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feelix: Nov 27, 2016; THE ONLY EXERCISE I AM UNFAMILIAR WITH IS EXERCISING MY ABILITY TO MAKE A POST PEOPLE WANT TO READ

Hellblazer187 posted:

Most of the evidence based guys say the same thing at this point - for most people just lift heavy, get 1-4 reps from failure in a 5-30 rep range, etc.

I have literally never seen Helms, Israetel, Henselmanns, whoever, say "you should do your inline at 70 degrees instead of 60" or anything really approaching that. Most of the stuff I see them post is about effort (working hard enough to get within 4 reps of failure) and volume.

Nippard says a lot of poo poo like that. Like a concrete example was recently I saw a YouTube short or something where he was talking about how you might think that incline press doesn't hit the lower pecs enough but a recent study... And I don't know what he said next because I turned it off

Meno and Israetel got somewhat close to it in their video about biceps curls but that one did have a useful message in telling you to include exercises that load the biceps in the lengthened position. On the other hand, that video is where I found out there is an exercise someone chose to call "Bayesian curls" which is an actual crime they should go to an actual jail for

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# ? May 31, 2024 04:18

Mozi: Apr 4, 2004; Forms change so fast
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B-Rock452 posted:

I stopped following Israetel because he posts absolutely batshit food combos sometimes in order to fit his macros.

he made what was in retrospect a joke video (?) about making pudding with casein protein (ingredients: chocolate-flavored casein, water)

i can tell you - just stick to shakes

edit: oh one actual useful actionable thing i got from one of his more recent interview videos is that .75g of protein per lb of bodyweight is completely sufficient for natural lifters (rather than the 1g/lb guideline most people go by). it's actually much nicer to aim for .75, frees up a lot of options for eating

Mozi fucked around with this message at 18:17 on May 14, 2024

# ? May 14, 2024 18:10

Hellblazer187: Oct 12, 2003

feelix posted:

Nippard says a lot of poo poo like that. Like a concrete example was recently I saw a YouTube short or something where he was talking about how you might think that incline press doesn't hit the lower pecs enough but a recent study... And I don't know what he said next because I turned it off

Meno and Israetel got somewhat close to it in their video about biceps curls but that one did have a useful message in telling you to include exercises that load the biceps in the lengthened position. On the other hand, that video is where I found out there is an exercise someone chose to call "Bayesian curls" which is an actual crime they should go to an actual jail for

agreed on all counts.

# ? May 14, 2024 19:03

Batterypowered7: Aug 8, 2009; The mist that chills you keeps me warm.

feelix posted:

Nippard says a lot of poo poo like that. Like a concrete example was recently I saw a YouTube short or something where he was talking about how you might think that incline press doesn't hit the lower pecs enough but a recent study... And I don't know what he said next because I turned it off

Meno and Israetel got somewhat close to it in their video about biceps curls but that one did have a useful message in telling you to include exercises that load the biceps in the lengthened position. On the other hand, that video is where I found out there is an exercise someone chose to call "Bayesian curls" which is an actual crime they should go to an actual jail for

You leave poor Jeff Nippley alone. He can't help himself!

# ? May 14, 2024 19:05

feelix: Nov 27, 2016; THE ONLY EXERCISE I AM UNFAMILIAR WITH IS EXERCISING MY ABILITY TO MAKE A POST PEOPLE WANT TO READ

Mozi posted:

edit: oh one actual useful actionable thing i got from one of his more recent interview videos is that .75g of protein per lb of bodyweight is completely sufficient for natural lifters (rather than the 1g/lb guideline most people go by). it's actually much nicer to aim for .75, frees up a lot of options for eating

Yeah this one is a huge deal that every gym goer should know about. Even on a diet, it's possible to eat only normal human meals (just making good high-protein choices) and still hit 0.75g/lb while staying within your calories. If you do 1.0, then you pretty much can't avoid using shakes or having some meals that are just protein

# ? May 14, 2024 19:09

Batterypowered7: Aug 8, 2009; The mist that chills you keeps me warm.

Normal Human Meals is an excellent restaurant name.

# ? May 14, 2024 19:17

ovenboy: Nov 16, 2014

Look at this dumbass: https://youtube.com/shorts/LzGch2ci20I?si=AyU2Wxk6A9IGnwWE
I was just going to do five sets of four, ending with an amrap set but I was so full of Spring Feelings or something that I decided to go for an 180kg single after the warmups. I kinda just gave up midway apparently

Edit: the five normal sets after that felt fine too, so I think I'll retry that soon with some proper preparation. And perhaps Summer Feelings.

ovenboy fucked around with this message at 20:56 on May 14, 2024

# ? May 14, 2024 20:48

TenementFunster: Feb 20, 2003; Can't post for 29 minutes!

DJ Fuckboy Supreme posted:

275 is a good lift drat

It's unreal how much a spot can help. One day I'll believe in myself as much as I believe my spotter will save me from a slow death by compression in case I gas out.

i hit 225 last february or so and i�m repping that like 6-8 times max per set. i just needed the smell of my boy�s nuts to motivate me to throw on some more weight

# ? May 14, 2024 21:02

Concatenation: Jul 23, 2005; Your human mentality cries out for vengeance and thrives on the violence you say you can hardly endure.

The problem I�ve always had with israetel�s training style (the RIR 3 - 1 progression) is that if you haven�t spent significant time training to hard failure, you have no idea what failure actually feels like and your RIR 3 is probably closer to RIR 8

# ? May 14, 2024 22:24

hot cocoa on the couch: Dec 8, 2009

Concatenation posted:

The problem I’ve always had with israetel’s training style (the RIR 3 - 1 progression) is that if you haven’t spent significant time training to hard failure, you have no idea what failure actually feels like and your RIR 3 is probably closer to RIR 8

he alludes to this in his strength series and suggests you spend a few months doing amraps to know for sure. i dunno what he says about rp stuff for hypertrophy cause i don't use it

# ? May 14, 2024 22:54

Dum Cumpster: Sep 12, 2003; *pozes your neghole*

Alls I know is thanks to dr mike now I understand that blowing up palestinian kids is good, actually

# ? May 14, 2024 22:57

hot cocoa on the couch: Dec 8, 2009

Dum Cumpster posted:

Alls I know is thanks to dr mike now I understand that blowing up palestinian kids is good, actually

lol thanks again for reminding me why i don't watch his opinion channel. i can only imagine

# ? May 14, 2024 22:58

DJ Fuckboy Supreme: Feb 10, 2011; And when you stare long into the abyss, you become aggressively, terminally chill

TenementFunster posted:

i hit 225 last february or so and i’m repping that like 6-8 times max per set. i just needed the smell of my boy’s nuts to motivate me to throw on some more weight

Sniffing nuts sounds easier than self-love, might just try that

# ? May 14, 2024 23:01

TenementFunster: Feb 20, 2003; Can't post for 29 minutes!

DJ Fuckboy Supreme posted:

Sniffing nuts sounds easier than self-love, might just try that

it�s the best part about getting a spot!

# ? May 14, 2024 23:02

Dum Cumpster: Sep 12, 2003; *pozes your neghole*

hot cocoa on the couch posted:

lol thanks again for reminding me why i don't watch his opinion channel. i can only imagine

I watched part of one of the early ones and extrapolated his opinion on the matter based on what I saw

# ? May 14, 2024 23:09

Chief McHeath: Apr 23, 2002; Can't post for 8 hours!

lol, he has a video, that i will not watch, called "How To Behave In Society"

he strikes me as the kind of guy that would be like "if black people don't want to get harassed by cops they just shouldn't go anywhere at night"

# ? May 14, 2024 23:32

Hellblazer187: Oct 12, 2003

On the subject of sciency exercise mans and their opinions on social issues, Jeff Nippard has pushed back against some of the transphobia in the community. So, good for him about that one.

# ? May 14, 2024 23:41

B-Rock452: Jan 6, 2005

Chief McHeath posted:

lol, he has a video, that i will not watch, called "How To Behave In Society"

he strikes me as the kind of guy that would be like "if black people don't want to get harassed by cops they just shouldn't go anywhere at night"

He has said before that his opinions on race would get him banned from academia so uhh take that for what you will. Really for the best not to look into the political opinions on most people in the fitness industry

# ? May 14, 2024 23:44

LanceHunter: Nov 12, 2016; Beautiful People Club

feelix posted:

He has a name, it's Mike Israetel, and he's a dumb libertarian rear end in a top hat that has almost entirely transitioned to posting useless YouTube clickbait

He still has some useful gems here and there like the video you mentioned, and his older stuff (before he ran out of basic, correct advice to cover and had to continue monetizing) is golden

btw, the entire last page is the exact loving derail I didn't want to start when I brought up the one entirely-fitness-related thing in my post. But you had to charge in and bring up that the completely-accurate, entirely-fitness-related statement happened to come out of the mouth of a guy who is kind of an rear end in a top hat, then point out who that specific rear end in a top hat is, and now we're here.

# ? May 15, 2024 00:17

Batterypowered7: Aug 8, 2009; The mist that chills you keeps me warm.

LanceHunter posted:

btw, the entire last page is the exact loving derail I didn't want to start when I brought up the one entirely-fitness-related thing in my post. But you had to charge in and bring up that the completely-accurate, entirely-fitness-related statement happened to come out of the mouth of a guy who is kind of an rear end in a top hat, then point out who that specific rear end in a top hat is, and now we're here.

Speaking of derails. Have you watched Band of Brothers, by any chance?

# ? May 15, 2024 00:40

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Chief McHeath posted:

lol, he has a video, that i will not watch, called "How To Behave In Society"

he strikes me as the kind of guy that would be like "if black people don't want to get harassed by cops they just shouldn't go anywhere at night"

He believes intelligence is an inherited trait

# ? May 15, 2024 00:48

Buschmaki: Dec 26, 2012; ‿︵‿︵‿︵‿Lean Addict︵‿︵‿︵‿

LanceHunter posted:

btw, the entire last page is the exact loving derail I didn't want to start when I brought up the one entirely-fitness-related thing in my post. But you had to charge in and bring up that the completely-accurate, entirely-fitness-related statement happened to come out of the mouth of a guy who is kind of an rear end in a top hat, then point out who that specific rear end in a top hat is, and now we're here.

whell instead of parroting some sorta pencil neck, how bout you just horsecock huge loads abd leavr it at dat...?

# ? May 15, 2024 00:49

TenementFunster: Feb 20, 2003; Can't post for 29 minutes!

Buschmaki posted:

He believes intelligence is an inherited trait

well i bet his dad is pretty loving dumb, too

# ? May 15, 2024 01:21

feelix: Nov 27, 2016; THE ONLY EXERCISE I AM UNFAMILIAR WITH IS EXERCISING MY ABILITY TO MAKE A POST PEOPLE WANT TO READ

LanceHunter posted:

btw, the entire last page is the exact loving derail I didn't want to start when I brought up the one entirely-fitness-related thing in my post. But you had to charge in and bring up that the completely-accurate, entirely-fitness-related statement happened to come out of the mouth of a guy who is kind of an rear end in a top hat, then point out who that specific rear end in a top hat is, and now we're here.

Welcome to GBS bitch

# ? May 15, 2024 01:22

Chief McHeath: Apr 23, 2002; Can't post for 8 hours!

my lats is gettin too wide gonna have to register myself as a airplane :madmax:

# ? May 15, 2024 02:00

doverhog: May 31, 2013; Defender of democracy and human rights 🇺🇦

Buschmaki posted:

you just horsecock huge loads

Is this some new lingo or do you just enjoy horses?

# ? May 16, 2024 23:10

Comfy Fleece Sweater: Apr 2, 2013; You see, but you do not observe.

Batterypowered7 posted:

Normal Human Meals is an excellent restaurant name.

Definitely not managed and staffed by raccoons in trenchcoats (never go in the back)

# ? May 23, 2024 06:27

Batterypowered7: Aug 8, 2009; The mist that chills you keeps me warm.

* does four sets of standing calf raises a week and nothing else * "Why aren't my calves getting any bigger?!"

# ? May 24, 2024 23:48

crackhaed: Jan 18, 2005; From out of the basement,
a man doth emerge,
sweat on his brow,
for Efron the urge.

Batterypowered7 posted:

* does four sets of standing calf raises a week and nothing else * "Why aren't my calves getting any bigger?!"

weightlifting categorically cannot make your calves bigger

the only way to get big calves is to be fat for like 30 years

# ? May 25, 2024 00:00

doverhog: May 31, 2013; Defender of democracy and human rights 🇺🇦

I've been doing bicep curls for the first time, after turning 40, and it feels like it is having some effect.

I only do it now because it's a thing you can do quickly and without being drenched in sweat while at work, unlike volume squats or kb swings.

*volume squat means with bodyweight, or goblet, hundreds of reps

doverhog fucked around with this message at 04:32 on May 25, 2024

# ? May 25, 2024 04:26

Batterypowered7: Aug 8, 2009; The mist that chills you keeps me warm.

crackhaed posted:

weightlifting categorically cannot make your calves bigger

the only way to get big calves is to be fat for like 30 years

What if fifth set?

# ? May 25, 2024 04:36

doverhog: May 31, 2013; Defender of democracy and human rights 🇺🇦

Have to say though, weirdly, it's my forearms that have gotten sore, not biceps. Not sure if sore is the right word, there's pain and feeling of "tightness". Currently I assume it's because curls are hitting that muscle in a way that nothing I did before did.

# ? May 25, 2024 06:28

TenementFunster: Feb 20, 2003; Can't post for 29 minutes!

doverhog posted:

Have to say though, weirdly, it's my forearms that have gotten sore, not biceps. Not sure if sore is the right word, there's pain and feeling of "tightness". Currently I assume it's because curls are hitting that muscle in a way that nothing I did before did.

skill issue

lift heavier!

# ? May 25, 2024 06:32

doverhog: May 31, 2013; Defender of democracy and human rights 🇺🇦

I'm working on it. :coolfish:

# ? May 25, 2024 07:24

Batterypowered7: Aug 8, 2009; The mist that chills you keeps me warm.

Deformed Church posted:

Had a number 2 mishap in the gym, won't let me cancel.

code:

So last weekend when powerlifting, I unfortunately had some poo poo come out. 
It was noticeable in smell and sight to a number of other horrified gym goers. I managed 
to use my gym towel and lots of cleaning products to deep clean as fast as I could but I 
was being watched and talked about the whole time. This has been the most embarrassing 
moment of my life.

I've emailed them and told them I want to cancel my contract as I dont want to show my face 
in the gym, let alone my suburb for a decade. They are refusing to let me cancel, saying that's 
not a valid reason in the terms and I'm welcome to use other locations.

Surely there should be some form of ethics that allows some leway in cases like this? 
Any advice please.

From r/AusLegal (by way of BOLA)

Batterypowered7 fucked around with this message at 21:54 on May 25, 2024

# ? May 25, 2024 17:29

Chief McHeath: Apr 23, 2002; Can't post for 8 hours!

not to brag but my new gym has a GHR and a reverse hyper

# ? May 27, 2024 05:58

Doc Hawkins: Jun 15, 2010; Dashing? But I'm not even moving!

throw in some hip thrusts and you can hit those glutes from every angle

yeah i know what i said

# ? May 27, 2024 15:42

Mozi: Apr 4, 2004; Forms change so fast
Time is moving past
Memory is smoke
Gonna get wider when I die; Nap Ghost

glutewise i've been doing reverse lunges off of a rubber block for kind of a stepdown sort of thing and it seems pretty good. kind of like a glute version of doing BSS for quads

# ? May 27, 2024 15:54

Chief McHeath: Apr 23, 2002; Can't post for 8 hours!

Doc Hawkins posted:

throw in some hip thrusts and you can hit those glutes from every angle

yeah i know what i said

it has a plate loaded and a pin selected hip thrust machine and a hip thrust bench if you wanna drag over a barbell too lol

too much rear end

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# ? May 31, 2024 04:18

Batterypowered7: Aug 8, 2009; The mist that chills you keeps me warm.

Chief McHeath posted:

it has a plate loaded and a pin selected hip thrust machine and a hip thrust bench if you wanna drag over a barbell too lol

too much rear end

Get out

# ? May 27, 2024 16:34

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