV?
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Fishious posted:It's crazy to me that poopsock hellgrinds are somehow considered casual now, is casual just synonymous with bad when it comes to FFXIV? Casual has, at some point, split into three different meanings: "people with limited time to play", "people who aren't interested in difficult content", and "the 20,000 people who are somehow brickwalled by A4N, but are still trying". The first group hoped the relic would be for them, the second expected the relic would be for them, and the third got their relic.
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Dec 17, 2015 02:01
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SerCypher posted:It's really the thing that opened my eyes that this is not the ARR I fell in love with. There has been nothing new or interesting since HW came out, everything is just a rehash of older content. That makes sense for a game like Wow, but FFXIV isn't that old, you'd think they could still innovate a bit. I did the same. This game at present has two game modes: 1. Ridiculously difficult content that a tiny fraction of the players have cleared. 2. Endless tedium as you repeat the same trivial content over and over and over again. Something in the middle would be nice. Hell, I can't imagine the people who enjoy type 1 are having that much of a blast with only 4 bosses per 6 months.
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Fishious posted:It's crazy to me that poopsock hellgrinds are somehow considered casual now, is casual just synonymous with bad when it comes to FFXIV? see Iron Tusk posted:The alternative method is to wait a bit when the backlash forces them to make it not so horrible. only the phone call came from inside the house
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I am glad they unmasked the skinner box and the player base is finally mad, now all the wow nerds can take revenge on ffxiv players making comparisons to every feature in wow by making comparisons to how the legendary questlines in wow weren't so bad and how the garrison is way better than diadem and etc
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Dec 17, 2015 02:04
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Fishious posted:It's crazy to me that poopsock hellgrinds are somehow considered casual now, is casual just synonymous with bad when it comes to FFXIV? There are a lot of "casual" players that spend a lot more time playing the game than the hardcore autistic poopsock raiders.
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Dec 17, 2015 02:22
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It's very obvious that the daily quests are meant to be the drip feed casual option due to that it is very obviously paced the rewards so you will have 20 of each roughly around the time 3.2 launches. The amazing thing is that many genuinely casual players who joined the game recently, not people with a /playtime of hundreds of days who have been playing since 2.0 and avoid anything remotely challenging, don't have these tribes leveled at all so they're sort of hosed.
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Fishious posted:It's very obvious that the daily quests are meant to be the drip feed casual option due to that it is very obviously paced the rewards so you will have 20 of each roughly around the time 3.2 launches. The amazing thing is that many genuinely casual players who joined the game recently, not people with a /playtime of hundreds of days who have been playing since 2.0 and avoid anything remotely challenging, don't have these tribes leveled at all so they're sort of hosed. I don't understand why they wouldn't just make all the Beast quests give the reward. Would it really break the game if you could get 9 Sahagin rear end Tokens and 3 others in a day instead of 3 of all 4?
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since this new relic poo poo makes me wanna figure out how crafting is supposed to work in HW, share some stuff on how to make the 1stars? I have LTW / GSM / CUL specialist stones, and a kinda-melded crafting set (687 craftsmanship, 642 control, 368 CP) which I wanna know if I should try to get upgrades for or if I can actually make three of these pieces on my own?
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ArtIsResistance posted:The new Hildibrand quests suck because they do not have Hildibrand & are not funny. Hope you like serious anime drama What the gently caress Anyone able to confirm? This is some subscription-cancelling bullshit right here
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Dec 17, 2015 03:25
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Pyroxene Stigma posted:What the gently caress It has Briardien so there's the occasional bit of straightman humour but the story is intended to be a serious one instead. Also the scholasticate is basically the most anime high school so much so I expected one of the characters to say "Please notice me senpai."
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ActionZero posted:It has Briardien so there's the occasional bit of straightman humour but the story is intended to be a serious one instead. Also the scholasticate is basically the most anime high school so much so I expected one of the characters to say "Please notice me senpai." We better get a /briardy emote at the (eventual) end of this. 
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ActionZero posted:It has Briardien so there's the occasional bit of straightman humour but the story is intended to be a serious one instead. Also the scholasticate is basically the most anime high school so much so I expected one of the characters to say "Please notice me senpai." I'm okay with Briardien getting the spotlight, but not okay with it enough to resubscribe.  
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ilifinicus posted:since this new relic poo poo makes me wanna figure out how crafting is supposed to work in HW, share some stuff on how to make the 1stars? I have LTW / GSM / CUL specialist stones, and a kinda-melded crafting set (687 craftsmanship, 642 control, 368 CP) which I wanna know if I should try to get upgrades for or if I can actually make three of these pieces on my own? You cross-class the GSM skills to everyone and fish for Good procs for CP or Inner Quiet stacks for the first 15 steps.
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TheRagamuffin posted:We better get a /briardy emote at the (eventual) end of this. As long as it forces everyone within the zone to witness a dramatic closeup to my face as I adjust my glasses that'd be great.
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Dec 17, 2015 04:27
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Hildibrand is the Michael Scott of FFXIV. He's cringe-worthy, but he makes the characters around him much better, and without him they don't have energy to bounce off each other.
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I could deal with the beastman grind for the relic pieces just fine, if it weren't for the absolute bullshit crafting pieces. Those were bad enough for the Zodiac weapon, but this is just cruel and unusual.
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Dec 17, 2015 04:42
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Crafting is actually factually trivial. The materials are all easily gatherable and finding a specialist crafter is not rocket surgery.
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nuru posted:People seem to think their hellgrind is far too long to get a weapon equivalent (or better for some) than the weapon that comes from he hardest content in the game. To me it isn't the length of it, it''s that it requires a bunch of content I don't really have any interest in doing because it's terrible.
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The crafting mats are quite tame, the only remotely tricky part of the actual crafting process is that the recipes are specialist (otherwise they're level 60 1-star synths, which have reasonable gear requirements), and you have until you finish with the real grind to get the crafted stuff sorted out. So I did some napkin math on how I could personally pace myself without going crazy, and the results are: 39 days of old beast tribe dailies = 9 of each token 40 days of running Alex twice a day (that's 2 of one Alex floor per day, not 2 of each Alex floor per day) = 2 of each token Last 9 tokens, over 40 days, would require an average of 306 poetics and 306 law per day - Law will probably flow in faster than poetics, so Alex can be imbalanced in favor of the ones that substitute for poetics Running maps semi-regularly would reduce the poetics/law requirements, by an amount I can't calculate without knowing drop rates gently caress hunts, so allied seals are a non-option Vil fucked around with this message at 05:18 on Dec 17, 2015 |
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Vil posted:Running maps semi-regularly would reduce the poetics/law requirements, by an amount I can't calculate without knowing drop rates So far as I've seen, the word I would use to describe the drop rate is "abysmal".
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NuAtma drops seem kinda low, what's up with that? Also is the game only busted for me? I can't log in. edit: nvm, I think my internet's just making GBS threads the bed. Mehrunes fucked around with this message at 05:46 on Dec 17, 2015 |
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Wtfast works fine for me, but when I try to use ping zapper instead with heavensward specifying a custom game pointing at dx11 and ffxivboot with udp enabled i can never login (gives 2002). This is using Windows 10. Has anyone had any luck? I'm still getting 350+ ms at just that level3 router causing problems without one of them running.
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RPZip posted:I was all set to do this relic set, after skipping everything past the first step last expansion.
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Vil posted:gently caress hunts, so allied seals are a non-option Can't you at least do the 3 daily "regular mob" hunts and the weekly Rank A hunt (or does it turn into Rank S?) It's pretty painless and should give you some seals, at least.
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Zereth posted:I miss the very first steps to the i90 relic so much. I find it slightly amusing that the more fantastical the augmentations we make to the weapons, the more and more mundane the process becomes. We went from "go on a journey, slay these beasts, and reforge the weapon" to "go barter with a strange woman for some overpriced goods".
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totalnewbie posted:Can't you at least do the 3 daily "regular mob" hunts and the weekly Rank A hunt (or does it turn into Rank S?) It's pretty painless and should give you some seals, at least. You can, but this gives you all of 164 Allied Seals per day, plus 100 per week. So after 4 weeks you'll be 8 shy of 5 tokens. It's ... not a very effective method without also grabbing A ranks.
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Dec 17, 2015 07:39
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I'm about to give the trial a spin because I hate myself after not playing an MMO for a while. Anything particular I need to know or just go for it I can't really screw anything up anyway right?
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LethalGeek posted:I'm about to give the trial a spin because I hate myself after not playing an MMO for a while. Anything particular I need to know or just go for it I can't really screw anything up anyway right? Nothing you do in the early levels will hinder your character. The only kinda deciding factor in terms of class gearing is what you do with the weekly end-game currency used to purchase gear with but even that isn't going to lock you into anything. Also, if you care to, you can use one of these codes for Refer-A-Friend bonuses, like an exp-boosting helmet and tokens to buy leveling gear: S5EK7PN7 or 7GUAGRK6 Chyea fucked around with this message at 07:55 on Dec 17, 2015 |
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Dec 17, 2015 07:50
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This loving effect lol https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2IFk8Qux6Lo
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Mehrunes posted:NuAtma drops seem kinda low, what's up with that? I dunno, I got 7 crystals in like 2.5 hours of grinding. Like all RNG you get a drop 100% of the time you are lucky. As the biggest casual playing Final Fantasy Fourteen: A Realm Reborn: Heavensward the relic seems fine to me. I'm the sort of player who eventually wants to gear up/level up all jobs without ever touching savage raiding content. Anything I do in the game I expect to be finished with around the time heat death of the universe occurs. Meanwhile I play the game to chew fat with goons and spend time. Jeez it's just a game lol
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ActionZero posted:It has Briardien so there's the occasional bit of straightman humour but the story is intended to be a serious one instead. Also the scholasticate is basically the most anime high school so much so I expected one of the characters to say "Please notice me senpai." I was really disappointed. OTOH, the lag didn't seem so bad last night. If that holds up I'll probably stay subbed and at least work to complete my DRK AF set while I chip away at the relic.
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If nothing else, you can leave the atma quest active while you run FATEs with alts and possibly get them some mostly free i200 weapons once you get to 60. This is course assumes you haven't already farmed every Thordad weapon by now.
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It was nice of them to change the color of ground aoe back to something easier to see.
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Except it looks like rear end and doesn't actually help with the areas where aoe indicators where actually hard to see like Thordad.
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The old one was just as terrible for Thordan, but I think this one seems to be an improvement in the common case.
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Does it even affect a single AoE in the entire fight? The change only affects generic circle, line, and cone aoes. I don't think anything in Thordad uses those.
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It affects the meteor rain or whatever it's called.
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Fun fact: A1N has an HP trigger at about 23%. If you hit it the 0.5 comes out and all the adds vanish if they're still out. Also you can totally 1 tank 1 heal it.
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Guys help, I'm gearing up my first 60 and I'm having difficulty making gear choices. I'm a scholar and I have the 170 Law right side + a 200 eso ring and also the 185 dungeon drop right side. My left side is the crafted 185 sky pirate set and a 170 Law weapon. My question is: is the 185 plague doctor left side better than the crafted HQ sky pirate set and also would upgrading my right side to 180 be better than the 185 dungeon drop greens?
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