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F_Shit_Fitzgerald posted:This is one thing I dislike about TNG. There's a sense, at least in the early episodes, that they start drilling advanced math and science into kids' heads from a very young age. There are probably some benefits to that, but they don't let kids be kids. Your average nine year old doesn't need to be concerned with integration and derivatives, but cartoons, recess, and long division. Maybe the TNG writers were the kind of kids who were smart in school. The Martin Prince type.
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so I could say that I finally figured out what this god damned cube is doing. Get well Lowtax.
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yeah actually they will posted:Trip got pregnant "This is a game we play. Perhaps it will help our species better understand one another." *revvs up the dildo machine*
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vermin posted:"This is a game we play. Perhaps it will help our species better understand one another." Yeah but more like revs up the inseminator2000
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F_Shit_Fitzgerald posted:This is one thing I dislike about TNG. There's a sense, at least in the early episodes, that they start drilling advanced math and science into kids' heads from a very young age. There are probably some benefits to that, but they don't let kids be kids. Your average nine year old doesn't need to be concerned with integration and derivatives, but cartoons, recess, and long division. Differential calculus is easier than long division IMO.
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If you make the assumption that basic arithmetic will be handled by the computer and skip multiplication tables and whatever you could start algebra much earlier. If you introduced kids to the modes of thought that enable symbolic reasoning starting in preschool I could maybe see simple calculus showing up in middle school. Whether this is a good idea or not is another question entirely
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The Greatest Gen are doing Sub Rosa tomorrow - they're going to wish they saved those vetos, ohhh boy.
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spincube posted:Maybe the TNG writers were the kind of kids who were smart in school. The Martin Prince type. If that were true there would be actual science in episodes. Not made up bullshit.
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cheetah7071 posted:I don't find it so implausible that our imperfect meat brains have some sort of undiscovered backdoor that you can use to impart knowledge rapidly, and that the utopian society in star trek uses it to teach rather than to dispense advertising/propaganda You don't even really need a backdoor or anything. Kids today already learn way, way more at a much younger age than kids did fifty or a hundred years ago, and that's even with highly imperfect educational systems like what we have in the US. It's pretty easy to imagine that you can teach a lot more when you've got a society that strongly values education for its own sake rather than as a means to an end. The complete lack of childhood poverty probably helps quite a bit too.
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Watching The Wounded. Picard mentions the Stargazer, I think I've heard that name before.
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"Maybe I'll have something special for you tonight too" is this the most brazen sexual reference in the series or am I misunderstanding
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I wonder if this episode was directly aimed at revving up for DS9 or if the Cardassians were just an alien of the week that the writers liked and decided to keep using
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Jeb! Repetition posted:Whoa the Cardassians forced the Enterprise to fight them just as a macho greeting? The Cardies are kind of assholes (Macet is cool tho)
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Intro thought: I was gonna make drinking prune juice as I watch a tradition but the effect it had on my gastrointestinal system was too strong.
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cheetah7071 posted:I wonder if this episode was directly aimed at revving up for DS9 or if the Cardassians were just an alien of the week that the writers liked and decided to keep using
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This admiral Picard's talking to is the first one I can remember that doesn't seem corrupt.
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cheetah7071 posted:I wonder if this episode was directly aimed at revving up for DS9 or if the Cardassians were just an alien of the week that the writers liked and decided to keep using Director Chip Chalmers posted:We introduced a new enemy that's finally able to speak on the level of Picard. They're not grunting, they're not giggling, they're not mutes or all-knowing entities. Here are the Cardassians who also graduated first in their class and they're able to carry on highly intelligent conversations with Picard, but they're sinister as hell. EDIT - Star Trek: Deep Space Nine - The Official Poster Magazine, No. 4 disagrees with me, so I stand corrected. After The War fucked around with this message at 23:23 on Aug 22, 2017 |
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Paradoxish posted:The Cardies are kind of assholes (Macet is cool tho) The fact that almost the entirety of Patrick Stewart/Marc Alaimo interaction is in this single episode fills me with sadness. Good thing he's about to get his own series, "Star Trek: Terok Nor!"
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Jeb! Repetition posted:Intro thought: I was gonna make drinking prune juice as I watch a tradition but the effect it had on my gastrointestinal system was too strong. loving lmao A warrior's drink indeed.
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Were the Cardassians the start of the trend of aliens having BDSM aesthetics that later reached a crescendo in Farscape
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Jeb! Repetition posted:Watching The Wounded. Picard mentions the Stargazer, I think I've heard that name before. Stargazer was the ship that Picard commanded (and lost) prior to commanding Enterprise.
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Jeb! Repetition posted:Watching The Wounded. Picard mentions the Stargazer, I think I've heard that name before. There was a crappy season 1 episode which involved Picard's service on the ship and a kerfuffle with Ferengi. cheetah7071 posted:I wonder if this episode was directly aimed at revving up for DS9 or if the Cardassians were just an alien of the week that the writers liked and decided to keep using For "The Wounded" no, they were just aliens of the week and DS9 was a couple years off. In early drafts of "Ensign Ro" it was still the Romulans who had conquered Bajor and Berman (iirc) figured they should use Cardassians instead.
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Seeing the Cardassians without their headgear now and the makeup department really earned their paychecks.
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I wonder if "The Wounded" refers to O'Brien because of his grudge about that raid Maxwell was involved in
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Jeb! Repetition posted:Were the Cardassians the start of the trend of aliens having BDSM aesthetics that later reached a crescendo in Farscape Thankfully, the weird bondage masks Cardassians wore in this episode never appear again. Also the muttonchops.
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I always have to remember, with Star Trek, the answer is always "they were never thinking ahead, ever." DS9's storyline was the fantastic result of a thousand various rear end-pulls.
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I kind of wish the Cardassian and O'Brien were able to get really emotional while talking about this, just break down, because that's what I'd probably do in the situation
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CaveGrinch posted:I don't think either Greatest Generation or Next Conversation (I prefer the latter honestly) should get to skip *any* episode. The best thing is Next Conversation HAVING to slog through the first two seasons... bad episodes lead to much funnier podcasts. This is kind of a weird complaint since Greatest Gen blew away all their vetoes, didn't skip anything, and already announced that they aren't doing vetoes for DS9 since neither of them have seen every episode. Paradoxish fucked around with this message at 23:44 on Aug 22, 2017 |
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The writing is amazing, Maxwell is a perfect hawk right down to taking military action because of weapons that weren't there
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Jeb! Repetition posted:The writing is amazing, Maxwell is a perfect hawk right down to taking military action because of weapons that weren't there This episode aired a few days after Desert Storm, too.
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Nice bit of ambiguity at the end there with the reveal that the supply ships really did have weapons and you wonder whether how history really will look at Picard just like Maxwell said. What an awesome episode.
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