Comfy Fleece Sweater posted:

Taima posted:

The "spends all day lifting metal" thing is so odd to me. You can be that dude who spends hours at the gym but that is more of a social thing. There is nothing making you do that, you can easily be in great shape working out honestly very little overall.

I wonder if people don't know that and that's why they don't even try to get in shape...

Literally 80% of being in shape is done by not doing things (namely, not eating too much) while keeping macros in check. The other 20% is lifting and cardio. And honestly until you're close to middle age, you don't even really need to do macros as long as you hit protein. And you can be in very good overall shape by doing a pre-determined set of lifts that take no more than 30 mins a day, 2-3 days a week.

Even after that you can do fine just hitting proteins AND taking fiber supplements.

The human body is surprisingly adaptable and barely needs even basic care to keep it working in the majority of cases. It's just that most people can't even do that. I totally get it, life is hard. But ultimately fitness is mostly dictated by NOT engaging in behaviors, not engaging in them per se.

Btw not that it's any better or worse but that's not the full comic:



This doesn't ring true to me either though. Being in shape is super, super important to get basically all the best socially-awarded things in life (job, partner, even friends) I find the specific argument that no one cares to be absurd. Like by all means, look however you want but let's not act like there aren't incredibly important reasons to be in shape in basically all walks of life.

(also kinda funny that his "fat person dad bod" is actually amazing compared to what 90% of people look like without a shirt, but whatever)

It reminds me of this Andrew Rousso bit:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IC1sldjmNMQ

Laopooh posted:

Someone at my gym likes biting the fly machine. I'm going to find out who it is. I'm looking for someone who likes to bite!

Laopooh posted:

Someone at my gym likes biting the fly machine. I'm going to find out who it is. I'm looking for someone who likes to bite!

Taima posted:

The "spends all day lifting metal" thing is so odd to me. You can be that dude who spends hours at the gym but that is more of a social thing. There is nothing making you do that, you can easily be in great shape working out honestly very little overall.

I wonder if people don't know that and that's why they don't even try to get in shape...

Literally 80% of being in shape is done by not doing things (namely, not eating too much) while keeping macros in check. The other 20% is lifting and cardio. And honestly until you're close to middle age, you don't even really need to do macros as long as you hit protein. And you can be in very good overall shape by doing a pre-determined set of lifts that take no more than 30 mins a day, 2-3 days a week.

Even after that you can do fine just hitting proteins AND taking fiber supplements.

The human body is surprisingly adaptable and barely needs even basic care to keep it working in the majority of cases. It's just that most people can't even do that. I totally get it, life is hard. But ultimately fitness is mostly dictated by NOT engaging in behaviors, not engaging in them per se.

Btw not that it's any better or worse but that's not the full comic:



This doesn't ring true to me either though. Being in shape is super, super important to get basically all the best socially-awarded things in life (job, partner, even friends) I find the specific argument that no one cares to be absurd. Like by all means, look however you want but let's not act like there aren't incredibly important reasons to be in shape in basically all walks of life.

(also kinda funny that his "fat person dad bod" is actually amazing compared to what 90% of people look like without a shirt, but whatever)

It reminds me of this Andrew Rousso bit:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IC1sldjmNMQ

feelix posted:

I lift weights because I want to spend my 70s and 80s doing the same nerd poo poo I do now instead of dying on my bathroom floor because I've fallen and I can't get up

doverhog posted:

I lift weights because I replaced alcohol addiction with it and turns out it's a lot more useful as addictions go.

B-Rock452 posted:

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C05FzxEgBYf/?igsh=MXZvMzJseDdneWdicw==

This is pretty much me me... Had a complete mental breakdown after my wife was diagnosed with cancer a month after our youngest was born. Then she caught COVID while on chemo and had to get rapid responded in the emergency room she worked at. Signed up for a comp one night and well I'm still here. (Wife is also cancer free)

B-Rock452 posted:

Signed up for a comp one night and well I'm still here. (Wife is also cancer free)

DJ Fuckboy Supreme posted:

Double hell yeah from me, too.

Having seen the full comic I'm on board. What we do with our stupid bodies is our own stupid decision, and in an emotionally healthy world (sad lol) nobody would judge us on our appearance. Instead, we belittle what is different from "social standards" and we other bodies whose shapes we consider undesirable because of our belief in the validity of those social standards. We create artists who try to raise awareness about body image and then make fun of them because their ideas contradict our own.

Taima, I know we currently live IN A SOCIETY that places emphasis on appearance. This is because we continue to persist in the belief of the necessity of those systems, and participate in the reinforcement of those systems when we say things like "being good- looking/in shape is incredibly important to getting the best things in life."

That'll be a hard gently caress no from me on reinforcing those norms. We're not going to change until we begin to challenge those thoughts. Until we shift focus to the effort placed into fitness as being the goal rather than how one looks after X period of effort, we'll continue to have toxic, harmful beliefs about physical fitness.

B-Rock452 posted:

My view on the comic is as I've climbed up the strongman ranks I've honestly gotten a new appreciation for people who are really really good at things. I don't think I ever appreciated the amount of work an artist puts into their art, how many countless hours are spent toiling away on stuff that no one will ever see. Writers that write thousands of words that get thrown out and they get right back into it. I never appreciated it cause I never put the effort into getting as good as I could be at something before. It's not about how I look, it's about perfecting my craft and being the best at it I can be. And anyone who does that, regardless of what that craft is I just love it. Pick something and become the best at it. Doesn't matter what it is. Mine just happens to be lifting rocks. You wanna be the best you can be at something ill support the hell out of you

DJ Fuckboy Supreme posted:

Triple hell yeah. I wish I was earlier than 41 years of age before I realized that effort is the goal, which in turn leads to output. At least I'm only 41, so I have plenty of effortful time remaining.

B-Rock452 posted:

I can assure you I don't like the comic, my point was effort put into the gym made me appreciate effort put in elsewhere. Like I said everyone should pick something and work their rear end off to be awesome at it.

Everyone should also strength train but that's beside the point

B-Rock452 posted:

I can assure you I don't like the comic, my point was effort put into the gym made me appreciate effort put in elsewhere. Like I said everyone should pick something and work their rear end off to be awesome at it.

Everyone should also strength train but that's beside the point

Mozi posted:

i decided not to react to the comic because i have nothing to prove to whoever the artist was

anyways, as someone nearly 40 who for the past ~38 years couldn't have given less of a poo poo about lifting heavy things and then putting them down again, lifting is actually a lot of fun because you're continually setting challenging yet achievable goals and knocking them out. as my body is healthier my mind is healthier as well. i got my diet under control and before i got to bed at night i get a little 'hey, nice' moment in front of the mirror. it's groovy and i recommend.

feelix posted:

I know you have the correct opinions about exercise, I wasn't talking to you, I was talking to the goon who wrote an essay that the comic is good, actually, because of society.

Buschmaki posted:

Sometimes when I'm in the gym I mutter things to myself like "Power is everything" or "The weak should be killed".

doverhog posted:

Also, perhaps you should relax a bit more. I like to get hyped up too but there are healthier ways to do it than "I want all the power so I can kill the weak".

LordArgh posted:

i'm entering the second half of my 30s and my peers are starting to crumble, but i feel great. resistance training is good, friends

LordArgh posted:

i'm entering the second half of my 30s and my peers are starting to crumble, but i feel great. resistance training is good, friends

Batterypowered7 posted:

Has anyone made a "while you were at the gym I was studying the blade" joke yet?

doverhog posted:

Also, perhaps you should relax a bit more. I like to get hyped up too but there are healthier ways to do it than "I want all the power so I can kill the weak".

LordArgh posted:

i'm entering the second half of my 30s and my peers are starting to crumble, but i feel great. resistance training is good, friends