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Father Wendigo
Sep 28, 2005
This is, sadly, more important to me than bettering myself.

Zark the Damned posted:

Looks like Petersen Games have resolved whatever issue they had with the new company and their Discord server is now back to being the official one instead of Link's playground. The channels are being restored and maybe there will be some proper oversight coming.

Still no reveal of the mysterious benefactor?

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Zark the Damned
Mar 9, 2013

Nah no news on that yet, still seems to be 'you'll find out when the mysterious package arrives'

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

Father Wendigo posted:

Still no reveal of the mysterious benefactor?

No, but there's a newcomer who just got admin on the Discord who is not the benefactor. (As in, their handle is literally Not The Benefactor.)

Subjunctive
Sep 12, 2006

✨sparkle and shine✨

That’s just what the benefactor would choose!

Tsietisin
Jul 2, 2004

Time passes quickly on the weekend.

CODChimera posted:

I was just going to point that out, that is not a normal kickstarter comment page, most of them read like a sales pitch and they all sound really similar

Although there are more comments now, mostly about the recent update that they have restricted to backers only which would seem to suggest that Kickstarter are looking to take down the campaign.

Bottom Liner
Feb 15, 2006


a specific vein of lasagna

Tsietisin posted:

Although there are more comments now, mostly about the recent update that they have restricted to backers only which would seem to suggest that Kickstarter are looking to take down the campaign.

Hasn't KS always been back only for comments?

But god I hope KS does pull the plug on this poo poo. They're insufferable smugness needs to be kicked in.

That Old Tree
Jun 24, 2012

nah


Bottom Liner posted:

Hasn't KS always been back only for comments?

But god I hope KS does pull the plug on this poo poo. They're insufferable smugness needs to be kicked in.

https://twitter.com/kaitave_/status/1787985296061255904?t=1jEEJfd6JmiU3bKqTbW8hg&s=19

https://twitter.com/kaitave_/status/1787987161767354505?t=oDoayeGdPUNe2rxKN8UbqQ&s=19

l, and furthermore, mfao

Kai Tave
Jul 2, 2012
Fallen Rib
"RADICAL TRANSPARENCY" followed by "this update is for backers only" is extremely funny, I'll give them that.

CODChimera
Jan 29, 2009

on one hand im glad they're being shut down but on the other we won't get to witness the trainwreck

Kai Tave
Jul 2, 2012
Fallen Rib
They're already pivoting to "we're gonna stand up to this tyranny by establishing our project elsewhere, join our discord for more details!" so it's not like this has really put an end to things, I'm sure we'll be hearing about this in a year or so after the Indiegogo campaign.

Bottom Liner
Feb 15, 2006


a specific vein of lasagna
lol dumbshits, if you had that kind of loyal following eager to throw that much money at your product you wouldn't be using crowdfunding, you'd have huge distribution deals

Mors Rattus
Oct 25, 2007

FATAL & Friends
Walls of Text
#1 Builder
2014-2018

Kai Tave posted:

They're already pivoting to "we're gonna stand up to this tyranny by establishing our project elsewhere, join our discord for more details!" so it's not like this has really put an end to things, I'm sure we'll be hearing about this in a year or so after the Indiegogo campaign.

Good ol’ flexible funding

TheDiceBagLady
Aug 2, 2015

Annie, Owner of Bad Squiddo Games. No longer a Garbage Dick. Buy my things, they're great!
It's so weird, where did all the mega fans come from?

StarkRavingMad
Sep 27, 2001


Yams Fan
Oath is going to have a kickstarter for an expansion going live later this month. Here's Cole Wehrle's first designer diary about it: https://boardgamegeek.com/thread/3297595/designer-diary-1-what-s-all-this-then

Kai Tave
Jul 2, 2012
Fallen Rib

TheDiceBagLady posted:

It's so weird, where did all the mega fans come from?

Two things:

1). The creators' previous projects have been crypto and NFT schemes, which are the perfect place for rounding up dumb suckers with more money than sense. It's unsurprising that a game all but billing itself as a hot investment you should get in on the ground floor of now now now (we will NEVER reprint these cards!!! You can get your own exclusive IP rights to characters!!!) that's slathered in the latest genAI bullshit would attract similar diehard dumbasses.

2). That said, there's a lot to suggest that a bunch of the backers are actually just multiple accounts being used to juice the numbers, including some of the creators involved just directly funding it as well. The reasons for doing this can range from making the project look more successful than it actually is to pull in more backers via a hype train to actual literal money laundering. The comments section is like half love-bombing that sounds like people reading off a script and half some guy named Anthony Pavelich who's replying to everyone who posts anything even vaguely skeptical with some of the worst attempts to "own them" I've ever read.

Also this confirms that the reason the project is being shut down, per Kickstarter, is the inclusion of NFTs: https://boardgamewire.com/index.php...n-over-nft-use/

Bobfly
Apr 22, 2007
EGADS!

StarkRavingMad posted:

Oath is going to have a kickstarter for an expansion going live later this month. Here's Cole Wehrle's first designer diary about it: https://boardgamegeek.com/thread/3297595/designer-diary-1-what-s-all-this-then

I love this diary. What a thoughtful man, and how balanced he is in the measure of his own work.
I, too, will definitely back this expansion despite never having gotten the chance to play the original. I'm just madly in love with the concept.

Z the IVth
Jan 28, 2009

The trouble with your "expendable machines"
Fun Shoe

Kai Tave posted:

Two things:

1). The creators' previous projects have been crypto and NFT schemes, which are the perfect place for rounding up dumb suckers with more money than sense. It's unsurprising that a game all but billing itself as a hot investment you should get in on the ground floor of now now now (we will NEVER reprint these cards!!! You can get your own exclusive IP rights to characters!!!) that's slathered in the latest genAI bullshit would attract similar diehard dumbasses.

2). That said, there's a lot to suggest that a bunch of the backers are actually just multiple accounts being used to juice the numbers, including some of the creators involved just directly funding it as well. The reasons for doing this can range from making the project look more successful than it actually is to pull in more backers via a hype train to actual literal money laundering. The comments section is like half love-bombing that sounds like people reading off a script and half some guy named Anthony Pavelich who's replying to everyone who posts anything even vaguely skeptical with some of the worst attempts to "own them" I've ever read.

Also this confirms that the reason the project is being shut down, per Kickstarter, is the inclusion of NFTs: https://boardgamewire.com/index.php...n-over-nft-use/

Speaking of money laundering is Kickstarter bound by the usual KYC rules with regards to backers or is literally the wild wild west out there?

Subjunctive
Sep 12, 2006

✨sparkle and shine✨

There’s no KYC for backers, like there’s no KYC for buyers on Amazon or DTRPG.

Z the IVth
Jan 28, 2009

The trouble with your "expendable machines"
Fun Shoe
Edit - NM, kickstarter does have anti-money laundering systems in place.

Edit 2 - VVV apparently they have anti-fraud type things in place. Maybe that's what tripped and caused the project to be canned rather than the announced reasons of NFTs.

Z the IVth fucked around with this message at 13:11 on May 9, 2024

Subjunctive
Sep 12, 2006

✨sparkle and shine✨

Yes, which is exactly why people are saying that it’s what’s happening here…

JMBosch
May 28, 2006

You're dead.
That's your greatest weapon.
EDIT: Already stated.

StarkRavingMad
Sep 27, 2001


Yams Fan

Bobfly posted:

I love this diary. What a thoughtful man, and how balanced he is in the measure of his own work.
I, too, will definitely back this expansion despite never having gotten the chance to play the original. I'm just madly in love with the concept.

Yeah, he's always like that. I did playtesting for John Company 2d edition on his discord and he's really thoughtful in the way he approaches game design, historical concepts, and player feedback.

As an example, his first design diary when he started working on JoCo: https://boardgamegeek.com/thread/2622692/designer-diary-1-going-into-empire

Wehrle's just a really interesting dude to me, in part because of how transparent and open he is about his thoughts and where his designs come from.

Screaming_Gremlin
Dec 26, 2005

Look at him. Dude's a stone-cold badass.
I saw on Reddit that CMON announced a new expansion (and reprinting) of Dune: War for Arrakis. https://gamefound.com/en/projects/cmon/dune-desert-war

Anyone have any experience with this? I normally couldn't care less about CMON and their figure fests, but I admit I heard a lot of really positive comparisons to this game, comparing it to War of the Ring. I do have a friend who did the KS for the original, but they messed up his box and he was missing a tray of essential figures so we haven't been able to play. And they pretty much send him weekly emails saying they are working on it, but don't have the replacement yet...

dwarf74
Sep 2, 2012



Buglord
The Kickstarter for Rove just launched. It's basically from the team that brought you Crimson Scales - but it's a whole new campaign game. I've been watching it for a long time since a lot of my Frosthaven playtest buddies are running it.

So if you want a(nother) co-op fantasy game, it looks pretty slick.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/addaxgames/rove

Screaming_Gremlin
Dec 26, 2005

Look at him. Dude's a stone-cold badass.

dwarf74 posted:

The Kickstarter for Rove just launched. It's basically from the team that brought you Crimson Scales - but it's a whole new campaign game. I've been watching it for a long time since a lot of my Frosthaven playtest buddies are running it.

So if you want a(nother) co-op fantasy game, it looks pretty slick.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/addaxgames/rove

Will admit I was turned off a bit when the banner picture showed you could be a Navi, the Prince of Persia, or Rocket Racoon. Obviously not commentary of the actual game design (or really, even the rest of the art).

Screaming_Gremlin fucked around with this message at 20:40 on May 14, 2024

That Italian Guy
Jul 25, 2012

We need the equivalent of the shrimp = small pastry avatar, but for ambulances and their mysteries now.

dwarf74 posted:

The Kickstarter for Rove just launched. It's basically from the team that brought you Crimson Scales - but it's a whole new campaign game. I've been watching it for a long time since a lot of my Frosthaven playtest buddies are running it.

So if you want a(nother) co-op fantasy game, it looks pretty slick.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/addaxgames/rove
I saw there is a demo on TTS...have you had a go? It visually looks quite close to FH, but the mechanics themselves seem to be different enough.

EDIT: there is a preview play video here if anyone is interested.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gY83fRxZ3U

dwarf74
Sep 2, 2012



Buglord

That Italian Guy posted:

I saw there is a demo on TTS...have you had a go? It visually looks quite close to FH, but the mechanics themselves seem to be different enough.

EDIT: there is a preview play video here if anyone is interested.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gY83fRxZ3U
Yes but the version I played was way early in development and not too similar to what's here now.

TheComicFiend
Oct 4, 2013

Let's Survive
Been working on this idea with my creative partner for a year+ and I'm trying to find different places to show it off.
Basically it's rock-paper-scissors with a little more strategy. If you're familiar with Kaiji: Ultimate Survivor, we kinda accidentally combined Restricted RPS with Emperor Card.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/hyperheartcom/gotchacards

The core game is designed for 2 players.


To win, you must earn points by defeating your opponent's cards and putting them in your victory pile. Generally speaking, each card is worth one point.
Both players take turns placing cards face down, then reveal them all at once and evaluate them each by lane.

+ If your card beats your opponent's card, you've won this battle. Take both cards and place them in your victory pile
+ If your card is unopposed, this counts as a "win". Take your card and place it in the victory pile.
+ If both cards tie, place them in the trash area

Whoever has the most points based in their victory pile by the end of 3 turns wins the round, and players play a best-of-3 for a full game.

I've put together full instructions on gameplay and setup here, as well as the 2-4 player party mode:
https://gotcha-cards.com/howto


The goal of this project was to get as far as we could on our own, and get it into a state where we could actually ship decks out within the same year. No additional development time is needed, just need to figure out how to get the word out and place our first big order.

I'd say that response from playtesting with friends and strangers (when given the opportunity) has been positive, and many of those people have already backed the project. I'm working with local card/game shops to do demo events but getting the word out online has been kind of tough, and if anybody has any tips on how to get strangers online interested I'd really appreciate it.

If y'all have any questions, or if there's stuff that isn't clear I'm happy to answer them.

EDIT:
forgot to add this, but also I made this animation to try and hype up the game
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pb6rF_SwYiM

TheComicFiend fucked around with this message at 16:23 on May 15, 2024

Tsietisin
Jul 2, 2004

Time passes quickly on the weekend.

They're baaaaaaaaaaaack.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/wondersccg/wonders-of-the-first-ccg

Hmmm, they seem to have gone for a short campaign time. I wonder why they might have done that /s

ilmucche
Mar 16, 2016

What did you say the strategy was?
Why do the playmats have rarities

Why do some of the team pictures look ai generated

Invalid Validation
Jan 13, 2008




All in is only $8k, what a steal.

Subjunctive
Sep 12, 2006

✨sparkle and shine✨

yeah, but “all-in” here is like 14,000 cards

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

Subjunctive posted:

yeah, but “all-in” here is like 14,000 cards

Which even if they existed would be 95% worthless trash.

Oh, and they intend to go from fundraising to full production and distribution in five months. Good loving luck with that.

Dawgstar
Jul 15, 2017

Such high fantasy names as Emma "Fixem" Shockbite.

Archduke Frantz Fanon
Sep 7, 2004

Tsietisin posted:

They're baaaaaaaaaaaack.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/wondersccg/wonders-of-the-first-ccg

Hmmm, they seem to have gone for a short campaign time. I wonder why they might have done that /s

quote:

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We own or have a full license to all images referenced in our AI-assisted image creation processes. We were not involved in the development of any of the AI enabled tools used in this project. Please reference each of the AI tools we’ve mentioned for further details on their business practices.

so, no

Bottom Liner
Feb 15, 2006


a specific vein of lasagna

ilmucche posted:

Why do the playmats have rarities

Why do some of the team pictures look ai generated

1: scam

2: they are

The Eyes Have It
Feb 10, 2008

Third Eye Sees All
...snookums
I looked up AZADI out of curiosity because I recently broke SHASN out again. I wondered what had happened to it. It's not shipped yet, but the good news is that it hasn't completely dropped off the face of the earth either. I guess they nailed down shipping and are about to charge people's cards.

Father Wendigo
Sep 28, 2005
This is, sadly, more important to me than bettering myself.

If you also follow the Fatal & Friends thread, then you may already be acquainted with CMON'S latest minis-filled crowdsourced offering. Even if you aren't, you'll know you're in for something special when one of the boss encounters for your endless horde tower defense is a woman with half a dozen children.

Father Wendigo fucked around with this message at 23:14 on May 23, 2024

smug jeebus
Oct 26, 2008
Looks reminiscient of that Hate game and it's hyper-cringey trailer

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IncredibleIgloo
Feb 17, 2011





Here is kind of an odd question; does anyone else find this particular crowdfunded game to be really in poor taste?

https://gamefound.com/en/projects/meeple-pug/dark-blood#/section/component-analysis-44466

A Youtube guy I have mixed feelings about came on due to autoplay while I was painting and it was not convenient to change off the video and he was talking about this campaign and how "cool" the gimmick was, and when I looked up to see the gimmick, it is that the game comes with a miniature tree/gallows things with little nooses that you hang the peasant minis with? It just seemed really, really crass and in bad taste to me, but I am wondering if I am just being overly sensitive to this?

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