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When did the Metallica logo start trying to transform into the Voivod logo, and why did it stop?
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Death magnetic was so long in a way that felt manufactured, like "make the songs long" was a bullet point, something on a checklist to mark off, and as multimillionaire over the hill artists do, phoned it in by repeating riffs and the chorus where it's entirely uneceasary and the entire album really really really really suffers for it.
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Aug 19, 2016 03:28
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I anticipate it'll be the shortest song on the album because lol at 2 discs for 12 songs. Like, I really like stoner metal stuff, and a lot of the time those songs are 10+ min long, but they keep it interesting and moving along. poo poo, Yobs "Marrow" is 20+min and its never a chore to listen to it. Dopesmoker is an hour and while you kinda have to choose when to settle in and listen to it, its not like theres any part of it I want to skip. Metallicas last 2 albums (excluding Lulu) have been full of songs that hang on to riffs for way too long and go around in circles with nothing interesting being done or said. Maybe because hetfield is like 50 now and still writing lyrics that a 20 year old would but without the anger in his voice? Master of puppets can be 8min long because its got dynamic. St anger is a long dry fart for like 7 minutes that does nothing and goes nowhere. Any of the songs on the last two albums could have each songs composition divided by two and it would be so much more listenable - not really 'better', but at least you wouldnt say 'well gently caress for the next 7 minutes I have to listen to this?' and hit the skip button.
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Aug 19, 2016 03:29
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Chromatic posted:Metallca posted a new song Absolutely nothing interesting going on here, the bulk of this is better off as that tried and true metal meme: The 30-second lead-in before a band does the "real" song. Their mixing also continues to be grating and somehow overdone while attempting to be "raw."
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Aug 19, 2016 04:52
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xzzy posted:That's fine, I just want to be able to enjoy the groove for ~5 minutes even if stuff gets repeated. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2EGKt8yONI
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Aug 19, 2016 05:20
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That track sounds like an extremely lazy and toothless approximation of their sound in the 80s It basically sounds like Dave Grohl aping Metallica
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Aug 19, 2016 09:40
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gently caress Metallica right up their obsolete, irrelevant asses. Here's some new Running Wild. It's bogstandard Running Wild, and as such about five times more interesting than Metallica. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFmX-CqzKW4
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Aug 19, 2016 10:00
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Nordick posted:five times more interesting than Metallica. I get what you're trying to say here, but 5 times 0 is still 0 
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Aug 19, 2016 10:06
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The bass drum in that metallica song sounds lovely. Generic song, not bad, not good. Very clean production, sterile.
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Aug 19, 2016 10:39
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-diCM69_rA
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Aug 19, 2016 12:44
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hopterque posted:The new Be'lakor is extremely, extremely good if you're looking for melo death stuff. From a few pages ago but thanks for reminding me about Be'lakor, the new one rips. More melodeath that owns: The Absence https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VS3QeWiKumk especially the bit from ~2:49-4:25, gives me goosebumps every time https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lU9PLT9hJI
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Aug 19, 2016 14:15
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York_M_Chan posted:Sorry if it has been posted but I discoered Zeal and Ardor yesterday and can't stop listening: I won't rest until "have you heard this band Zeal and Ardor?" becomes the new "have you heard about this band Ghost?". I guess I'm just a sucker for catchy, scary satanic gimmick music.
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Aug 19, 2016 15:03
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Zeal and Ardor is a pretty natural progression out of black metal-influenced white trash alt-country like The Goddamn Gallows but it coming from NYC is kind of surprising
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Aug 19, 2016 16:44
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That Metallica song doesn't do anything new, but neither does 99% of black/death metal which most of this thread drools over, so idk what the big deal is. 5/10, would listen to Hardwired again on Pandora if it came up
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Aug 19, 2016 17:15
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This poster loves police brutality, but only when its against minorities!
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Yeah on the one hand, I kinda agree with the "if it wasn't Metallica nobody would care about this song" comments. On the other hand, I see people going gaga over bands that aren't Metallica writing basically that song all the loving time, so in a weird way it seems like they're kind of being held to a higher standard despite the fact that everyone hates everything they've put for like two decades.
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Aug 19, 2016 17:25
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Vulture Culture posted:Zeal and Ardor is a pretty natural progression out of black metal-influenced white trash alt-country like The Goddamn Gallows but it coming from NYC is kind of surprising He's a NYC artist transplanted from Switzerland. 
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Aug 19, 2016 17:49
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DeusExMachinima posted:That Metallica song doesn't do anything new, but neither does 99% of black/death metal which most of this thread drools over, so idk what the big deal is. 5/10, would listen to Hardwired again on Pandora if it came up Stale and tired retread thrash is infinitely worse than Just Another Swedeath Band.
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Aug 19, 2016 18:39
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Guys remember how Opeth did that thing where they changed their sound and we were all like "Hey they should just go back to death metal"?
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Aug 19, 2016 18:59
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If Opeth still wrote good songs I don't think very many people would care that they aren't a death metal band anymore. This did give me the amusing mental image of a Mikael Akerfeldt interview 10 years in the future where he says he's been listening to a lot of My Arms, Your Hearse lately and think old-school fans will be really excited about the new album.
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Aug 19, 2016 19:05
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Vargatron posted:Guys remember how Opeth did that thing where they changed their sound and we were all like "Hey they should just go back to death metal"? That's because they aren't that great at writing prog rock.
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Aug 19, 2016 19:06
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Hulk Krogan posted:If Opeth still wrote good songs I don't think very many people would care that they aren't a death metal band anymore. Yeah, the problem with Opeth isn't the lack of metal, it's that Mikael Akerfeldt and Steve Wislon got together and felched eachother to the bone and now the only ideas left are the ones made of the mixed cum and poo poo juice.
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Aug 19, 2016 19:07
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See also... well, Metallica. They weren't wrong to try branching out, and it wasn't all bad in hindsight, but there's no denying where their strengths really lie.
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Aug 19, 2016 19:32
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Thought you guys might like this https://eneferens.bandcamp.com/album/the-inward-cold
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Aug 19, 2016 19:37
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I don't mind a band doing the same thing if it is a thing I enjoy. I just posted like 10 summoning links a week or so ago so that soapbox would dissolve under my feet. I just haven't heard anything from Metallica that I could get into since ...uh, justice I guess.
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Aug 19, 2016 19:45
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Faffel posted:Yeah, the problem with Opeth isn't the lack of metal, it's that Mikael Akerfeldt and Steve Wislon got together and felched eachother to the bone and now the only ideas left are the ones made of the mixed cum and poo poo juice.
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Aug 19, 2016 19:49
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El Gallinero Gros posted:Thought you guys might like this This is good.
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Aug 19, 2016 20:12
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One of Opeth's best songs isnt even metal (well, until the end). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybC6iBWLZ6k So it's not just people wanting them to go back to their old sound -- we want better written songs and not this wank Mikael's been spitting out for a while now.
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Aug 19, 2016 20:13
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 Also I kind of like that song.
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Aug 19, 2016 21:21
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How dare you compare that mess with arguably the best sludge album.
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Aug 19, 2016 21:30
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To Battle posted:How dare you compare that mess with arguably the best sludge album. Broken Glass is still a better record. There, I said it 
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Aug 19, 2016 22:16
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COOL CORN posted:The new Anaal Nathrakh song is completely loving me up right now. The vocals sound really different compared to the last few albums. But much like desideratum it's more of the same, which isn't inherently a bad thing, just unremarkable, and that's really the worst thing I have to say about it. The new album should be fun, I'd like to hear what else they do on the album.
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Aug 19, 2016 22:33
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Vargatron posted:Guys remember how Opeth did that thing where they changed their sound and we were all like "Hey they should just go back to death metal"? Yeah except Load and Reload were good. Idk about St Anger I guess. If In Flames went back to melodeath I'd be happy. Metallica is going back to thrash basically.
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Aug 19, 2016 22:39
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Load and Reload are good. St. Anger is very bad. Death Magnetic is in between.
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Aug 19, 2016 22:47
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If Death Magnetic had the same production/guitar/bass/drum tones as Puppets or Lightning think it would be much better. As it is now its just grating to listen to. This new song feels the same.
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Aug 19, 2016 22:58
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Load is my favorite Metallica album and I say that with no shame. I can't stand country music but Mama Said is just a terrific song. Reload is great, too. Devil's Dance? Ace track. Still, Death Magnetic was a really fun return to form despite the weird compression issues (I want a loving remaster of it asap) and I'm glad they're continuing with that with the new stuff. Hardwired owns and as someone who grew up as a Metallica brat it brought a smile to my face not least because I was listening to a new Metallica track like that in 2016. E: Mixed up a song like a dope. Stare-Out fucked around with this message at 23:11 on Aug 19, 2016 |
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Aug 19, 2016 23:08
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COOL CORN posted:The new Anaal Nathrakh song is completely loving me up right now. Not metal but to reference said vocal filtering: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHSBw7KefIQ Fenrir fucked around with this message at 23:36 on Aug 19, 2016 |
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Aug 19, 2016 23:31
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St. Anger has some truly awful moments on it. ...but in some ways, it's actually fairly original for Metallica. There's a lot of things on that album that they haven't done before or since (hurr...that snare). There are some killer riffs on St. Anger that are buried underneath that godawful snare drum. The problem is the songwriting which means that they overused each awesome riff about 12 times too many times. The songwriting sucks, but there's enough individual kickass moments on it to render it not awful. It doesn't hold a candle to their old stuff though. Something interesting that I've found about metal fans (that I'm guilty of too) is that for some bands, if they don't change things up, they get ridiculed for being the same and doing the same thing over and over again (Slayer, Maiden song-title choruses). But there are other bands where if they changed ANYTHING about what they do, people lose their loving minds (Opeth). You could argue it's the quality of the songwriting that's the main factor, but I'm not convinced.
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Aug 20, 2016 00:14
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H13 posted:Something interesting that I've found about metal fans (that I'm guilty of too) is that for some bands, if they don't change things up, they get ridiculed for being the same and doing the same thing over and over again (Slayer, Maiden song-title choruses). But there are other bands where if they changed ANYTHING about what they do, people lose their loving minds (Opeth). It's almost as though there are different groups of fans that like and care about different things
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Aug 20, 2016 00:19
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fatherdog posted:It's almost as though there are different groups of fans that like and care about different things This is what I mean by I'm guilty of it too. If Iron Maiden ever did anything REMOTELY different I would almost regard that as a personal insult. On the other hand, I kinda hate on Amon Amarth for doing the exact same thing every time. Go figure.
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Stare-Out posted:Still, Death Magnetic was a really fun return to form despite the weird compression issues (I want a loving remaster of it asap) and I'm glad they're continuing with that with the new stuff. It needs a little EQ and I'm not sure a lossless version exists, but seek out the Guitar Hero rip. There's really no other way to listen to the album (well, not without getting a headache). H13 posted:St. Anger has some truly awful moments on it. The guitar tone is really neat for a lot of it. But yeah, the songwriting is begging for a producer's intervention, and a lot of stuff that was done for the sake of "rawness" just sounds irredeemably awful.
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