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TGLT
Aug 14, 2009

Jay Rust posted:

Is Trump pointing at the sun because he wants to fly into it? That never works out well!

Seriously, anyone who thinks Garrison is a good cartoonist should have to defend that comic. I assume he gave zero thoughts to the fact he basically just drew a variation of Icarus, but this time Icarus' dad warning him about the dangers is the bad stupid dumb guy now.

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Rugoberta Munchu
Jun 5, 2003

Do you want a hupyrolysege slcorpselong?

Jay Rust posted:

Is Trump pointing at the sun because he wants to fly into it? That never works out well!
Icarus only died because he didn't flap hard enough. Low energy.

ToxicSlurpee
Nov 5, 2003

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Pillbug

Pander posted:

Didn't we also ban that john k copycat who had no idea how to show motion or proportionality?

Not necessarily for his terrible views, but because his work was nausea-inducing.

If memory serves Barry just vanished off of the face of the internet. Like one day he just...stopped.

Erenthal
Jan 1, 2008

A relaxing walk in the woods
Grimey Drawer

ToxicSlurpee posted:

If memory serves Barry just vanished off of the face of the internet. Like one day he just...stopped.

If you like closely enough at his very last cartoon, you can make out a small human face, contorted and screaming, in the corner.

Help Im Alive
Nov 8, 2009


It bugs me probably more than it should that he's standing completely upright on the eagle instead of actually riding it

MrUnderbridge
Jun 25, 2011

What I love even more is how Trump and a bald eagle got along in real life!

Murdstone
Jun 14, 2005

I'm feeling Jimmy


I just can't help but see that Garrison as a bunch of people are really trying hard to stop Trump from destroying himself.

Electric Phantasm
Apr 7, 2011

YOSPOS

Shadow President Obama is the funniest bullshit.

Although it makes me sad because Obama is probably going to be a right wing boogie man forever.

Mercedes Colomar
Nov 1, 2008

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

ToxicSlurpee posted:

If memory serves Barry just vanished off of the face of the internet. Like one day he just...stopped.

This sounds about right.

Also jesus christ, Muir. What the gently caress is even happening.

ToxicSlurpee
Nov 5, 2003

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Pillbug

Manuel Calavera posted:

This sounds about right.

Also jesus christ, Muir. What the gently caress is even happening.

Mud? I think?

I decided to gaze into that abyss and all I could get out of it is "I guess they're naked in mud? For some reason?"

Selachian
Oct 9, 2012

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

Yikes

Muir's nudity has always been ugly but I don't think it's ever been this outright grotesque before. They look like they've been turned inside out.

I clicked back a couple pages and I think they were supposed to be mud-wrestling for some reason, y'know, like adults with children do all the time, which SORT of explains it but sure doesn't excuse it

Vib Rib
Jul 23, 2007

God damn this shit is
fuckin' re-dic-a-liss

🍖🍖😛🍖🍖
I like that Garrison's comic shows a bunch of awful forces trying to restrain, bind, and hold back the majestic bald eagle. Unlike Trump, who is literally riding standing on it, with a literal bit in its mouth.
If anything, Trump is depicted as shackling this symbol of America more literally and more aggressively than any other force. They're just touching or holding it, he's put actual restraints on it.

Erenthal
Jan 1, 2008

A relaxing walk in the woods
Grimey Drawer

loquacius posted:

Yikes

Muir's nudity has always been ugly but I don't think it's ever been this outright grotesque before. They look like they've been turned inside out.

I clicked back a couple pages and I think they were supposed to be mud-wrestling for some reason, y'know, like adults with children do all the time, which SORT of explains it but sure doesn't excuse it

I remember way way back in the old threads when Muir was drawing a slice of life comic with some tepid burns on liberals and actual honest to goodness translatable jokes. I usually really don't like to psychologize people with opposing political viewpoints, but something seriously broke in Muirs brain as the years went by, and we all watched it in slow motion.

Mantis42
Jul 26, 2010

Streak posted:

so muir's really gone off the deep end with the porn poo poo huh

Is it weird that I wasn't surprised by the cartoon porn and more by the fact that the main character of his comic looks like Sam Eliot, his dad also looks like Sam Eliot, and now Sam Eliot himself is visiting their dude ranch?

e: less surprised and more laffo I guess

Mantis42 fucked around with this message at 20:00 on Jul 4, 2017

Electric Phantasm
Apr 7, 2011

YOSPOS


Wait I just noticed who is the mysterious unlabeled arm that is pulling the tail feathers?

Also the random stars on the eagle.

Avirosb
Nov 21, 2016

Everyone makes pisstakes

Trump, ever the trash-talking Icarus wants to leave the planet - and by extension America - in favor of the Sun.
The sun - cleverly labeled 'America First' - is a fairly unattainable goal as far as destinations go.
In order to accomplish this, Trump subjugates and mistreats a giant bald eagle representing America.
It is not a happy journey, and Trump is visibly distraught over the length of his tie.

Meanwhile, Leftist judges can be seen picking away at the eagle's right wing, symbolizing right-wing policies.
The Globalist Deep State, Gaia's protector and one of the more benign elder gods, rises from the ocean to save the eagle from this foolish quest.
Fraud News CNN clearly don't want Trump to leave as the guy is a virtual treasure-trove of headlines.

Obama is being a huge debbie downer as always.

Alhazred
Feb 16, 2011




Mantis42 posted:

Is it weird that I wasn't surprised by the cartoon porn and more by the fact that the main character of his comic looks like Sam Eliot, his dad also looks like Sam Eliot, and now Sam Eliot himself is visiting their dude ranch?

e: less surprised and more laffo I guess

Can Sam Elliot theoretically (he probably doesn't know or care that he is "starring" in DBD) send Muir a cease and desist?

Abyssal Squid
Jul 24, 2003


"I'm pretty comfortable myself, could you stop complaining about your own problems? It's irritating."

F_Shit_Fitzgerald
Feb 2, 2017




Icarus flew too close to the sun and got burned up. AGC.

F_Shit_Fitzgerald fucked around with this message at 21:12 on Jul 4, 2017

By popular demand
Jul 17, 2007

IT *BZZT* WASP ME--
IT WASP ME ALL *BZZT* ALONG!


Welp that was more pornographic then I expected, why does Muir even bother adding faces? It's a lot easier to just grab a screenshot from pornhub and add some incomprehensible joke about liberals.

Neodoomium
Jun 20, 2001

You are now hearing this
noise in your head.



Electric Phantasm posted:

Shadow President Obama is the funniest bullshit.

Although it makes me sad because Obama is probably going to be a right wing boogie man forever.

Black people have been right wing boogeymen for all of American history so the first one elected President will endure for at least three times that


The fall of the American Empire, long since ground to dust in the ruined husk of Earth, will be blamed on Obama by Earth 3's Right Wingers

Neodoomium fucked around with this message at 21:16 on Jul 4, 2017

Sandpuppy
Jun 16, 2012

Social Abscess
of the
Universe

Horrible Lurkbeast posted:

Welp that was more pornographic then I expected, why does Muir even bother adding faces? It's a lot easier to just grab a screenshot from pornhub and add some incomprehensible joke about liberals.

I have to say I enjoyed the way his poorly drawn eyes on the traced mud wrestlers make it look like they've been shopped with googly eyes.

Electric Phantasm posted:

Also the random stars on the eagle.

I think those are supposed to be pain stars from having its feathers pulled.


1


2


3
If my town had light pollution like that, I'd probably turn to SomeGizmo as well.


4
A more accurate cartoon would have the elephant offering his back as Trump's chair.


5


6


7


8
Stop fighting! You're giving Antarctica diarrhea!


9


10
#CowFartsMatter

Abyssal Squid
Jul 24, 2003

Sandpuppy posted:

10
#CowFartsMatter

Isn't this drawn by the Counterthink guy? Also this is a terrible argument to make if you're opposed to factory farming, because methane (greenhouse) emissions are a global, cumulative problem rather than a local concentration problem like canonical "pollutants." It doesn't matter if the cattle are grouped together or spread out, all that matters is the total amount of methane released. If anything, factory farming could conceivably include some kind of methane-capturing setup that you wouldn't get be able to put in a traditional pasture.

If you're going to argue that we should be raising fewer cattle to begin with, loving argue that! Of course if this is the Counterthink guy then he's argued both "cow milk is for cows, not people!" and "raw milk #1 chug raw milk every day" so I shouldn't expect him to make actual sane arguments. e: also it's mostly burps, rather than farts, for what little that matters.

Rebel Blob
Mar 1, 2008

Extinction for our time

loquacius posted:

I clicked back a couple pages and I think they were supposed to be mud-wrestling for some reason, y'know, like adults with children do all the time, which SORT of explains it but sure doesn't excuse it
So the story, far as I can figure it after some skimming, is that liberal sister is back on the ranch after being banished by the Muir-insert. She got permission from her sister, Muir-insert's wife, but Muir-insert was never told. When the liberal sister showed up in the middle of the night Muir-insert groped her in the dark thinking she was his wife. Liberal sister liked it and has been lusting after Muir-insert, while he was pissed with his wife for okaying her sister to come back to his ranch without his permission. So, naturally, he paddled his wife, who fully accepted it as an appropriate punishment. A nice wholesome story all around.

Rebel Blob fucked around with this message at 22:00 on Jul 4, 2017

By popular demand
Jul 17, 2007

IT *BZZT* WASP ME--
IT WASP ME ALL *BZZT* ALONG!


He should really switch to doing awful Tumblr erotica.

Fulchrum
Apr 16, 2013

by R. Guyovich
You people have real bad issues.

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

Rebel Blob posted:

So the story, far as I can figure it after some skimming, is that liberal sister is back on the ranch after being banished by the Muir-insert. She got permission from her sister, Muir-insert's wife, but Muir-insert was never told. When the liberal sister showed up in the middle of the night Muir-insert groped her in the dark thinking she was his wife. Liberal sister liked it and has been lusting after Muir-insert, while he was pissed with his wife for okaying her sister to come back to his ranch without his permission. So, naturally, he paddled his wife, who fully accepted it as an appropriate punishment. A nice wholesome story all around.

I actually remember this storyline from the last time DBD came up ITT, and it makes sense considering the thing that got DBD banned was anal rape being fully accepted as an appropriate punishment for bad political opinions.

Not sure how it led to mud wrestling though

Cat Puke
Apr 15, 2017
I... I agree with fulcrum.

Ague Proof
Jun 5, 2014

they told me
I was everything

cant cook creole bream
Aug 15, 2011
I think Fahrenheit is better for weather

Benny, you're slipping. Where is the shoe? Did you forgot the shoe? I'm starting to think it's not important to you. Clinton lost a shoe once. How can you ignore that? Maybe you were the swamp all along!
Compared to his usual overcrowded pictures, this one seems really boring.

Abyssal Squid posted:

Isn't this drawn by the Counterthink guy? Also this is a terrible argument to make if you're opposed to factory farming, because methane (greenhouse) emissions are a global, cumulative problem rather than a local concentration problem like canonical "pollutants." It doesn't matter if the cattle are grouped together or spread out, all that matters is the total amount of methane released. If anything, factory farming could conceivably include some kind of methane-capturing setup that you wouldn't get be able to put in a traditional pasture.

If you're going to argue that we should be raising fewer cattle to begin with, loving argue that! Of course if this is the Counterthink guy then he's argued both "cow milk is for cows, not people!" and "raw milk #1 chug raw milk every day" so I shouldn't expect him to make actual sane arguments. e: also it's mostly burps, rather than farts, for what little that matters.
I was going to say that industrialized cattle farming actually reduces green house gasses, since it is based on food which is slightly easier to digest than grass and because it allows to slaughter cows faster.
But I wanted to source that. But while I found studies who said exactly that, there were also some which claimed the exact opposite. Now I realize that I have no real clue about this.

Both seem kinda plausible. But I don't even know how you would make a scientific comparison there. Do you put both sets of cows into a giant tent and regularly suck out all the the excess gas?

cant cook creole bream fucked around with this message at 22:28 on Jul 4, 2017

ToxicSlurpee
Nov 5, 2003

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cant cook creole bream posted:

I was going to say that industrialized cattle farming actually reduces green house gasses, since it is based on food which is slightly easier to digest than grass and because it allows to slaughter cows faster.
But I wanted to source that. But while I found studies who said exactly that, there were also some which claimed the exact opposite. Now I realize that I have no real clue about this.

Both seem kinda plausible. But I don't even know how you would make a scientific comparison there. Do you put both sets of cows into a giant tent and regularly suck out all the the excess gas?

Cows fart out methane. It's a fact of cow farming; more beef = more methane. End of story. Methane is a greenhouse gas so more methane is bad.

Factory farming generally relies heavily on corn. Corn farming in the U.S. relies heavily on spraying gently caress loads of ammonia all over the corn fields every year. Ammonia production creates greenhouse gasses too; I think it's like 1% entirely by itself.

As an aside a poo poo load of that ammonia doesn't stick around in the dirt. It washes into the rivers and eventually the Gulf of Mexico where it is creating massive algae blooms that lead to large areas of dead, anoxic ocean. That is loving up the shrimp industry something fierce as well as fishing there in general.

Scaramouche
Mar 26, 2001

SPACE FACE! SPACE FACE!


Every time I see a cartoon of the framing I want to see Bagleys adorable Founding Father's as dogs cartoon now.

Internet Kraken
Apr 24, 2010

slightly amused

Erenthal posted:

If you like closely enough at his very last cartoon, you can make out a small human face, contorted and screaming, in the corner.

That's just your reflection.

Grimdude
Sep 25, 2006

It was a shame how he carried on

Hahahaha

How does a person get so god drat delusional? Hahaha

Brass Key
Sep 15, 2007

Attention! Something tremendous has happened!

Meanwhile, his actual interactions with a bald eagle...



More and more I think a bald eagle with a crippled left wing, named Uncle Sam, striking at Trump as he tries to mess with it was prophetic.

Abyssal Squid
Jul 24, 2003

ToxicSlurpee posted:

Cows fart out methane. It's a fact of cow farming; more beef = more methane. End of story. Methane is a greenhouse gas so more methane is bad.

Factory farming generally relies heavily on corn. Corn farming in the U.S. relies heavily on spraying gently caress loads of ammonia all over the corn fields every year. Ammonia production creates greenhouse gasses too; I think it's like 1% entirely by itself.

As an aside a poo poo load of that ammonia doesn't stick around in the dirt. It washes into the rivers and eventually the Gulf of Mexico where it is creating massive algae blooms that lead to large areas of dead, anoxic ocean. That is loving up the shrimp industry something fierce as well as fishing there in general.

Don't get me wrong, factory farming is horrible on a thousand levels, it's just that the cartoon doesn't argue any of those and instead goes with one of the very few issues where there's actually a case to be made in favor of factory farming (even if not a very strong one). At best you could argue that factory farms allow us to support an unsustainable livestock population, which I'd agree with, but it doesn't follow that replacing factory farms with traditional pasturing is the solution. If that were your only consideration, it would make more sense to keep using factory farms but have fewer of them.

It just irritates me to see this because they were so close! When it comes to sulfur and sewage and similar "canonical" pollutants, population density absolutely does matter and factory farms are in fact a nightmare there! But you didn't argue that point, you went out of your way to make sure we knew that you were arguing a different point!!!! I'm salty about cartoon farts!!!!!!

Gazpacho
Jun 18, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
Slippery Tilde

Cloud Potato
Jan 9, 2011

"I'm... happy!"
:britain:

Guardian:

"Martin Rowson on the Conservatives and public sector pay – Boris Johnson and Michael Gove join those putting pressure on Theresa May to rethink austerity"

Telegraph:


Independent:


Times:

White House says Donald Trump will not make snap visit to UK

Evening Standard:

North Korea claims successful test of intercontinental ballistic missile

Mail:
Mac on... Queuing for tickets at Wimbledon

'For heaven's sake, Gerald, listen! Up a bit and to the left!'

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Post 9-11 User
Apr 14, 2010
People commented for years that Muir was tracing porn: some of the weird poo poo he's selling are various images of the redhead character being hosed. :yikes:

Dying in this century means bequeathing multiple electronic devices with browser history that will make grieving family members sob without context.

Alhazred posted:

Can Sam Elliot theoretically (he probably doesn't know or care that he is "starring" in DBD) send Muir a cease and desist?

Maybe if he tried to sell Sam Elliot figurines but the comics are pretty well covered by parody case law.

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